Thought Voices - Potentially Losing My Mind

reply to post by QueenofWeird


I don't think I'm being contacted by telepathy either, it just feels like it did, or felt that when I was younger. It just seems to be some strange coincidences co-mingled with having a bad experience with smoking a lot and being into the occult when I was a teenager.

i used to 'hear voices'
for three months, back in 95, oct 95 till the beginning of 06...
this three month period will be with me forever, the memories of what i heard still come at me today...

i was on meds for about 9 years, and then had success with vitamins, now, no meds, just the vitamins, and the belief i am ok despite being somewhat crazy....

i came across this blog in my online search for answers.... the kundalini awakening could be one description of what i went thru, btw, there are some drugs that can 'wake up the kundalini'.... almost like kick start the process, rather then doing it the right way with meditation etc, see the site for more info

then after actually describing the first night's events, that started the whole three month period, to a fellow out of california, (name escapes me atm, might come back later)... this guy is a counsellor of sorts, for people who have had encounters with et's, he prefers encounter, then abduction

this fellow told me i was more then likely visited, and well, he wanted money to then 'work' with me, hehehe, besides the money end, i was too concerned he works for tptb,

there are others who claim some et's can visit us in our mind only, as in talk to us telepathically...

but, i will add this about the brain, adrenalin and adrenochrome...

in some people, like myself, the brain cannot metabolize large amounts of adrenalin properly, this excess adrenalin, then ozidises into adrenochrome, which has been shown to have a parylizing affect on the brain/mind, producing hallucinations, bascially, the brain does not operate correctly

this above paragraph, is just a brief description of work done by Dr A Hoffer and more info can be found on this page, much more at that site as well

for anyone hearing voices now, i personally recommend to see a naturopathic doctor, if the voices are too bothersome to live life somewhat ok, but hey, i am not a doctor, go see one if you must

Hey. Take some time and listen "quietly" to yourself. You do not need meds or an "Analyst". I think you will find both those things are the reason you are searching.

Dreams are the introduction to your true self. Voices are everything you have heard and thought. They are also that which guides you (okay in a very extreme way at times-but it appears to me you already know this).

Throughout all this mayhem you will find your own voice. This is what you need to focus on. IF you cannot hear yourself than you cannot hear what is truly in your heart. Hear your own words and do not be afaid of them.

If you fear or doubt your own voice you will be sure to know it is not in yoiur heart.

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Dreams are so amazing. Peaceful places never leave you. Remember those places... They are what what we know and expect to be a part of everyday. You are - therefore you dream...

Here is my take on it (and I have had very similar experiences).

You are not losing your mind, just the opposite, you are finding it!
Everything you see, hear, touch, smell, is really you!

I've heard voices in my head before too. Many different voices actually. At first it was weird, it made me a little bit frightened. But then I started realizing that those voices, whatever they were, were actually revealing a lot about myself.
Even if they sounded threatening they were really helping me out pointing out to feelings, thoughts and emotions I had that I usually ignored or not even noticed.

Do not be afraid. Let it be.
If you fear insanity, then you will really go insane because insanity is all we have.

Being very heavy into esoteric, new age and astrology for over 30 years, I have had many strange experiences. From astral projections to a NDE.
For many years I got caught into the Christ consciousness thought process.
I believed that Christ was just a prophet and we all had to attain and reach a level of Christ consciousness. I thought religion had been tampered with and they were not telling us the whole truth.
Then about 5 years ago I started having blasphemous thoughts against God Jesus, Mary and anything religious. At first it startled me and made me very uncomfortable, but as time went on it got progressively worse and worse until it was filling my head all day long. I thought I was going crazy.
It was as if something had taken over my mind.
Then last June I stumbled on the documentary Bohemian Grove and many other documentaries that made me realized that the world elite were worshiping Lucifer. I thought if the most powerful people on the planet are worshiping Lucifer then he must be real, Then I thought maybe Jesus was real to so I decided to start reading the bible and then weird stuff started happening to me and these orbs and triangles started appearing in my home. I caught them on video and posted the on ATS.
When this thing appeared I wasn't frightened at first since I had been in esoteric subjects and still having one foot in the new age thinking I thought it was a special message to me. Then it started harassing me every morning at 3:00AM. I decided to invoke the name of Jesus Christ and recite scripture and it would STOP immediately. It worked everytime. I did this for months and then the blasphemous thoughts stopped.
I am happy to report that whatever demon was harassing me has stopped bothering me.
They respond to the name of Jesus Christ PERIOD! I saw it and that is my testimony. I have now gone back to my Christian Roots and I am happy and content.

[edit on 15-7-2009 by Wideawake08]

Originally posted by Teleport
I can't remember when this exactly started. But whatever it is it's getting worse and I don't know where to go from here. I am afraid to talk to my friends and family about it because they either won't believe me or just not care for me anymore.

When I was about 8 I had this imaginary friend that would tell me to do certain acts or rituals or else it would hurt me. So I did everything it wanted.

