Organic Portals and Hyperdimensional Attacks - Spotting the energy thieves amongst us.

Originally posted by GirlNextDoor
This thread really has me thinking now. I'm a very creative person (writer and artist) and I'm at my best when I'm focusing on my creativity. But I find these draining individuals crowd into my life just as I'm geared up to start a new project, or making a positive step in my career and feeling really optimistic about everything. I've often thought that strange. I've often joked that I have an antennae for the world's emotions or something. But now...whoa. This thread has me rethinking the whole thing.

OK, that turned into a bit of a couch session.

Anyway, thank you again OP for creating the thread and posting the links. (And for your kind words.)

Yes, I know exactely what you mean. Creative people are targeted, in my opinion, because they are utilising the right hemisphere more than average. Utilising this "artistic" side of the brain quite often leads to a person becomming more spiritual, and therefore subject to attack. Take care of yourself. Thanks for your post.

Originally posted by Jinni
Your experience is common and it is part and parcel with having friends. Perhaps she shouldn't have unloaded everything but maybe you made her feel so supported she felt comfortable telling you more (that's another positive).

From what I gather this was only the second time this lady had met this person. I think offloading all your problems on a second meeting a little too emotionally desperate, don't you? And I disagree that if you have friends you need to endure them whining non-stop like a broken record. That kind of misconcieved notion of friendship leads a kind person to feel emotionally wrecked. I completely believe it is possible to have friends who don't drain your essence. However you make some exceptionally good points as to personal perception of events in my opinion. It is possible to see the good in almost anything. However, you must be aware, like you had said in your previous post about the Djinn, that there is a system in place to stop people from ascending. Thank you for your post.

Originally posted by GideonHM
Well, turns out I ended up attracting virtually every energy paracite I could or could not imagine. Over a year of cleansing and soul searching has allowed me to be free of the hatred poured on me by foul, stupid energies that behaved much like those entities you are speaking of. I have gained a deeper understanding, but the cost was high, and yes you can't truly go back once the veil is lifted. Yet you are still expected to make ends meet, and to handle the collective dream in the best possible way

This resonates highly with my own experience. About a year and a half ago I was enjoying what I would claim as a full-blown spiritual awakening. Nature seemed more vibrant in colour, everything and everyone I saw or met was beautiful, I started relating to people as different kinds of flowers, no ugly ones, just different types. I felt amazing and was walking on a cloud.... Then they went after me, using almost way you can think of to get to me. They couldn't get to me directly as I was in such a haze of love.Instead they got to me by using everyone that was close to me. I have been thouroughly smacked around and psychologically beaten up by these entities for the past year. And now I feel a lot wiser for the experience, and I am completely aware that simple blissful ignorance is not enough to protect. They caught me off guard, it was a tough lesson. I am promoting this information so awakening people here don't have to go through what I went through. Thank you very much for your post.

Originally posted by GriffinRD
That was an interesting post and interesting thread. You have opened many doors down the matrix hallway and exposed powerful delusions. But just like in the movie, you are looking for the door of light, all other doors lead out into the desert. The illusions are powerful and enticing, but if any one thing in them is false, then it is a false path. Like orgone energy. I'm of the opinion that one does not need any orgone style of energy to dissapte clouds. One does not even need to have one's eyes open for it to work.

Orgone energy is synonymous with prana, chi, ki, life-force, force. While I appreciate you may not think you need orgone energy...without orgone energy a human will DIE. I am pretty sure this is explained on the link I provided to www.educate-yourself.org

Originally posted by GriffinRD
There are people, who you might call emotional vampires, who do do this intentionally, but not for some hyperdimsional soul sucking reason. They do it because they have evil in their hearts and minds. Just don't leave your doors open without closing the screen door first.

I am sorry you don't appear to believe in aliens or hyperdimensional beings. If you did you would know that human emotional energy is what they feed on. This topic is posted in Aliens & UFO's forum for that reason. Accusing humans of having evil in their hearts and minds is a reptillian trait, propagated as an excuse to torment the living hell out of us. Who puts the evil in their hearts and minds I wonder? (That question is rhetorical). Thank you for your very insightful post, you reminded me of the way they think.

