Unbelievable event just happened to me

reply to post by ParaFreaky


What about BlackOps719's situation?

BlackOps719's situation might be that big company is looking to invest in something major down the line which nobody knows about. He freaked out because if the owner or the tenant would come asking questions, they'd have to lie and raise suspicion. Maybe they want to build something here.

Maybe they were location scouts for a future film, TV series episode, commercial. The list is really long of the things that COULD have been without having to do with anything on this site.

reply to post by Element-115


I agree with this summary, just think, if it was gov. they do not need to take pics of your vehicle or plates or even your residence, now some freelancer of sorts? maybe, my approach to these types of things is easy stay vigilante and do not worry till something comes of it, if anything even comes of it at all, it is probably involving a neighbor anyway based on the high income demographics of your neighborhood... Don't sweat this and get some sleep....

reply to post by Element-115

Hehehe... I know I tend to use very intellectual language within the content of my posts. I can't help it because that's what I'm used to, but I guess I could lay off it a little, if it helps anything. I suppose I should take more things into consideration.

reply to post by ParaFreaky


No no, don't misunderstand me... be intellectual, smart and careful.

Just DON'T use the code names for projects you don't know anything about. Always refer to it as 'IT, THAT' etc.

Speak like you would just choose your words carefully and make sure you don't repeat the names of the things you talk about which has something to do with the Gov.

That's all.

reply to post by Element-115

Ehehe...yikes....

reply to post by pureevil81
fyi: If you're on disability and a car pulls up with a guy taking your picture, it's a "Surveillance Check". Your company pays the adjuster/company that handles your claim to hire a detective to make sure you are really injured / still injured. They also talk to your neighbors if it is felt necessary.

Corporate America will shell out big bucks to make sure "the right candidate" takes office, hell Corporate America will pay big bucks to their CEO's and top level managers that are nothing but a waste of space but let a person get his/her hand crushed doing the "real work" and they jump at putting that injured person under a microscope. (They will also test you for drugs when you first come in with your injury).

No, I'm not a disgrunted injured worker. I'm a adjuster that is paid to "move claims along" to the corporation's satisfaction.





[edit on 19-7-2008 by ofhumandescent]

Oh my god something a lot like that happened to me! I was sitting in my living room with my dad on a weekday (I got suspended) and some guy in a blue car pulled up in my driveway and instantly got mine and my fathers attention. He started looking around and taking notes! He left before we could get his license. We were pretty shocked.

The most innocent thing I could think of, would be that since he is old, maybe he lived there in that house, and he was pointing the camera toward you car to get pix of the whole thing. You don't know if he was on zoom or not. I would do that if I wanted a picture of my old house, or even a friends old house, but after that, I dunno. How old is your house? If is isn't old, then I would call it highly suspicious.

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to post by pureevil81

 

fyi: If you're on disability and a car pulls up with a guy taking your picture, it's a "Surveillance Check". Your company pays the adjuster/company that handles your claim to hire a detective to make sure you are really injured / still injured. They also talk to your neighbors if it is felt necessary.

[edit on 19-7-2008 by ofhumandescent]

CORRECT!

This is another alternative.

See, a lot of other things are out there... Not tied to this site.

I've read all the threads, and here's my best guess. If you live in a nice neighborhood, with fairly nice homes, somewhat expensive, then the person that you describe might be the local banker or loan officer taking pictures of their collateral.

As the economy is deteriorating, a lot of bankers are out taking pictures of houses, cars, and other collateral to determine how they plan on pursuing foreclosure and repossession.

The banker was taking pictures of your car because he thought that the car could possibly be additional collateral he could repossess - because he thought the car might belong to the owner of the house - your landlord - who is default on their loan.

If the landlord of your house defaulted on their home loan, and the landlord personally guaranteed the loan, the banker could try to go after repossessing the car too. Naturally, he can't do that, because the car belongs to you, not the landlord. The banker is fishing for collateral to shore up the defaulted loan. It could be that the landlord owes more than the house is worth, and the banker would want to sue the landlord to take the house and the car.