Now 3-4 years ago in my senior year of high school I got loaded up on alcohol and booze and that's where like all this began.

I had smoked pot and had a really bad reaction. I don't know if it was laced or if it was a mix of zoloft with the drugs and booze but I basically started tripping and hallucinating. Then every so often from that day on until the present I have had dissociative feelings where I suddenly feel like I am a robot or in a dream, different place, or not in control. It feels like a flashback. It feels like I'm hallucinating again, only not. Not really.

Then some really weird "explicitly censored* started happening. I don't know if it was a hallucination or what but I started having these things I call "thought voices". Basically they're voices how you hear in your head when you think out loud. Like it doesn't feel as though someone is right there talking to me, but more like the thoughts are telepathically placed in my head. The only problem is I can't differentiate if they are real or not. They are sent by my old imaginary friend I think or what could be multiple entities. I feel like I need to listen to them or else bad things will happen. But here's what made me believe in them more, which I know is only going to make problems worse although I am not suicidal and would not hurt a fly, I am just scared. But what I think will make things worse is that the "thought voices" started giving me information I would have no way of knowing. One time I was on the computer doing some work (and this is when the thought voices seem to come out the most, and under anxiety) and suddenly the voice starts talking to me about some *explicitly censored* movie called Bull Durham or something. I've never even seen the movie and I don't even know why the thought voice would bring it up since I barely remember the name. Anyway it goes on about how Susan Serandon and Kevin Costner are in the movie. I didn't think much about it at the time. But then low and behold for the first time ever I see some movie called Bull Durham come on the tele. So I watch some with my mom and sure enough Susan Serandon and Kevin Costner are in the movie. Prior to this I only heard the name Susan Serandon once and I never even cared for Kevin Costner. I can't emphasize enough how impossible it would be for me to know this information. I never even saw the movie, it was before my time anyway. There's also been a prediction from this imaginary friend which I'm not going to name, for personal reasons. The prediction came and went so it's not like I have anything to prove what is happening to me. Nor does it really matter since either you'll see me as a liar or mentally insane. Either way I get nothing out of it.

So I'm talking about this for the first time ever on this forum wondering what exactly is going on. I realize it's nuts and I'm most likely just crazy. But if it wasn't for the things these thought voices say I would just assume I'm crazy.
The only other reason I think it might be something other than schizophrenia is the voices don't sound like real voices, they sound like thoughts, and I already had a minor experience like this for awhile when I was little. I've suffered from depression and anxiety disorders for a good potion of my life but this is the first time I feel like I am actually losing it. It's really frustrating. I'm not low affect and I can think perfectly fine.

Just wondering what you think? Regardless I am going to tell a psychiatrist about this on Thursday....I just hope I have the balls. I hate being seen as weak.

Dude, this is how I got through two thirds of my schooling, honestly I never did the reading nor the homework, I'd go into class knowing Jack s*** bout thequiz or test that we were about to take...then I'd zone out sort of and the answers just came to me, much in the same way. There is a collective conciousness and we can access it, but usually as we grow older it gets harder to tap into. You might have just triggered a way to access it more prominantly...the native americans are well known to do this by using certain herbs/plants, cactus, etc. Other civilizations also, such as the Greeks, Egyptians, and the Celtics. I seriously think this could be the case for you as you recieved information which you later confirmed to be in fact, true.

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Hello. I tipically think that there are Three main different styles of voices[Thought, Verbal, Prediction voices.]
Also there are what is called enerpathic images. In which I believe they sort of fall under thought Voices reason for that is that they are only an image that didn't happen. Which is one of the worst. I will explain why they are the worst when i get to the explainations as follows. I will write then as they are typed as in the topic which is either a sentence or a paragraph topic.
[Thought, meaning you hear it as if there might be a tele-path thinking it or you might hear it as if someone down the street walking toward you might have said it. you can also have a thought voice of say something that happened at school a kid getting jumped by like 20 people IE you might hear i hope he is going to be alright or i hope they dont hurt him that bad. That would be called an empathy voiced thought.]
[Verbal, voices are when you hear someone say something they didn't say or you hear yourself say something but you actually didn't say it, visea versa. You might hear a voice then see someone say it later or on the spot. Another Verbal Voice would be like say you were thinking of something that you didn't want anyone to hear and you actually accidently said it out loud. That would Accidently Verbal Voiceing.]
[Prediction, Voices are like say (you'll hear in IE.) This guy is going to do something bad. It is only a voice cause you thought it but it is still an prediction voice for the fact that the voice said he was going to do something bad or wrong. And well he might but that is really none of anyones business untill that person has done something wrong as well as it would be an assumption on your behalf because you can't make an assumption just because well the assumption is just that its not fact its a guess. Prediction voices may and could have to do with anything and everything to your life family members getting things etc etc. It could also have to do with school work or play.
[Enerpathic images is a form of Enerpathology. Which deals with Body language and facial expressions. Enerpathic images are where you see someone do something with there body or face but actually didn't. Which is where the saying (What are you seeing things) comes into effect. You can see different things like say you pointed at someone and then pointed at something else telling them to go and get that something or to go to the store type thing. But they actually didn't express that feeling and or thought of the feeling. Just like emoticons its all about body and facial expressions. You can have a confused look you can also at the same time have a, What just happened style of look. Which is technically the same look because the What just happened expression could have started from the being confused look. And then you could have a look as in i like this piece of pie, but, there is to much sugar in it, type thing. Reason Enerpathic images are the worst is cause they could have to do with anything. you could have gotten the expression of someone dying or falling or even getting the feeling that someone just hit you for no reason at all type thing.] There are thousands and thousands of different expression that someone could come up with in your facial or bodical language. There are lots of things you can do to stop it all weather you are to talk to someone about it take medications for it. ie. Olanzipiene Zyprexa or Zoloft as you mentioned in the thread.
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Sincerely Rakenfire!