Originally posted by TheGirlNextDoor
I'm a Christian and I believe in spiritual gifts. I believe I have the gift of mercy. I know there is something about me that invites people to share what's on their mind without my prompting it. I've always chalked it up to my spiritual gift. But I'm also am intrigued by quantum science and in my own research have been looking for how the principles correlate to my religious beliefs.

Whilst I don't consider myself a christian per se, as I believe the bible has been corrupted by centuries of secret societal interference, I do love the teachings Lord Jesus Christ. I was suggest unless you are actually Lord Jesus Christ, then there is no point in martyring yourself to these "demons" operating the the weak minded and genetically incapable.

To expand a little more for clarity, as you mentioned being a christian..

"Left hand path"= Satan, in your belief system.
"Right hand path"= Christ energy, in your belief system.

Let me give another take on this.

"Left hand path" = left hemisphere of the brain.
"Right hand path" = right hemisphere of the brain.
And God in the middle, at the corpus collosum aka 3rd eye.

Now, to expand even futher.

Left hemisphere of the brain= Logic ,
Right hemisphere of the brain = spirituality and creativity.

Lower 4th dimension STS beings are entirely Logic based. (demons)
Highest dimension STO beings are entirely Spiritually based. (angels)
Humans have the ability to reside in the middle and realise God.
We have the choice, we have freewill.

And Lord Jesus Christ (Christ energy) is experienced through the Heart centre. Only those who can love can associate.

I hope this information resonates with you. Take Care.

BOOOM clank CRASH WTF OMG WOAH......the sound of a few hundred lost souls waking up after reading the information I just proivded. Hehe.

Originally posted by Leapass
I know I said this before on a different post, but I died for 25 mins. and spent 6 days in a comma and it took awhile for my head to clear.But I see things in a whole new light. I don't know, it's kinda like looking in from the outside. Great Post Thanks

I heard of this type of experience being life changing, thank you very much for sharing. Take care.

Originally posted by Firefly_
I've had some very weird experiences in my life. One such situation is very similar to another persons who mentioned weird "vampiric" activity at a rave. About 5 years ago at a rave in the midlands, uk, the DJ played a track called "Black Magic" by Breeze & Styles. The music went weird and very hypnotic. Then I realised I was being hypnotised and got up and ran out to shake it off. Freaked me out and I didnt stay long after that. It might also be worthy to note that the DJ's playing the music are very unpleasant people.

Ive had even more weird experiences than that, which right now I dont want to discuss, but could be related to this topic.

There are a few on here who experienced this happening at raves etc. As I said before, in those situations where energy is being discharged on a massive scale, can be alikened to a banquet. It is possible you have something attached to you. Orgonite helps me, I will expand on this subject shortly. Thanks for your post.

Originally posted by predisposed
My question is, what determines an person is an OP or not, and can there be mixed groups in a family?

The thesis suggests that it is indeed possible, please check the links on the front page, this exact subject is described in detail there.

Originally posted by predisposed
I have also been musing over the behaviour of my gf, it really sucks, but I cant help but think, that she could be an OP. I am very cautious as to analyse specifically and in depth before I make a decision, as i dont wont some post on a website to ruin a relationship. But i must fathom if some of her behaviour which i deem suspicous means she is an OP. and if then, what? Can you be in a healthy relationship with one? i think not, or atleast all related info implies so,.

I would greatly appreciate a response here.

I can't make your life descision for you. In my opinion energy draining relationships are detrimental. No matter how good you think the sex is. Try and detect why you are with someone, if it is really love or simply some bodily desire. Real beauty resides within. Sometimes the most beautiful people are not , actually, supermodels.... hehe. Thanks for your post.

Originally psted by free-energy
I think that when you toss one of the buggers out they get very angry and flare up like a madagascer lizard and will lash out but in the end they have no power to stay in a posative place. At least that is what I hope. Maybe by hoping it can be so.

There speaks the voice of experience. Bravo. Stay strong and take care.

Originally posted by Quazga
I've heard some wild rationalizations to answer the question "Why are some people such idiots?" But this one has got to be the most creative!

Thanks for a great laugh, and welcome to ATS!!!

