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Originally posted by dalan.
It is near impossible for a single person to live off minimum wage.
Originally posted by slackerwire
reply to post by forthepeople
3.7 mil and you still can't manage to use elementary school level grammar?
Originally posted by justamomma
Originally posted by dalan.
It is near impossible for a single person to live off minimum wage.
Not impossible in the least. The problem is, ppl think that "living" entails having a nice computer, big screen t.v., home w/ two bathrooms, nearly new car, cell phone, stereo system, etc etc etc.
A single person can not only LIVE off of minimum wage w/ ease, they can put some in savings too!! We are just living in a spoiled society!
Originally posted by ncuncfan2006
Sorry if you post BS im gonna call you on it. And this is the biggest load of BS i seen in all 22 pages.
Originally posted by dalan.
It is near impossible for a single person to live off minimum wage.
Working for minimum wage in my area you would clear $750 a month.. Less than that if you pay for health insurance.
A apartment one bedroom even section 8 would be $350... and who wants to live around drug dealers? But still we will say $350 . That leaves $400...
Electric Bill. Just went up 11% in this area. Say $80 bucks.
Leaves $320.
We are not even gonna say you have a car payment. Lets say you own your own car. hmm car insurance and gas under the best of situations for the month easily would take $150. And Im being very generous here.
That leaves you $170 for food, clothes, medications, hygiene products etc. No basic cable tv, internet. No cell phone or land line.
And this is for a single person. 1 kid? heh hang it up...
Sure if you wanna live in a cave without any modern necessities you can make it off that. However we are not in the Dark Ages.
[edit on 26-7-2008 by ncuncfan2006]
Originally posted by mybigunit
reply to post by skeptic1
A good living wage for a burger flipper or cleaner or whatever should be $10.00 and hour. I feel that is where minimum wage should be right now. Anything below that it you cant survive.
Originally posted by ncuncfan2006
I figured you would bring roommates into the discussion. You know how many people ive heard complain about their roommates. Cant get along, wont pay his/her share etc etc
This may work out if you are lucky enough to find good roommates you can trust.
However I was talking about a single person with noone else helping them. Noone to share the bills with roommates or otherwise.
Of course you can be like most illegals and all shack up in a house 3 to a room and pay 100 bucks each for rent.
But truely most people want their own space and privacy and living with certain people can be a chore.
[edit on 26-7-2008 by ncuncfan2006]
Originally posted by justamomma
Originally posted by mybigunit
reply to post by skeptic1
A good living wage for a burger flipper or cleaner or whatever should be $10.00 and hour. I feel that is where minimum wage should be right now. Anything below that it you cant survive.
So far, most of your posts on this board in general I have agreed with. This however, I can not. What do ppl consider essential to living that you would HAVE to be making $10/hr to SURVIVE?
Flipping burgers is hardly a skill that is worthy of having a minimum $10/hr wage. Moving up to maybe floor manager and then manager would seemingly be worthy of raises, but a burger flipper?
This is a job for someone who is STILL IN HIGHSCHOOL!!! There is little to no real thought process required for such a job. Next thing you know ppl are going to start demanding that mothers get income for being mothers (oh, wait, I guess they do that through food stamps and other such programs).
And someone who is for all these MW increases please explain to me what you think is entailed in surviving?
I have just shown how a single person can easily, not only live, but live rather comfortably for less than $750/mo. All it takes is the actual using of one's brain.
This is one of those threads that amazes me. The data on this is crystal clear. It cannot get any clearer. It is simply a fact that when you remove artificial wages the average median wage rises and quartile median wages rise across all sectors. This happens every time its tested in the economic models. The inflation impact works both ways - the justification for raising the minimum wage from the populist brigade is always because of inflation, but in doing so inflation gets raised yet again. Its a cycle.
Originally posted by justamomma
reply to post by ncuncfan2006
As I have stated before, I am not saying there aren't obvious problems. I just don't see that raising minimum wage will fix those problems. In fact, I dare say it will only continue to elevate those problems.
Did minimum wage increases help your friend or really hurt her? I know that some on here have said that MW increases do not affect the prices, and that is BS. I have already had a business owner friend admit that he had to raise the prices a bit on his products (right after he said that it does not affect it. ).
So, since she is making over MW, right?, then she is unlikely to an increase in her wages, but she may have to struggle even harder now to keep up with merchants raising their prices to compensate for the pay increases they must now give their "lower" skilled employees.
I think it was Einstein who said we can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.
I have ideas of other solutions, but others aren't going to want to listen to them or anyone with alternative REAL solutions so long as they are buying into this illusion that the government playing parent to the individual is the solution. People are so dependent on their comforts and conveniences that they are letting the very ones they claim to not trust make the decisions for them.
You have been fed this "scrooge" mentality about business owners when in actuality, most of the small business owners I know are anything BUT scrooges. It is the big coorporations that are deceiving you bc they are making money off your ignorance.