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The Questions U.F.O. skeptics can't answer

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posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
Shame on you for supporting the murder of an innocent man, regardless of what William Cooper believed in he didn’t deserve to be wrongfully killed.


Shame on me? Really.

The man would attack people who came near his property.

He shot a cop trying to serve a warrant because of Cooper's behavior and crimes.

And you tell me he was innocent. But because he said what you wanted to hear (or did he? Confused yet?) he must have been innocent. Who cares if he was a liar, who cares if he ruined a man's life? Right?

Shame on your for supporting a wanna-be murder, a liar, and all around general scum-bag.



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
First of all I’m not a cooper-ite, but I will stand up for him if he was innocently murdered.


For someone who claims to not be a Cooper-ite (and I can understand why you'd want to disassociate with that group, really I do) you sure do harp on him a lot.

And I'm still waiting to hear how he supposedly predicted 9/11.

[edit on 1-8-2008 by SaviorComplex]



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by SaviorComplex



You have no idea what your talking about I have never been a so called cooper-ite you are a fool for mis-judging me, you know nothing about me.


Your post shows extremely bad taste, absolute dis-respect for someone who was innocently murdered, I don't care what this man believed you are sick for believing he deserved to die. I have posted many times that I do not believe or agree with many things William Cooper did. Your above post shows your true colors and maturity level.



[edit on 1-8-2008 by Malevolent_Aliens]



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
absolute dis-respect for someone who was innocently murdered, I don't care what this man believed you are sick for believing he deserved to die...


When you wave a gun at people for the crime of just coming near your property, and then put a bullet in a cop's head, you deserve what you get. Cooper was not an innocent man.

You're just as sick for thinking he was innocent.

Do you also think the cop deserved to get shot by Cooper?



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 08:35 AM
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He shot a cop trying to serve a warrant because of Cooper's behavior and crimes.


That is a lie, he was shot 3ft in the head on his knees review the autopsy.

The police report was a lie, you have no idea what your talking about.



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 08:36 AM
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And I'm still waiting to hear that 9/11 prediction. Where is it?



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 08:40 AM
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Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
That is a lie, he was shot 3ft in the head on his knees review the autopsy.

The police report was a lie, you have no idea what your talking about.


Ah yes, everyone is lying, but Cooper's followers. That's usually how these brainless memes go. You have no evidence it was a lie; all you have is the police report, considering no one else was there.

By the by, that little thing with his autopsy, that is only one interpretation. Do you really think they would have had that man on HOTT if he didn't support their conclusions?

And you still haven't answered the question: how did an amputee manage to kneel? And why was he kneeling in the first place? Why would a man who said he was meet any warrant with armed resistence just give up? Doesn't it better serve the myth of the scum-bag if he goes down fighting, not on his knees?

Let's say you're right. He kneels, and they shoot him in the head. Why in the world would they shoot him in the ear if they were shooting him executing style?





[edit on 1-8-2008 by SaviorComplex]



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 08:59 AM
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Even if he was "assassinated", then congratulations to the cops. They did a public service.


Review what you wrote earlier, “I can see you edited your post. You said even if he was assassinated innocently congratulations to the cops, they did the public a service.


Shame on you for that, your true colors show well, thanks for showing us how you really feel, I can see you have zero compassion for a human life.



When you wave a gun at people for the crime of just coming near your property, and then put a bullet in a cop's head, you deserve what you get. Cooper was not an innocent man.

You're just as sick for thinking he was innocent.

Do you also think the cop deserved to get shot by Cooper?


The report was falsified and a lie, William Cooper never shot anyone clearly you have not studied the autopsy and looked at the investigation report. It was impossible for W.C. to have shot the cop and be killed the way he was on his knees from 3ft away.

I never said W.C. predicted 9/11 maybe you mixed that up or I did about him discussing 9/11 two months prior to his death. Those who knew William Cooper a few even on ATS have openly expressed that they know he was innocent, his family and friends have all stated he was setup. You have never even met this person and you are judging him based on a falsified police report. Judge not lest ye be judged. Perhaps you are not listening to reason or reviewing the autopsy and investigation reports.


It’s people like you that destroy this world for the rest of us, shame on you for saying what you did earlier “Who cares if he was innocent congratulations to the cops” you are a disgrace to society and the human race.










[edit on 1-8-2008 by Malevolent_Aliens]



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by SaviorComplex

Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
That is a lie, he was shot 3ft in the head on his knees review the autopsy.

The police report was a lie, you have no idea what your talking about.


Ah yes, everyone is lying, but Cooper's followers. That's usually how these brainless memes go. You have no evidence it was a lie; all you have is the police report, considering no one else was there.

By the by, that little thing with his autopsy, that is only one interpretation. Do you really think they would have had that man on HOTT if he didn't support their conclusions?

And you still haven't answered the question: how did an amputee manage to kneel? And why was he kneeling in the first place? Why would a man who said he was meet any warrant with armed resistence just give up? Doesn't it better serve the myth of the scum-bag if he goes down fighting, not on his knees?

Let's say you're right. He kneels, and they shoot him in the head. Why in the world would they shoot him in the ear if they were shooting him executing style?


You know what you keep calling me Coopers follower because I am standing up for a mans rights. I don't care who the person is but if he was inncoently murdered that is just plain wrong and I will stand up for that person.

The autopsy shows that he must have fallen to the ground or been bent over possibly on one knee because of the angle of the bullet that penetrated. You have zero qualifications to make such judgements or statements, I suggest you listen to the experts on this one.


I still can't get over what you said earlier, it pisses me off that there are people out there like you.








