Just how mad would you be?

I would be surprised if the government came clean on this because all the abductee's might just go after them for causing them stress by there denial.

I have talked with many experiencers and some handle it just fine but there are others that do not.

If the government came out and said they knew and denied it because they didn't want people to panic they just might be in for some hugh law suits.

There are men, women and children that live with this in there life and don't like it, don't understand it and our government if they knew should have had areas in which these abductee's could seek help in any way they might have needed it.

Instead for many, many, many decades if you talked about this and a DR. got a hold of you they put you on meds and in many cases put into wards for mental patients high on said meds.

Children are scared and need to have help when dealing with this and it has all been put under the covers for far to long.

As far as the ignorance and the tones some skeptics us I say shame on you. If/when your time comes I can only hope what you sent around comes right back at ya!







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I've been incredibly angry with the government(s) since the Gulf War, and witnesses the Kurdish peoples flight out of Iraq into the arms of the world, only in horror to watch news coverage continue as over 90% of their children died of starvation, with no help, and then in the end they were forced back to be killed by the madman in power.

The proof of how unimaginable evil the governments are is in the fruit. The tree bears fruit. This disclosure of documents, if done well before any declaration of martial law, would be a very good thing. And it must include their advanced science and energy solutions.

The real question is, would I be angry enough to demand their executions, if they would admit all their crimes and step down? No, its like Benjamin Fulford said in his letter to David Rockefeller (in the guise of his murdered grandfather speaking) the whole world knows you are an evil bad guy, but you're getting old now, you have a chance to change it all and start working on behalf of humanity (all 6 billion of us!) and could be remembered as a most progressive and positive hero (paraphrased by me). I think I could see that side of it, should they come clean and start to undo all the harm.

Edit: double post

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I think most folks who read these forums and/or are interested in this kind of thing, already know we are being lied to.
It's not ground-breaking news.

That's probably the reason many are here....to find out the secrets behind all of this, or just meet like minded people and exchange ideas.

Considering that they have out right denied the existence of extraterrestrials/ufo's then yes I would be po'ed. If we can't trust the governement with that type of life-altering information that would be important for all people accross this world, what can we trust them with? Now as far as mass anarchy, I don't believe so but there will be protests all across the world, that I can guarantee

I'm mad at Hollywood(and the rest) for perpetuating the panic myth.

The main reason why the government supresses this info is because it believes the knowledge would create panic amongst the population. Such "panic" be it aliens, terrorist attacks, disasters etc are always portrayed in movies with mass panicking population. In addition people talk as if that is exactly what would happen. Note the folks here on ATS who want their guns for that very day !!!!!!!

In reality people don't panic and analysis has shown that the best group to deal with a post disaster situation is the PUBLIC and NOT the authorities.

Note the follawing incidents:

The twin towers were hit.
The attacks in London.
The attacks in Madrid.
Every flood or earthquake anywhere in the world in recent memory!

NO PANIC, we just get on with it and helped where possible.

So blame hollywood and those here on ATS who believe in the hollywood panic myth for perpetuating this scenario and thus allowing the government to justify its continued cover-ups. Still I suppose if you can't show thousands of people running through the streets screaming their heads off it might require some more imaginative (and thus more expensive) scripts and sets

Well it isnt alien technology...or aliens...its just technology they are hiding...and yes i would be pissed...and i am pissed..

The people in charge want you to think that all "anti-gravity", warp technology is extraterrestrial so they can kill 5 Billion+ people with it. The same principle is being used now in associating all muslims with terrorists and vice versa.

A human made "anti-gravity" vehicle is just a sophisticated electromagnet with a nuclear power plant on board. All atoms have a dipole and with that you can stretch the space around you, attract it and repel it as desired. Think about it.

I would like to give you an example and I hope this makes you as mad "yes mad" as it has made me.

I talked with two different teenage boys (age 14,15) about this and if this doesn't make you mad then I don't know what will. (examples)

They both said they had encounters with ALIENS and they were very scared.

The one boy tried talking to his parents about what was happening to him and they took him to the Dr.s and he was put on meds and he was made to go see a shrink who put him on worst drugs and he said they (the meds) were messing up his mind, he wishes he never said anything. He said his parents give him the meds and stood there while he took them but he started to hide it in his mouth and when he would leave the room he got rid of them and just suffers alone with what is happening to him. He tried to talk to his friends who just made fun of him so his life is spent alone and suffering cause he doesn't know what to do.

The other boy says he told his best friend and his best friend went to school the next day and spread it all over and he was made fun of and became a laughing joke throughout the school. He said he is afraid to go to bed at night and stays up and quietly plays cames to keep himself awake and when he hears his parents coming up to bed he turns the system off and waits until they are settled them he plays until he falls asleep from exhaustion. He says his grades in school went from very good right down the dumper and he is in all kinds of trouble because of his grades. He said he tried to put hints out by talking and asking his parents about this stuff but they just told him there is no such thing it's all a bunch of crap, so he suffers alone.

