The Questions U.F.O. skeptics can't answer

reply to post by thrashee


So you don't intend to state any alternative possibilities as a counter to the claims of the OP? - or even my own?

Do you intend to contribute anything or do you just intend on making scornful and unproductive remarks to the participant posters?

You have to support yourseide of the argument with something. You would have been absolved if you had posted only once on this thread to tell us you were skeptical... However Your continued participation denotes an agenda that and you are well aware that you are being purposefully detrimental to the thread.

Why is this so important to you? Don't answer that, you already did - but you didn't leave afterwards, even after stating that you did not care about this thread - and yet you must.

You must care about this ridiculous thread even more than I, or Polomontana. But Why? (Don't answer that., you already did)

Please stop Trolling.



[edit on 1-8-2008 by TruthTellist]

Originally posted by TruthTellist
reply to post by thrashee

 

Sp you don't intend to sate any alternative possibilities as a counter to the claims of the OP? - or even my own?

Do you intend to contribute anything or do you just intend on making scornful and unproductive remarks to the participant posters?

What "alternative possibilities" are you looking for? Wait...are you still operating under the mistaken assumption that the skeptic must provide alternatives in order to refute your claims? Or are you asking more along casual lines, like what is my opinion?

What I've tried contributing over many, many posts are very thorough explanations for why skeptics employ reason and why the OP was illogical to begin with.

reply to post by thrashee


Why are the skeptics even still here? I mean clearly they don't believe in ET's as there is absolutely no evidence am I right skeptics? So why even debate it in the first place? I'm thinking some of these skeptics have alot of time on their hands and perhaps need to get a life.

reply to post by Malevolent_Aliens


See, now, you're flirting again

But you're right--I have WAY too much time on my hands!

reply to post by Malevolent_Aliens


Don't be mean. Don't slander belittle or demean.

We must not lower ourselves all the way down to their level

Both sides can argue until they are blue in the face.
in the end it is the believers that have the burden of proof
Your search for the truth is beguiled by misinformation ,Charlatans ,hoaxers
CGI artists and a host of other possibilities for what UFO's are.

Wheres your smocking gun
when you get one that I can scrutinize I will be glad to debate it's value on the subject.

Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
reply to post by thrashee

 

Why are the skeptics even still here? I mean clearly they don't believe in ET's as there is absolutely no evidence am I right skeptics? So why even debate it in the first place? I'm thinking some of these skeptics have alot of time on their hands and perhaps need to get a life.

thats the typical cop out
don't debate, because you believe in something akin to a religion .
can't feel it, cant see it, cant touch it ,but you are convinced on faith alone
with the dogma you have ,how can you debate.

reply to post by solo1


Your analogy does not make sense.

Spirituality is quite different from Ufology. I suggest you learn why.

reply to post by Malevolent_Aliens


You said..
'Why are the skeptics even still here?'


well....

Did you see the name of the thread??

If so, how can you ask that question?

It wasn't titled 'The believers logic is right so keep away skeptics' was it??



[edit on 1/8/08 by blupblup]

Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
Why are the skeptics even still here? I mean clearly they don't believe in ET's as there is absolutely no evidence am I right skeptics?

No, you're not entirely right....

Your statement is an example of filtering and interpreting information in such a way that it fits with what you want to believe. It is, like roughly half of this thread -- ya'll know which half I'm referring to -- a gross assumption.

Most of the skeptics on these boards have expressed opinions that leave open the possibility of extra-terrestrial life; rarely will you find an unequivocal denial of their existence. And frankly, I imagine many of them are tired of constantly having to point that out, only to be ignored and/or bad-mouthed by those with less ability or desire to reason and contemplate the evidence, be it trace or anecdotal.

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Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
Why are the skeptics even still here? I mean clearly they don't believe in ET's as there is absolutely no evidence am I right skeptics? So why even debate it in the first place? I'm thinking some of these skeptics have alot of time on their hands and perhaps need to get a life.

Why are the believers here? They clearly believe the weakest of evidence, beyond any reason, and will believe any story regardless of it's credibility, am I right, believers? So why even debate in the first place? I'm thinking some of these believers have a lot of time on their hands, lack any sort of intelligence or ability to think critically, and perhaps need to get both an education and a life.

See how I flipped that?

Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
Repeat--3/60, pg 21--29
repeat repeat-- circular motion. pg 30-39.

YAWN.…Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Thank you for the display and confirmation of your maturity.

By the by, I'm glad to see you edited out that idiotic claim that the "believers" somehow won and skeptics should just give up. But I'm curious, considering that no one contributing to or reading this thread was convinced by anything the believers had to say, how can you claim you somehow "won?"

reply to post by SaviorComplex

Thank you for the display and confirmation of your maturity.

By the by, I'm glad to see you edited out that idiotic claim that the "believers" somehow won and skeptics should just give up. But I'm curious, considering that no one contributing to or reading this thread was convinced by anything the believers had to say, how can you claim you somehow "won?"

