The Questions "Most Hardcore Believers" Cant Answer

Originally posted by skept!cal
extravagant claim....

Without having read the whole thread yet, please answer me... what is so extravagant about the claim of alien life in comparison to many other sorts of claims made on this site? If you ask me, the claim that an shadow government is conducting genetic tests on living breathing human beeings is at least, if not an more extravagant claim, then the claim that there is alien life somewhere else out there - and in this statement I'm just taking the fact of alien life elsewhere in consideration, not whether or not our gov. is working with them or any other claims like that.

This is how I think of things such as this. I never truly say to myself that aliens exist. Now this is only aliens, because UFOs dont necesarily have to be funky looking alien spacecrafts with little 3 foot greys inside with beady eyes.

I do however, leave a space open in my mind for any knowledge pertaining to this situation. The only evidence we can get is through planetary photos, our brain, our eyes, and pictures.


To say that there are aliens in the universe is very blunt. But I would say that there is a posibility for alien life in the universe, as it is so big.

Im the kind of a person that unless I experience it and have fullproof evidence of anything like that then I would not even think about evidence. Just because you saw a UFO doesnt mean it was an alien space ship. It could have been a highly secretive military jet, a bird, a flying bigfoot , or craft of some kind. Yes the government does have secrets. If we didnt, then our country would be screwed. Information on new jets would be stolen and incorporated. More countries would start to use our ideas for their own projects.

This is just a touchy subject, because there are alot of posibilities. Just because you filmed an alien creature, or a supposed autopsy of an alien being, doesnt mean it is always evidence.

Evidence means something that can prove or disprove something, to make something clear. Basically clear things up.

There are alot of liars, and hoaxers out there with the supposed evidence, but all it tends to be is just a picture of a fake ufo or a really good costume.

reply to post by TopSecretArea


Well first and foremost i think the whole shadow government thing is a complete farse....If you would have read the thread i stated that people w/ repeat appearances simply just dont want to give out any kind of evidence at all of their claims...a simple photograph, video tape, SOMETHING to support there EXTRAVAGANT claims of there visits...thats all...nothing more nothing less...and remember im talking of repeat offenders i.e. ppl that claim to be visted on a regular basis...hopefully that clears up my extravagant claims statement...obviously im not as i said in the opening comments im not claiming either side of the fence at this point...im not saying i completely believe or disbelieve the phenomena...im just here to simply incite conversation about the subject....I think its crucial that believers and non believers and even Skeptics to be able to come together to at least share our opinions and comments....It will make us all better in the long run

Good Day
Skept!cal

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A highly insightful post...id say me and you definitley share the same opinions..star for ya buddy...well said


Skept!cal

Originally posted by Fastwalker81
Are you talking about UFO's, aliens or both? Because to say there is no evidence for UFO's is being in complete denial.

Aliens is a different matter. The evidence is lacking and pretty sketchy at best. And when evidence is presented it is quickly dismissed as fake. So then the question arises: When is there sufficient evidence?

Futhermore most skeptics talk of extravagant/extraordinary claims. We as humans being alone in this vast universe would be extraordinary, not the other way around.

I couldn't agree more

I agree where is the proof ?
63 % of Britons now believe - but there is no proof.

Let's not just stop at UFO's and Aliens how about GOD and Jesus where is the proof - I think we are all believers and dis-believers rolled together
You maybe a believer in one thing and a dis-believer in another but ultimatley we have no proof for either.

Fact 6 1/2 billion people believe with no proof and 6 1/2 billion dis-believe with no proof just depends on what you want to believe.

One point I would like to make - The Intelligent people I have came across believe in Aliens more than God..which is understandable ..I have found this to be true .

Delete this please, responded to wrong thread.

*slaps self in face*

[edit on 1-8-2008 by Hamlin]