If I can bring joy to just one persons heart, even indirectly. Then I will consider myself as having achieved sucess. You like a laugh, then check this out, instant dismissal of negative entities:

Laughing Yoga at youtube

Originally posted by barriman101
Reading those articles... it can't be denied, we are slaves, most of us don't even know... how do you even begin to fight that?

The key to protection is to absorb all the knowledge you can on the subject, and maintain a degree of levity, you could start by visiting the above link. That guy makes me howl

Originally posted by EnlightenUp
Maybe you shouldn't try this at home but the best way to stop energy thieves is to force feed them till they burst. Watch them run away nauseated and overwhelmed and they'll give you no more trouble.

I agree, I read lots of accounts of Don Croft doing this by focusing his mind onto sending an enormous powerful "tidal wave" of healing blue orgone (life-force) energy at these STS beings, his wife Carol described them as exploding , astrally. Better though , I think , maybe, to just not get involved with combat, just defence. However, for humans, yes , they feel sick and run off hehe. Thank you so much for your post, you said so much truth in so little words. Thank you.

Originally posted by mr-lizard
Not quite sure if i agree with too many of the comments here, some sound like extraordinary explanations of basic human behaviour, some seem extremely paranoid, whilst some do make sense.

I do believe that we resonate an energy (call it electromagnetic/static aura's or whatever) as do all lifeforms such as plants, animals etc...

The idea that some sort of evil force is controlling people and making them drain others isn't quite true in my opinion, as i'm more geared to believe that people are just living in the circumstances of modern living.

Thank you for your opinion. Most people on here believe in "aliens" hence this being posted in the Aliens & UFOs board. And for those that do believe in aliens, most are aware that 4th dimensional STS beings use human emotional soul energy as food. It is well documented for the keen researcher. I appreciate the existence of aliens may be a tough pill to swallow for some, and for others, not so tough. I respect your alternative view. Take care.

Originally posted by _Phoenix_
To the OP, great thread and post.

But I'm not sure I believe in something like this, to be honest it sounds like something made up to try and explain why people are the way they are, why the world is the way it is. So they make something up that would makes sense to them.

That is quite a sweeping statement, if you haven't done so already, I can recommend reading the links I posted.

Originally posted by _Phoenix_
Where's the evidence?

As you wish, here is a quote from www.montalk.net...

Are we alone in the universe?

Of course not. We’re not even alone on earth. Even assuming that a finite 3D universe is all there is, calculations show a high probability that intelligent life exists elsewhere in this galaxy and that earth has seen the presence of extraterrestrials. Anyone with common sense acknowledges this possibility, anyone with an open mind will research the subject, and anyone with open eyes will confirm for themselves that aliens exist, have been active in our past, and continue to be actively involved in human affairs today.

Skeptics tend to be ignorant and refuse to examine all the evidence, closing their eyes and claiming they don’t see any evidence that aliens exist. In truth, ignorance is never proof to the contrary. To put it another way, “Just because your head’s up your ass doesn’t mean the sun don’t shine.”

Evidence is everywhere – from worldwide religious and mythological accounts commonly describing ancient encounters with advanced beings, anomalous archaeological sites and artifacts indicating past use of superior technology, over a century’s worth of eyewitness sightings of UFOs, hundreds of physical trace samples recovered from UFO landing sites, government documents and whistleblowers acknowledging the existence of extraterrestrials, and thousands of abduction cases that include multiple witnesses, memories recalled without hypnosis, and undisputable physical and medical evidence confirming these accounts.

Take care, and thank you for your post.

Originally posted by rickrollz
So I wonder, are these spirits trying to take my energy, or communicate with me? All very weird, and have had many weird experiences in my past. If anyone can direct me to a place where I can talk about these experiences to get a better understanding I would really appreciate it. Thanks again OP for the info.

Thank you for your posts, I would recommend reading the links I posted on the first page and seeing if they resonate with you. No one HAS to believe anything. But the best, individual, approach is to do an almost vast and extensive research on the subjects you are interested in. If you have a particular question that hasn't been answered and you cannot find the answer for , I will try and answer it for you. And if not, I will try and find a link for you. As for recommending anywhere other than ATS to chat, I am pretty sure that might contravene some regulation or something. Thanks for your post.