I'm sorry but if the government knows and I believe most of us know they know then these boys have suffered horribly and being young they don't know what to do and come to the net to find people to talk to about this.

Now we come to the net and the skeptics are so cold in tone as a whole that it turns your stomach at times.

These children are suffering and they need to be listened to not called idiots, stupid, a moron, and laughed at.

All I can say is people need to think about what I wrote and be a little more sensitive.

These are just two examples of the young suffering trying to find help on sites like this and even here the skeptics insult and belittle them.

I think people need to look into there heart and find some love and share it and help the people that are suffering with this. We need Centers to be opened with the people that deal with this and professionals that understand the stress these kids and adults are having trouble handling and this government should be paying for it.

People don't need drugs they need to be listened to.





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Well I'm skeptical about the govt knowing what's really going on. Nor do I believe that the govt is in cahoots with the aliens, like allowing them to abduct us in exchange for their technology.
Having said that, I'd never laugh or belittle anyone for their beliefs or experiences whether real or imaginary.

I agree, the government knows they're in our skies, but they have absolutely NO idea as to where they came from, why they're here, etc etc. They're scared about it, and they feel we'll go into Panic mode. They've got everything to lose.

well i would not be that mad. I would be a little upset if it turned out that they were withholding technology that could better our lives, but I believe that the average person would not be able to handle the truth, and chaos would ensue. I would not desttoy whole countries, but there would be a lot of death and property damage if the average citizen suddenly found out that there are aliens that could wipe us out whenever they feel like it

I have seen enough of there technology first hand with my experiences to tell you outright that this technology could be used to goodness but the governments that have gotten there hands on some of this stuff aren't using it all that way.

Instead of world peace they are using it to benefit there purses because of there need for greed and power.

I don't want you to misunderstand me not all governments are evil some are the way they should be.

The governments knows that they will not be allowed to set off all there Nuclear Weapons to destroy this planet, they know they will be shut down by these alien ships but they aren't going to let you know that because the fear keeps the people under control.

They could have gotten S.H., Bin Ladin without the wars but wars are great money makers for them, people have to wake up.

Look at the people in North Korea one man being allowed to do that to all those people. We allow that..... that is why they get away with it.

I believe the problem is we are looking from different prespectives but for myself I observe because this is what I am to do.

This planet doesn't need time, boundries or monies, man did this., it should not have been this way it was free for all. Power from the Sun and winds, water was free for all the soil for growing and sharing was to be free for every human being on this planet.

Instead we have innocent babies/children/adults/elders starving and dying why? It turns my stomach actually to see one human do this to another.

If we all stand together to help each other we can stop this. Stop making the rich, richer. Stop allowing them to control your life control you happiness and freedoms by helping one another just because it's the right thing to do.

I suggest watching the kids movie ANTZ and putting two and two together cause it might be the only thing that puts this planet back to where it need to be to evolve for the good.

Don't forget "Plant Trees" our oxygen supply is in a bad way.

sure it is being hidden from us.. whether its for our own safety or not... we are not ready but as soon as we are... there will be demonstrations... just who knows if it will be real aliens or our govt coming out of space ships teaching us "the way of life"


I know for one... if aliens come friendly stating true religion as any earthly religion i will denounce them also if they intend to release "something" inside me i will not listen since "aliens" are uncomprehendable. they should be teaching us not leading.

it may sound odd but i had a dream last night. well this morning as i was woken up vioently yelling. Aliens came down.. to my home i ran to see them.. they entered my mind told me to be one religion which i disagree with then they in their voices said they would relese another being out of me. then i hear him speak. it curddled my blood the deep satanic like voice... i yelled no! in disbelief! as i woke in my bed fearing it had been more than a dream.

Im not a conspiracy theorist but have my doubts. I cant wait to learn from these beings and prosper from their abudant knowlege more than their harness of technology cus whats technology without enlightened people to acknowledge its benefit.. if any?

I consider myself to be pretty smart, and educated, but the more I learn the more I realize how much I don't know. Some of the things I read are beyond even my ability to believe, and some I have become convinced of either because of personal experience or overwhelming (to me) evidence.

I've devised a system for myself, everything I learn about stuff that most people don't accept as part of 'reality' goes on a continuum, like a number line.

1.....2....3....4....5....6... and so on. At the *1* end of the line is what's least different from accepted truth, and at the high number end is the stuff that's the furthest out from accepted truth. Take Sep 11 for example. At the 1 end of the line, some gov't officials had warning of the attacks and did nothing except make sure their own hides were saved. At the far end, the U.S. govt staged the attacks to further their own agenda and there were no terrorists.

