The True Barack Obama Revealed.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by rjmelter
The Soldier who was interviewed saying Obama had dones these things Where is his proof. Last of of all note his color.

You just lost all credibility with me. Sorry.

If you google this mess you'll find the truth, Or you can keep on believing CPL Jeffreys, even though he admitted he lied.

thanks for shining heretic


i dont think this wil hurt obama one bit

in my mind the president has been chosen by those who deem it

if anything this is just more campaign wars

Originally posted by jetxnet
And BH, this is already causing a stir and to further avoid any leakage the story was obviously make-shifted to be in a more neutral light.

It is drawing too much attention so has to be squleched. The DoD does this all the time.

The soldier's family was probably get a 100 phone calls and e-mails an hour from Obama supporters much like yourself to try and discredit him.



[edit on 28-7-2008 by jetxnet]

Anyone with half a brain know this guy got shut up by the DOD, and his family probably got seriously harrassed by Obama supporters like you said. It was intended for his family only, so why would he lie?

Obama supporters did the same thing to Larry Sinclair by having him arrested at his press conference. There was also the Obama supporter who threatened a man and his wife over his anti-Obama bumper sticker in Texas. they'll go to any lengths to silence opposition..

Originally posted by rjmelter
As the letter falls apart it must be one of the most significant emails to go out into the Mass Media.

It's called desperate GOP tactics.

And once again... its just one man.. an email for his family.. So why is it getting soo much attention.

See above.

I have no interest in quoting you. Thanks anyway. But if the guy sent the email to his family, it's STILL a lie. He himself said it was inaccurate, It didn't happen. He wasn't part of a group who got ignored, he made it up!

He says this letter was meant for his FAMILY. How many family members sign their names like this?

In service,
CPT Jeffrey S. Porter
Battle Captain
TF Wasatch
American Soldier

Yeah, right...

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I SUGGEST you stay on topic.

That said.

All emails from Soliders are posted like that. That is how it comes from their Military Email accounts. I know because I served. Have a nice day.

Originally posted by rjmelter
I personally love the way Benevolent comes in and says

You just lost all credibility with me. So what are you saying im a racist now you saying that all indirectly for all other viewers. Ok so here this is. I have 4 people i hang out with every other day. 1 of them is black. I even eat dinner with his family... am i racist ...nope. DO i have the right to make a point and an oppinion... yep.

So dont come in this post with your My oppinion will shape this thread attiude. It will take more facts for you to post to keep the truth from being uncovered good sir.

Here is a thumbs down for you because that is my oppinion

Read the Race part because you are judging me... but i would die an innocent death because you are wrong

[edit on 28-7-2008 by rjmelter]

Interesting. This is shown to be false and there is still discussion about this.

Is believing a comfortable lie preferable to facing the truth?

That''s original btw. Googled it.

No doubt and a talk radio host (don't remember his name) said he hasn't seen anything like it with any election. He is constantly getting his life threatened and his family too for things he says on his show that are anti-Obama. He even has tapes of some these irate callers making threats.

Yeah, the DoD had to do something for the soldiers family. I'm sure the soldier was getting calls over there in Afghanistan too.

There is a war going on, you have to have the soldier's mind on what he is going to be doing next, not worrying about his family.

[edit on 28-7-2008 by jetxnet]

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In the sport of debate Intrepid.

Do you belieive everything that is in the history books? Do you believe the words that come out of everyones Mouth? I study psychology and when they look to their left I catch them in their lies and make them anwser for it. The way the media is covering this makes it even more sketch IMHO.

Canada is Socialist so most of them are all for Obama with a big 'O'. Obama goes beyond Socialism right into Communism though, but they don't seem to care. Obama shoud just run for Canada's prime minister and leave us alone. Let them have him.

I don't Think I would want to meet any body that is preemptively attacking a third world nation and thought he some how was defending freedom in America
I would think he was a kook

But then again you can vote for Mcain he supports the troops so much he wants to send you into Iran
where you are certain not come out of .
Bomb bomb bomb Iran Mcain
loves you and wants you to know if he is president you will get to lay in the sun
on the white sands of Iran for an eternity

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A couple issues with this.