I've read this thread with great interest. I came across the idea that not all humans are individual souls in a book by Laura Knight Jadczyk.

I find this sort of idea extremely worrying. Are there not enough divisions in the human race already (racism and religious intolerance to name but two) without promoting the idea that some people are not individual souls?

How on Earth can you tell? Are you going to condemn people because you find yourself uncomfortable in their presence or you don't like the way they look at you?

We are all aware of the witch-hunts of centuries ago. Do we want another one of those?

Or, more recently, look at Germany in the 1930s and 1940s.

Animals have suffered for centuries because humans believed they lacked a soul, and acting on this idea were prepared to ill treat them.

There is so much talk about ascension these days, or aliens coming, or you can go back to the bible and its talk of seperating sheep from goats (I think it's goats). Presumably it's desirable to be an individual soul, so most people will insist they are - who decides if they are or are not? And how would people be treated once they were seperated out?

Will all the individually souled persons watch while the 'group souled' are mis-treated or left behind? If you can behave like that where is the value in being an individual soul? At least, at this level.

What if it works the other way round and the individual-souled are mis-treated? Will we all be clamouring to deny our true selves?

I will never be prepared to believe that any living thing has less value or less rights because of the 'quality' or otherwise of its soul. It would be degrading to me to treat any creature with anything less than care and respect.

What I truly believe is that we are all souls - that is our being. We don't 'have' a soul we are the soul, currently inhabiting physical bodies and utilising the everyday personality.

Some souls are in less communication with the everyday personality than others, and it's a good idea for all of us (at 'ground' level) to make a connection with 'our' higher selves (soul) and find our real purpose in life.

I'm not suggesting it's a one way process.

Not everyone can do that, and not everyone wants to. That doesn't make them any less of a soul. Maybe just less evolved, but still with potential.

Take into account too that not everyone will have been educated in the workings / existence of the soul and would find it difficult to 'conjure up' the idea out of nowhere.

Moving on a bit, we need to look at the nature of the soul. A lot of ideas involve it perfecting itself enough that it can go back to be absorbed into the godhead, but that's just one belief.

Supposing that souls are just as individual as people and always will be. No 'seeing the light', maybe just eternally awkward, belligerent, miserable or whatever.

We are eternal beings currently focused on our lives on this planet, in this universe. But that won't always be the case, there'll be other lives and other universes. Some of us will be loving, kindly beings and some won't.

Maybe that's the duality that makes things work the way they do at the moment.

If the balance swings too far one way or another some of us may have to 'play for the other side' once in a while to restore the balance.

Whatever the truth about the way the universe works, and to get back to the original topic. Please stop and think very carefully before embracing the idea that some people are lesser beings because they are not individual souls.

Interesting read, but, like many, it makes me wonder if these beings were really in charge, how long would this inforamtion be allowed to exist? And what about the source? They would most likely have to be a powerful adversary or praying on our fears by adding another new age topic to assimilate.

While I can imagine how some people can be used as some type of portal, I also assume this might be achieved using certain types of implants and do swapping.

Prophecy such as that in the bible refers to the watchers and the beast. A person with multiple or alternate personalities and lost time may suggest this as well. "And these shall be of one mind" etc. Making reference to possession by multiple spirits etc.

Our current medical diagnosis typically labels these as having DID or dissociative identity disorder.

I wonder how those black eyed kids fits in with this?


Even so, I do have my suspicions that there may actually be one species responsible for all of this, but, are also divided as if addicted to our world as if some amusement park.

As having had some personal experience with abductions, sugeries and implants, I have within the last 7 years or so recalled some of many bizarre events as if being a bystander in my own body in a vivd dream or nigtmare. Much of which is referred to as missing time events, repressed memories and delusions.








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Originally posted by berenike
There is so much talk about ascension these days, or aliens coming, or you can go back to the bible and its talk of seperating sheep from goats (I think it's goats). Presumably it's desirable to be an individual soul, so most people will insist they are - who decides if they are or are not? And how would people be treated once they were seperated out?