My guess is that your landlord is in trouble, and is behind on their mortgage payments. The guy that you described - older, nice clothes, etc. - sounds like a typical banker from your local community bank. Or a loan officer or collection officer from the bank.

He didn't want to have you notice him because he is trying to gather information on the debtor without being noticed.

This is a perfectly rational explanation. Now, it also could be a realtor, or someone working for a large developer that wants to purchase your house. That seems unlikely. Given the economic climate right now, with the massive amounts of defaults and foreclosures, I bet you have a banker just checking out his collateral - but doesn't want any attention drawn to himself.

If you are really scared, move. Buy the book, How to Be Invisible, and rent another place. I personally would just hold tight, call your landlord and ask some point blank direct questions of the landlord - preferably face to face - and gauge their reaction.

You might be able to find out who has the loan on the property, and try to determine if the loan is in default. That might be difficult to do, because banks cannot release private information. Or you could call the bank and ask them about your home and see if it is in foreclosure - acting as if you were an investor looking for a deal.

Worst case scenario, you may be sending your rental checks to the bank if your landlord goes bankrupt, which is happening a lot. If your landlord had too much debt, or a drug or drinking problem, or a gambling addiction, they may not be paying their mortgage note.

This is my best guess. It could be something more nefarious, but bankruptcies, and mortgage defaults are very prevalent right now, and a lot of bankers are on the street taking pictures of their collateral so they can sue the debtor - in this case, your landlord. I wouldn't be too alarmed just yet, unless you start to see additional strange things happening in the neighborhood.

reply to post by truthseekerpeacemaker


I personally dont find your post funny. I also think that making such claims should requiere some proof. This was something that happened to the op. and he is obviously worried about it. So back them claims up with some proof.

To the op. There have been many great points made as to what this guy was doing there. Years ago i worked with a p.i and repo'ed cars. Sounds to me like a p.i that is not very good at his job. And repo guys tend to go out after midnight to scope out the scene so to speak. And when scoping out people, normally will follow them to see where they go and who they see.

But the truth is, it could be almost anything. So many possible, would be to hard to know without them telling you.

Paranoid much?...lol. You sound like that lady in the U.K. who approached a guy thinking he was taking pics of kids for pornagraphic material...turns out he was taking pics of his own kids. Have you ever thought that they were taking pictures of something behind you or maybe something that has happened before in that place before you were there. I would say that it has nothing to do with you.

[edit on 19-7-2008 by riggs2099]

reply to post by russ1969


You need to chill out....sure the truth has no whateva you need but then again niether does the OP. You just may have fallen into a B.S. story that many hoaxers bring just to mess the serious investigations that people do...lol.

Sounds like we are a little paranoid to me! Somebody been smoking something? Hehehe, J/K OP.

I'd be more paranoid about your internet activity being monitored by reptilian pedophiles than I would about some old fart taking pictures in a public place. It could have been for a thousand reasons but to automatically assume ill intent is not necessarily the route to take. (Unless, say, you have a bitter ex-wife or something like that)

Lets get back to the real world. Sometimes cruising ATS too frequently is a LOT like smoking too much of that wacky weed. You can get pretty damned paranoid if you are exposed too frequently to some of the outrageous claims floated on here!

Well he was clearly checking out your topless chest.

I mean, wouldn't you stop and look if some chick was running around naked?

I am quite certain the circumstances would be similiar if it was an pld homo who was driving past a young man.

Next times it happens, confront them or at the least get their license plate. Place them under citizens arrest for something bogus.

reply to post by kidflash2008


An in-depth background check is one thing. But even then they usually won't actually take photographs of your house..
That's creepy..

The only thing I can think of is perhaps someone driving around taking photos for google earth or something but... I dunno it doesn't make sense why they would photograph a particular home..

I have a similar story from when I was a teenager...

Back in 1996 around the time I witnessed multiple UFO's we used to have a strange car drive up and park in front of my grandmother's house (always in early am between 3am and 5am before the sun rose). I was the only one who ever noticed it.. The first time I saw it I could hear a car and see the tail lights and the car would always park alongside the road for a quick getaway (not in the circle driveway which would be even more suspicious). Later on, during the coming weeks, the same car would show up intermittently throughout the week but never in a distinct chronological pattern where you could predict it would be there. The only predictable aspect of it was the time it would show up and sit there.