[edit on 1-8-2008 by Malevolent_Aliens]



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
Review what you wrote earlier, “I can see you edited your post. You said even if he was assassinated innocently congratulations to the cops, they did the public a service.


Yes, that was very harsh of me, and I changed it. I admit to it. Not like you caught me at anything.

And yes, I still think they did a public service. It was only a matter of time before Cooper hurt someone, other than the cop who's life he ruined.


Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
Shame on you for that, your true colors show well, thanks for showing us how you really feel, I can see you have zero compassion for a human life.



But it's okay to shoot a cop and wave a gun in the face of innocent people, cause by damn it, he was on to the truth!


Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
The report was falsified and a lie, William Cooper never shot anyone clearly you have not studied the autopsy and looked at the investigation report. It was impossible for W.C. to have shot the cop and be killed the way he was on his knees from 3ft away.


Please tell us where 1) the report was falsified (You have no evidence for that, just wishful thinking*) and 2) that he was shot on his knees from three feet away.

Clearly, you haven't studied the autospy report. Let's see what it says, shall we?

According to the forensic pathologist, Cooper was not killed by the shot to the head, though it certainly helped:


Death of this man is due to gunshot wounds to the torso with perforations of the heart. A gunshot wound to the head with skull fracture is contributory...


As for the bullet wound to the head:


After penetrating the right ear and skin behind the right ear, the bullet passed downward and leftward through the tissues of the upper right neck and basal skull. There is marked hemorrhage within the soft tissues.


Why on Earth, if you are going to shoot someone execution-style while they are kneeling, would you shoot them in the ear?



Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
I never said W.C. predicted 9/11 maybe you mixed that up or I did about him discussing 9/11 two months prior to his death.


That is why the Cooper-ites claim he was "assassinated."


Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
Those who knew William Cooper a few even on ATS have openly expressed that they know he was innocent, his family and friends have all stated he was setup.


Wow, imagine that, people who were duped by this scum-bag claiming he was innocent. What are the odds of that? And what is their evidence? More wishful thinking?


(*Funny you would rather have Cooper dying on his knees like a coward, than going down fighting, like he wanted. How pathetic.)


[edit on 1-8-2008 by SaviorComplex]



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 09:21 AM
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[edit on 1-8-2008 by Malevolent_Aliens]



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 09:38 AM
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Death of this man is due to gunshot wounds to the torso with perforations of the heart. A gunshot wound to the head with skull fracture is contributory...

As for the bullet wound to the head:

After penetrating the right ear and skin behind the right ear, the bullet passed downward and leftward through the tissues of the upper right neck and basal skull. There is marked hemorrhage within the soft tissues.


Your showing your own version of the report the police want you to believe. I am not hear to discuss William Coopers case with you that would be a clear waste of my time,I barely even knew the person but I will for a last time mention what you said earlier.

"Even if he was assassinated innocently, congratulations to the cops"


You have shown your true colors here today, you can't take those words back becuase you already said them and showed you meant them, sure who cares it's just another human life big deal. What do you care right?



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 09:41 AM
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Most of us skeptics don't necessarily deny the existence of Aliens, Alien Craft . . or other Super Natural phenomena. Skeptics mainly just want solid proof and debunk evidence that is obviously faked or not researched. The majority of us are not here to say thing don’t exist; we want to make sure people don’t blindly follow false evidence. Unfortunately there is no evidence that has been 100% proven to be true. Evidence that is at best questionable is still not proof. We ask that as much research is placed in findings before posting. Ask yourself, how could a skeptic possibly debunk this, and if you can find at least 10 holes in your story, don’t post it because it is most likely a fraudulent story unless it is a story you want to see debunked.



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
Your showing your own version of the report the police want you to believe...


Funny you should say that. I actually got the autopsy report from Hour of the Time, the website for Cooper's radio show, in the section about his murder.



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
You have shown your true colors here today, you can't take those words back becuase you already said them and showed you meant them, sure who cares it's just another human life big deal. What do you care right?



You're not being fair, Malevolent. He already addressed this quote, and you're cherry-picking by not including the next sentence or two that explains this statement.

Instead of relying on the emotional shock value of repeating this again and again, why don't you address his questions?



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by SaviorComplex

Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
Your showing your own version of the report the police want you to believe...


Funny you should say that. I actually got the autopsy report from Hour of the Time, the website for Cooper's radio show, in the section about his murder.


You got it all wrong and it's not worth the discussion with you anymore. You have shown what kind of a person you are, it's a real shame to have people like you around.



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
"Even if he was assassinated innocently, congratulations to the cops"


WHOA. Hold you. I misread what you claimed earlier.

Yes, I admit I said it was a public service. No bones about it.

However, I did not say "innocently." You added that.



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
You got it all wrong and it's not worth the discussion with you anymore...


I got it wrong?

Really? Here is the URL to the autopsy report I cited (and you claim I haven't read)...you can clearly see it comes from Cooper's site:

www.hourofthetime.com...



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 10:17 AM
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Instead of relying on the emotional shock value of repeating this again and again, why don't you address his questions?


He doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to William Coopers case period. He thinks he does and is trying to play smart but hasn't figured it all out because he hasn't read all the reports or he wouldn't have asked me questions that can be found in them. I'm not here to talk about William Cooper. I have merely stated that he has it all wrong and I will leave it at that.



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 10:21 AM
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Really? Here is the URL to the autopsy report I cited (and you claim I haven't read)...you can clearly see it comes from Cooper's site:


It doesn't matter what site it comes from it doesn't prove a thing only further supports that he was murdered, you have asked me questions that can be found in the reports so it appears you didn't read the reports from the links I provided.



[edit on 1-8-2008 by Malevolent_Aliens]



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