Will all the individually souled persons watch while the 'group souled' are mis-treated or left behind? If you can behave like that where is the value in being an individual soul? At least, at this level.

What if it works the other way round and the individual-souled are mis-treated? Will we all be clamouring to deny our true selves?

All life is precious and equally important. This post isn't designed to get people to look down on others. It is designed to give the facilty of gaining wider knowledge to persons in general, and, especialy, persons who are waking up. If you read from the links on the first page, you can see that, what are being called Organic Portals have no interest in B influences. These are the fringe topics and spiritual matters contained in these threads. In short, if you are a member of ATS, and you are visiting this topic you have expressed a desire to learn more about this fringe subject. Organic Portals per se would have no interest in gaining information like this. So, the chances are very high, that almost everyone reading this is an individually souled human. Don't go assuming this is the beginning of some sort of witch hunt. That is not the intention, the intention to spread this previously secret knowledge to the masses.

I would also like to add that being an individual soul human can be absolute hell right now, individually souled humans who have woken up sometimes really go through the mill as these outside forces try to stop people being awoken by being in association with them. Lots of people are besides themselves and in a pitiful state emotionally as they cannot tolerate what the world is becomming. The portals couldn't give a darn about anyone other than themselves. If you want to know how to detect personally the key is this:

Do you feel empathy for others or animals, even if masked do you feel the slightest hint of compassion within yourself? If so, congratulations, you probably took birth here to help the collective humans out. Everyone ascends eventually, there is no superiority, it is just the thesis that group souled humans are having to go together. I hope this dispells your concerns. I love all life.

Thank you for sharing your views, it is very much appreciated.

Originally posted by aleon1018
Interesting read, but, like many, it makes me wonder if these beings were really in charge, how long would this inforamtion be allowed to exist? And what about the source? They would most likely have to be a powerful adversary or praying on our fears by adding another new age topic to assimilate.

They aren't really in charge, they are using cunning and extreme logical intelligence to suppress the masses. I agree with lots of the new age being backed by the government. Like I have mentioned previously, no one HAS to believe anything. I personally absorb all the information I can, mix with personal experience and observations,take what resonates with me, and accept it into my reality. If a post only causes someone to look outside of the box I think it's worthwhile. However, you can practically see from the responses in this thread that many many people have personal resonance with the data presented. A few people have mentioned observing being energy syphoned at raves while in an altered state. I would be interested to hear more from those guys. Altered states give someone the ability to see through the veil. I don't advice drugs, meditation works perfectly well. I thank you for your post, and I completely understand how distressing it can be abducted. I hope your torment ends.

Take care and best wishes.

OP (as in Original Poster [grin]),

At first glance I wanted to dismiss this, but went to your links anyway. I found it interesting, and perhaps this has been mentioned in the thread (I haven't the time at the moment to go though it), but this would correspond to The Terra Papers' mention of a DNA strand which imparts passion, called The Gift of the Feather.

I guess I presumed that most humans have it, but according to this, we are about 50/50.

For any unfamiliar with The Terra Papers, they are linked in my sig.

this is my theory on it....
first, you have to seriously consider that there's a "God-source"...whatever you believe that source to be is up to you. but the main point in this God source is that it does feed it's creation continually. we need that energy to exist.
okay, now we have the story of the fallen angels, they decided that they would rather rule, than to be ruled. the failed to overpower the God, and well, they were caste out into the darkness...no more "God-source" to nourish them. For awhile, they actually did half-way decent, but over time, a hunger began to rise up in them, one they didn't actually understand at first...but soon, it became known.....they needed energy from outside their domain to continue....they needed the God-source.
we, being in the physical plane, are given free will, but well, once we leave here. we will have a choice, like those fallen angels did, we will fall into the natural order that the God has set up, and allow it to rule us, or well, will be caste aside, and will face the same fate as those fallen angels. will we rule, or be ruled. and, if we are to be ruled, will be be drained or nourished through that rule? there are those, who, even living in our physical world have managed to set up their own little power system that eliminates the God-source. the husband rules with an Iron thumb, the wife and kids center most of thier attention on him, they get drained, he has his power. the God source is meant to flow through us, be shared amoung us, but some have decided that the natural way that God had set up isn't their way. they don't want to be ruled by him, they want to rule. they want to use others to have more...more power, more wealth, more food, more everything....and they want it badly enough to turn off that flow of energy that sustains them from God. given enough time, their system will be unable to take in the natural energy, it will have to be polluted with more negative energy or it will literally kill them. if you are ever psychically attacked by a demonic spirit, try to channel that pure energy from god to it...see what happens....you could possibly kill the thing!, or change it.