1. Just because your people are "Good folks" doesn't mean they don't get duped. I can't tell you the amount of emails I get from "Good folks" who pass on emails about needles in gas pumps etc.

2. Just because the commanding officer had a "admirals column" set up to greet the Senator, doesn't mean that his aides understood this and that he was to go through the receiving line. I've seen tons of Admirals visiting ships or bases by-pass this as well, just because it wasn't accounted for when they landed.

3. Just because someone puts a name on the bottom of a letter doesn't make it valid. As a matter of fact, it's the oldest trick in the book. Most people won't try to validate the letter if there is a relaistic sounding name and rank attached to it.

4. What you have here is simply an email from an unvalidated source.

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This is unreal. If you spent half the time you are spending bashing Obama actually asking questions of our current administration then maybe something productive would get done. Write a letter if you are so concerned.

If you are so concerned about the troops getting their "fair time", why don;t you ask why VA benefits SUCK, or how 80% or more of returning soldiers are suffering PTSD and have no legitimate health care system to help them when they return, or why these troops have to arm their own vehicles? THAT, my friend, is being disingenuous when you actually HAVE the means to make things better.

Why aren't you? Because you will post something online that is FALSE, pretending that it "came from a friend" in order to smear a candidate!

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The letter has been validated. Please read all posts and respond.

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I guess with McCain you get to lay on the white sands of Iran for eternity or with Obama you can lie in the sands of Afghanistan forever. Pick your poison!

Get ready RJ, now you are going to get personal attacks and topic deflection to the big-bad evil Bush administration for invading Saddam's poor little 'ole Iraq by Obamatrons.

It's the same pattern every time. No facts are presented of course, just pure emotion.

This letter is not "TRUE" as you have attempted to edit your post to make it sound.


It is a fraud...


richmonddemocrat.blogspot.com...

And now you know why the DoD created the neutral context to stop harrassment of this soldier and his family.

The Obamatrons on ATS are showing you just a tiny sample of what this soldier and his family have been getting harrassed with.

[edit on 28-7-2008 by jetxnet]

Originally posted by jetxnet
Get ready RJ, now you are going to get personal attacks and topic deflection to the big-bad evil Bush administration for invading Saddam's poor little 'ole Iraq by Obamatrons.

It's the same pattern every time. No facts are presented of course, just pure emotion.

No facts? As if the letter he posted in the OP was a fact?


Puhlease. The FACT is, this letter is a FRAUD.

End of story, no deflection, no mention of B*SH. Simple story fabrication, and the OP continues to defend it.

It's one thing to attack the candidate you don't like. It's a complete other to continue to defend an indefensible letter which is being used to attack someone.

This e-mail has already come up before in another thread.

Lying Liars & the OBAMA EMAIL-FRAUD

As well as in another thread, where I responded in this post that includes more links including a response from Obama on Fight the Smears, basically saying the same thing that is is not true.

Originally posted by rjmelter
reply to post by Quazga

 

The letter has been validated. Please read all posts and respond.

Please show me where this letter has been validated?


According to the ARMY TIMES it is "facutally incorrect"

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I currently hold a title as a veteran upon leaving Military Service. I understand greatly how veterans are treated. I also undertand what is going on with soldiers returning home.

There are a few things about this war that need addressing yes... such that.

We are fighting over oil but currentl have the understanding to produce clean running cars... but we dont? Why? Because half of the representative of the U.S. are bought and paid for by soldiers who have saved them the right to "buy"(steal) oil from these people. While our government does so much evil it also does so much good. A good portion of the people in Iraq have so much going against them. THe conditions heat... I would be paranoid too if I lived in a desert and was always being tormented by coniditions such that they face. However I would not turn to blowing people up in the name of a religion that was created to control mankind. Christians have smeared the Name of Jesus for their own purpose. Jesus would back very few of the people calling themselves Christians today... THE PROBLEM I HAVE. Is that instead of fixing the system we continue to support it with a broken system and a paid for senator.

ITS TIME AMERICA WAKES UP- And quits thinking they know where i come from . I agree with some of you Supporters of Obama... but obama mccain and all of them are fake. They are just the representation of a broken system and all of you are playing games voting them into office so they can stick it in your rears... I dont understand any of you.