Now, this may not seem that odd to most people but my grandmother's home is in an EXTREMELY small town in northeastern Oklahoma and the closest home is a quarter of a mile away (if not more). I used to actually wake up at 3-4 am just to see if the stupid car was there or not and many times IT WAS!! with the red tail-lights obvious, headlights off, just sitting there.. Sometimes for HOURS doing absolutely nothing, noone getting out, etc.. I know because sometimes I would sit in the bedroom window and watch to see when it would finally go away.

I kept telling my father, my sisters, and my grandparents this was happening but noone took me seriously.. But one morning myself and my father woke up at 5am to get ready to go dove hunting. When I decided to step outside and get some fresh air and wait on my dad to finish getting ready, I saw the stupid car there AGAIN.. I dragged my dad outside and he saw it too FINALLY. I ran after it (I have no idea what I was thinking).

I saw one person in the driver's seat and noone else. It was still dark so It was extremely difficult to see anything else.. But I did see someone look at me in the rear-view mirror as the car sped off down the road going about 60 on the dirt/gravel road with a huge plume of dust behind it.

Who was in that car or why, I have no idea.. I've always thought about it because it doesn't make any sense. I never saw the flash of a camera or anything of the sort. I never heard the person get out of the car at any point either because I would have heard the car door shut.

And then one day in mid-summer I was alone at the house and was scared out of my wits when 4 pitch black, blackhawk helicopters landed right in front of the house on my grandfather's old runway. I never saw anyone get out, but it was interesting.. And all this happened around the same time..

-ChriS

[edit on 20-7-2008 by BlasteR]

You should work on installing a surveillance camera. I have one right above my door facing the road, and 2 on my window, records 24/7, film is directly converted and stored on my pc. I also have a big red sign saying 'Trespassers Will Be Shot'

reply to post by riggs2099


I am very chilled out, thank you very much. Truthseeker claims he works for google and his co worker ted was the man the op saw. So for this thread to end with the facts, I would say dont come here making such claims without some verification. And telling the op he is just paranoid isnt much of post in my opinion. The fact is, what the op has stated happens alot to many people. So i wouldnt shout hoax. Give him the benefit of the doubt. Im sure you would ask the same if this happened to you.

Thank you and have a wonderful night.

It may have been more related to neighbors or the general area. That would be because of the area being under investigation for some reason. Check with neighbors and see if they have witnessed this PI or know what might be going on.

Originally posted by Ferengi
You should work on installing a surveillance camera. I have one right above my door facing the road, and 2 on my window, records 24/7, film is directly converted and stored on my pc. I also have a big red sign saying 'Trespassers Will Be Shot'

Thanks to everyone for all of the great suggestions. After having time to think this through I am leaning more toward an easy, common sense explanation for what took place.

Matter of fact Ferengi wrote the exact conclusion that I have come to, first thing Monday I am installing closed circuit cameras in the front and side of my house. Its a good thing to have anyway, and if I catch this guy in the act again I will have him on tape. That way if litigation or any sort of court proceedings take place I will have evidence that this fool was stalking me and was in a place that he didn't belong.

The whole ordeal has been pretty creepy to say the least, but it has done one positive thing and that is it has made me realize how vulnerable I am at the moment with no way to document what is happening. Honestly I am thinking of moving when this lease runs out in January. Im thinking of buying a house and a chunk of land with a gated entrance somewhere out in the sticks.

That way if anyone even thinks about trespassing through those gates they had better have a warrant and a very good reason for being there.

Im tired of living in a city right in the middle of all of these people. You never know who could be living two doors down from you or who could be keeping tabs.

This is something I have been planning to do for a long time anyway, this sure helps with the decision to move to action.

And for you doubters...YES I am paranoid...and it is this paranoia that will keep me alive and in tact for years to come. People die every day from lack of preparation and lack of attention to the details of their surroundings. It is better to be overly suspicious than it is to get caught slipping.