[edit on 15-8-2009 by rakenfire]

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Voices could be caused by a number of things from what i know hitting your head and having a low level of the chemical that controls your thoughts. the way that hitting your head work with voice is that getting hit could case the chemicals in your brain to move into another chemical segment of your brain cause a chemical reaction causing voices.
Also you could suffer from a post dramatic diststress syndrome. Which is where you were hurt by anything as in you had been hit by a car which can cause voices just for fact that you might have been scared poopless because of what just happened. You also have a chemical that controls how to think properly without voices and thats what the doctors of today have figured out everyone has a different range of things it can help with, from anxiety to depression to other things like manic depression other things like scitsophrenia (not sure on spelling) hearing Voices which this is about. Ok well as i think, you have to figure out when you heard your first vioce or had your first Thought Voice. You could have heard a voice in your head about the imaginary friends type thing which is a very valueable source of where this could have all started. You also said that you couldn't say your imaginary friends name because it would hurt you. one way to help that problem is to pick someone (a doctor) and say no im saying your name you can't hurt me anymore you dont have control of me anymore and say it to the doctor and or person Friend family member or school teacher / Councilor. And litterally say everything you know about the imaginary friend. Then you have to completely ignore him/her. And as the thread heading said paranormal which could mean life after dead trying to get back into life causing a certain one person to hear voices or a few people to hear voices. One way of doing this is to say you hear a voice as soon as you hear it try to remember what it was that was said then walk away reason for the walk away is to have the person of imaginary belief realise that they are harming this person in there head. Because its imaginary its your own thought which is portraying the thought and imaginary friend which is one thing that could have caused you to get the voices in the frist place. One thing to say to yourself is that you have to think of others that have had the same problem get to know them they aren't imaginary to anyone just the imaginary friend is. They can help by telling you what they did to stop it or said or even thought of to get rid of it. Also having a short term memory could have lots to do with thoughts and voices. Reason for this is the stuff you leanred could be playing back over and over like the broken record effect. Things that you remember over a short time has to be remembered causing you to hear it again and agian till its sunk into your head. everyone has both short term and long term memory which are the 2 main memory types a human has. then there is photographic memory which is where they use both long term and short term memory to remember a whole bunch of things at once like being able to remember 1 - 100 items on a convejour belt system. As they go along the first item is short term till you reach a certain number of items then it is transferred to the long term memory bank in your brain. Reason for this is you have more time to think of that item as they go along the belt. As you get to the higher numbered items you still use the short term memory to process the items and you have the long term memory to remember the items you have already seen. Short term memory is your brains processor liek a computer and long term memory is like the data on the HDD. CPU ='s Short Term processing harddrive ='s to Long term processing and reading data.
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Sincerely Rakenfire!

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Regardless of what the voices say, anyone hearing voices should try to ignore the voices. They may claim to be "God" - they may claim to be "Satan" - they may claim to be mom, dad, son, daughter, etc. - they are NONE OF THE ABOVE - DO NOT LISTEN. Listening over a prolonged period can lead to very literal madness. Children have the best ability to shut down the voices if they can focus on positive "real world" interactions. Liquid in the ear, pressure to the ear or external sounds (like music) can help mitigate the hearing of voices, but they will NOT cease the voices. Certain material shieldings MAY silence the voices - basement of heavy wood/stone/brick home (particularly one that is NOT full of WiFi and modern equipment using Bluetooth, radio, microwave or electromagnetic transmissions AND no mercury-based lighting).

Something a little different but related to this thread:

I've wondered if braintrainment has anything to would either help or make things worse. The field of study involves sounds and that those sounds change the brain's frequency. At a glance, that seems like nothing special.

Then, I wonder if similar techniques would actually cause 'filters' upon sound. As such, when you normally hear certain sounds, you don't think much of it. When the so-called braintrainment sounds are generated along with the normal sounds you hear, it appears you hear voices and other such.

This is the part of the braintrainment studies that I don't think people are aware enough about. After these sounds are generated, or after the 'filters' are used for awhile, no longer do you require the sounds to be generated. You brain becomes 'trained' to listen for such sounds within normal sound.

One particular result could be you think you heard voices.