Now, to the point. On the alien 'line', at 1 we have the theory that the gov't knows that some UFOs are real and unexplainable but doesn't want to admit it. On the far end, the whole Earth is controlled by aliens who aren't quite ready to reveal themselves or the truth. In between are some other possiblities, such as:

2 .. the gov't knows that UFOs are extraterrestrials but they've never been able to catch or shoot down one, and they can't admit the truth or our vulnerability.
3.. Roswell was real, and we've had alien technology that we've been back-engineering ever since, but no contact with the ET's.
4.. At least one live alien was recovered from a UFO crash (likely Roswell) and the gov't knows their agenda and who they are, but can't or won't disclose.
5 .. Not only does the gov't have ongoing contact with ET's, but there's a treaty of sorts in place that allows us to get their technology in exchange for them being allowed to conduct abductions, cattle mutilations, etc.
6.. There are aliens on Earth, likely in the US, working with the gov't, and abductions are part of a joint project.

Long about 4 or 5 one gets into an 'AW POOP' category where the gov't would have to admit complicity in the abductions and/or harming of US civilians, not to mention all the cattle taken from farmers. Now if the truth is at about that level or close, the gov't knows there is going to be public outrage and lots of really angry people, people angry enough to actually DO something, and because of that they can't disclose.

One of my ex-husbands was closely related to a very high ranking Navy official, and he has told me that he was taken by said relative to a base (not Area 51, he says that's just a diversion) where he personally saw a partially burned hand that was not human. He had his problems but as far as I knew he was always an honest man, so I believe him.

As much as we have been "prepared" by movies, TV, and books for alien contact, I can only think that the reason there has not been any disclosure yet is because the government is guilty of more than just hiding the reality of ETs and the use of their back-engineered technology. I've believed this for too long to get really angry about it now, but I think there's going to be one heck of an uproar .. and upheaval .. when the truth finally comes out somehow.

In the meantime, I don't trust the government or any of its agencies, and I try to stay 'under the radar' as much as possible. Luckily I'm no one important and pose no real threat beyond talking about my far-out ideas and conspiracy theories at places like this, so I doubt they'll bother to come after me; they'll have bigger fish to fry.

I also think it's fairly pointless to be too angry at any one individual; they get caught in the system and don't have an easy way out. Just like my biological father who was inducted into a Hitler youth group at 12 and forced to kill Jews or suffer humiliating punishment. I'm sure he did terrible things and it affected his whole life, but hating him serves no purpose; he's already a victim too.

I would be a little bit peeved, but then I would get over it. Stuff happens.

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You have read my sighting experience that I posted and what you say of these kids is the same reason I rationalized to myself that an alien craft was not sitting in the sky within a mile of me looking back at me.

It calms my nerves to think it was from a military base and for whatever reason stopped for a couple seconds to check a map. The coincidental balls of white light that concentrically opened and closed in the weeks surrounding the craft sighting I have no explanation for. The amount of stuff I saw within that month had me spooked because it seemed like it was me who kept seeing it. The idea of an advanced, non-human, species keeping tabs on you is plain weird and something I convinced myself was not happening. But for all intents and purposes that was what seemed to be going on.

I did have other people who confirmed they saw balls of white light after I told them to keep an eye out for them and I luckily saw one with a very skeptical, close minded friend while riding in the car. The friend got to see it light up, disappear then light up again after I told him that was what it was going to do. I have had friends see these same balls of light in Colorado lighting up on one mountain, disappearing, then lighting up on another.

I haven't had anyone else see a full fledged craft like I have but the repeatedness of the experiences in that small time frame creeped me out and the disbelief you'll receive is annoying. It breaks your heart to work the nerve up to share with someone that you have seen a ufo craft, not just some blinking lights in the sky that may have been a ufo, and they say you're crazy or having hallucinations. I even had one person say I probably saw the Moller Air Car-WTF?!?! I can totally relate to a woman being raped and no one believing her story. It's traumatic and will stay with me for the rest of my life no matter how little I can prove it really happened.

I'm glad I have seen the things I have seen but also sometimes wish I never had seen them because to others it is just a story that makes me look crazy. I completely feel you on the making the world a better place if this technology was public. I've said it before but sometimes I don't feel like going on living because I'm just watching people trapped in a system of false rewards.

People are trying to make better use of oil and create improved battery powered cars or other improvements that in the grand scope of things is like the caveman being excited they finally made a really kick ass spear as the modern man blows them away with sattelite guided missiles.

People are diluted as to what is really possible and happening.

Thanks for everyone's time, you can make fun of me now.

There is no doubt in my mind that they are hiding information about extra terrestrials, and I can see WHY they would choose to keep this private. People would freak out, there would be a widespread panic. They're afraid they will lose control of the population because things would probably get out of hand. Did anyone see the Larry King live lastnight? He had guests that were ex-military officials who were told to keep their mouth shut about what they had seen over the years.

Spood, I understand what you are saying and yes this type of thing does change you for the rest of your life. Everyone handles things different because that's the way we are as a species.

One thing that has to be relized is there are different beings and people are having different experiences so this is very wide spread.