Savior,

I think your taking this thread a little too seriously!

Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
I think your taking this thread a little too seriously!

Ah yes. Another cop-out answer. Thanks, tell us all we need to know.

Originally posted by SaviorComplex

Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
I think your taking this thread a little too seriously!

Thanks, tell us all we need to know.

OK I will tell you all you need to know!

ET’s are real because I have seen them with my own eyes and had physical contact with them. There is no reason why I should further discuss ET’s in this thread. I'm not seeking that knowledge I KNOW.

By the way Savior, you were wrong about William Cooper he was shot at 3ft away on his knees in the head, seconds later in the chest. Now that doesn't exactly match up to the police report now does it? Is this why you have completely avoided that discussion?

Anyway, go about your usual business.





[edit on 1-8-2008 by Malevolent_Aliens]

Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
ET’s are real because I have seen them with my own eyes and had physical contact with them. There is no reason why I should further discuss ET’s in this thread. I'm not seeking that knowledge I KNOW.

Then I submit the same question you asked earlier. Why are you even here? What is there to discuss?

Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
By the way Savior, you were wrong about William Cooper he was shot at 3ft away on his knees in the head, seconds later in the chest. Now that doesn't exactly match up to the police report now does it? Is this why you have completely avoided that discussion?

Let me in on a little secret, child. Just because you chose to ignore my arguments and questions, it does not mean I avoided the discussion. Besides, there is nothing to discuss with Cooper-ites, they are the lowest of the low among the UFO believers. To them there is no such thing as logic or critical thinking. Just a belligerent, aggressive lying sack of scum who they believe because he says what they want to hear, without the least bit of supporting evidence.

Since you are one of the mindless Cooper-ites, could you please tell us exactly how he "predicted" 9/11. Use his words, verbatim, not some ridiculous interpretation. His words.

Just how in the world did they manage to get an amputee on his knees?

Even if he was "assassinated", then congratulations to the cops. They did a public service. He would have ended up hurting a lot of people, and they did the world a favor by putting him down before he could hurt anyone else. Too bad a cop had to be hurt in the process.


[edit on 1-8-2008 by SaviorComplex]

It's interesting. Polo keeps up his circular defense, and others jump in to support him on occasion and bugging out as soon as they are being questioned only to show up a few pages later to repeat the process.

I honestly don't know what to make of Polo, it seems to me he is either extremely ignorant or have some sort of condition, either way; Guys, you are not ever going to reach him.

Or he's simply the most skilled troll I've ever seen. He keeps pulling you back in time after time even though most have at one point or another stated that they was done with the thread.

Either way, I will continue to read this thread for as long as it's alive in the hopes that logic and reason will prevail. I am however, not very hopeful. Thrashee, Mr. Penny, et al. Hat's off and star to you all for your incredible patience.

Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
By the way Savior, you were wrong about William Cooper...

Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to America's favorite gameshow: CONFUSE THE COOPER-ITE!

Let's meet our first contestant. She's a self-professed follower of William Cooper, who claims to have met aliens, despite the fact that Cooper said UFOs and aliens were just an NWO plot. Let's have a big round of applause for Malevolent_Aliens!

Malevolent_Aliens, here's your first question: If the big-bad conspiracy is as smart and devious as Cooper and his followers claim, do you think they would actually assassinate Cooper and risk giving credence to his claims?

Here's your second question: Since you already believe the big-bad conspiracy possesses near god-like abilities to confuse, obfuscate and mislead, doesn't it stand to reason they'd assassinate Cooper just to make you think he was on to something, when he was really just blowing wind out his behind?

Third question, and this is for the win and the confusion: Since Cooper wanted a suicide-by-cop in order to become a martyr, and lead credence to his claims, don't you think he got exactly what he wanted? And don't you just feel like a big fat dupe for falling for it?

BONUS Question: For someone who blew a lot of steam about wanting to die for his cause, he sure did turn tail and run like a coward, didn't he? He'd act like a big man, wave a gun in the face of the unnarmed, but met with someone he couldn't intimidate, he got a huge yellow streak, didn't he? Isn't that just the funniest and most pathetic thing you've ever heard?

[edit on 1-8-2008 by SaviorComplex]

reply to post by SaviorComplex

Then I submit the same question you asked earlier. Why are you even here? What is there to discuss?

Exactly the reason why I abandoned the thread pages ago, your right there is nothing left here for me to discuss.

Even if he was "assassinated", then congratulations to the cops. They did a public service.

First of all I’m not a cooper-ite, but I will stand up for him if he was innocently murdered.

Shame on you for supporting the murder of an innocent man, regardless of what William Cooper believed in he didn’t deserve to be wrongfully killed.

Your true colors are coming out I can see that, it’s sad to have people like you around!