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That right there, in my opinion, was the best post I've seen yet. I wish there was a gold star function. Thanks for that, and much blessings.

Originally posted by Amaterasu
OP (as in Original Poster [grin]),

At first glance I wanted to dismiss this, but went to your links anyway. I found it interesting, and perhaps this has been mentioned in the thread (I haven't the time at the moment to go though it), but this would correspond to The Terra Papers' mention of a DNA strand which imparts passion, called The Gift of the Feather.

I guess I presumed that most humans have it, but according to this, we are about 50/50.

For any unfamiliar with The Terra Papers, they are linked in my sig.

I've read the Terra Papers, they are very interesting and informative in my opinion. And I see a lot of correlation between what you mention and the subject matter discussed here. Off the top of my head what you are mentioning about the gift of the feather sounds interesting. If you find any more comparisons please let us know. And no it hadn't been mentioned previously in this thread, thanks for bringing it up! & Thank you for your post.

To TrueLight

Thank you for your response. I am sure you would not advocate a witch-hunt, but look at some of the responses you have received.

Just on this forum you have had people raising suspicions about strangers on the train or in clubs, family members and others close to them. And on the 'evidence' of an article on the internet and some odd feelings.

I know very well about life being hell on Earth.

I did read the link you provided and I found it very disturbing.

I don't mind a good conspiracy theory, so I'll try this one:

Aliens really do intend to take over the Earth very shortly but they need humanity to co-operate to make their task easier. How might they go about this? Divide the human race by giving them the idea that there are those with individual souls and those with group souls. Then watch as one group are rounded up and the other group stands silently by because 3 billion+ people have been designated different from the other 3 billion+.

An alternate theory:

The NWO wants to thin out the poplulation. Get rid of the 'useless eaters'.
But they need humanity to co-operate to make their task easier. Now in this day and age they can't do what the Nazis did because few people will agree to put so-called inferior races, gay people, or the mentally less able into concentration camps. What can they do? See above.

The thing to do is not designate some beings as 'not interested' in this sort of discussion because they are group souled. Better to look for what we have in common and how we can help each other. And stick together. We never know when we will appreciate the help of those who we think of as different from ourselves.

There are a lot of ideas that might seem 'high minded' at first, but by the time they filter down to the 'lowest common denominator' they are ripe for exploitation and misinterpretation. This idea of individual souls and group souls, even if it were correct, has the potential to cause a lot of mischief.

I'd ask again, seriously, who would make the judgement? If it's based on no more than uncomfortable feelings around another person, then that's not enough. A system like that is too open to abuse. And how would a person appeal if they disagreed with the verdict on whether or not they were individually souled?

Last thing - it was not my intention to insinuate that you personally did not love or care for all beings.

Originally posted by berenike
To TrueLight

Thank you for your response. I am sure you would not advocate a witch-hunt, but look at some of the responses you have received.

Yes I see you have a valid point, the site I linked to does advise not to use these means of detection to hunt people down as such.

Just on this forum you have had people raising suspicions about strangers on the train or in clubs, family members and others close to them. And on the 'evidence' of an article on the internet and some odd feelings.

I personally have come face to face with interdimensions several times, so for me, at least personally I see no speculation. Energy sensitive people can feel energy if they have advanced in psychic abilities. People with auric sight can actually see that these people don't give off the same glow as others.

I don't mind a good conspiracy theory, so I'll try this one:

Aliens really do intend to take over the Earth very shortly but they need humanity to co-operate to make their task easier. How might they go about this? Divide the human race by giving them the idea that there are those with individual souls and those with group souls. Then watch as one group are rounded up and the other group stands silently by because 3 billion+ people have been designated different from the other 3 billion+.

I think the aliens want to suppress individually souled humans into slavery by altering their DNA, therefore trapping them here, in 3rd density. But you presented a good theory.

An alternate theory:

The NWO wants to thin out the poplulation. Get rid of the 'useless eaters'.
But they need humanity to co-operate to make their task easier. Now in this day and age they can't do what the Nazis did because few people will agree to put so-called inferior races, gay people, or the mentally less able into concentration camps. What can they do? See above.

I think it this day and age they are actually planning to eliminate 5.5 BILLION humans. Just out of interest have you seen the georgia guidestones?

Georgia Guidestones at wiki


Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature
Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
Unite humanity with a living new language.
Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a one world court
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Balance personal rights with social duties.
Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.

Georgia guidestones, words in the wind? think Buddhist Prayer flags...

The thing to do is not designate some beings as 'not interested' in this sort of discussion because they are group souled. Better to look for what we have in common and how we can help each other. And stick together. We never know when we will appreciate the help of those who we think of as different from ourselves.

I agree, absolutely, 100% with sticking together. And if someone is causing irritation due to their external manipulation, we can detect it. And help them by deflection their energy, or being compassionate, or walking away.

Originally posted by berenike
To TrueLight

There are a lot of ideas that might seem 'high minded' at first, but by the time they filter down to the 'lowest common denominator' they are ripe for exploitation and misinterpretation. This idea of individual souls and group souls, even if it were correct, has the potential to cause a lot of mischief.

Yes, it does have potential to cause mischief. It is almost a paradox the way you have explained it. Do we let ourselves be abused, or do we become aware so that we may better serve our fellow man(or woman :p)

I'd ask again, seriously, who would make the judgement? If it's based on no more than uncomfortable feelings around another person, then that's not enough. A system like that is too open to abuse. And how would a person appeal if they disagreed with the verdict on whether or not they were individually souled?

Yes granted, as people wake up properly they will have the skills to detect in a much more definite way, like a lot of people currently are. Supposition on these important matters will not be a benefit to anyone.

Last thing - it was not my intention to insinuate that you personally did not love or care for all beings.

I can completely believe that , you seem like a very genuine and compassionate person. Thank you for your post. I can't tell you how giving this information out will pan out, I just know it should be given out.

Matrix Quote

I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone, and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without you. A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you.

Matrix quote from the film and - www.imdb.com...

Many thanks for your post, and many blessings to you, take care.

To TrueLight

Thank you for a very interesting discussion.

My very best to you, too.

Oh.

SO thats why a person will jump on someone elses case for no clear reason and not let go.

Thats why my sister goes off on these shopping and crying jags.

How do you get those beasties to back off?

We really oughtta know.


sarc

I think I should cover Orgone energy, and its believed ability to halt hyperdimensional attacks. Especially as I mentioned I would earlier. Firstly you can make it at home for pence, or cents. Depending on your location. Here is a link to some information which goes a little way to explain its applications in preventing hyperdimensional attacks. Plenty of links for researchers on google.

www.orgonite.info...

This is just the first one that popped up in google for me, there are many many sites and youtube vids on the subject, including sites on the life of Dr Wilheim Reich and his assasination by the illuminati.

If you type Orgonite, or Orgone into Google, you will find much more information than would be necessary for me to give on a topic about hyperdimensional attacks. I wish to keep within my own topic boundaries. In my opinion this goes a long way to transmuting negative energy into positive. This is just one of many ways you can protect yourselves from this onslaught of hyperdimensional nonsense.

I hope this information is useful to you.

It is very very easy to make at home....

Originally posted by sarcastic

Oh.

SO thats why a person will jump on someone elses case for no clear reason and not let go.

Thats why my sister goes off on these shopping and crying jags.

How do you get those beasties to back off?

We really oughtta know.


sarc

Just by obtaining knowledge you can prevent attacks. There is a system of causality in place that works to this end. Levity also helps , despite the fact that the information here maybe a little eye-opening initially, it is good to keep an up-beat attitude. And if someone jumps on you next time you will be able to smile politely and not let it affect you. Failing that visit my above link , and look into making your own orgonite for protection.