JFK missed Brain, the key of his death's mystery:supressed or Destroyed Evidence?

reply to post by TeslaandLyne

Peace be to ya.
According to "JFK II" video or one of those conspiracy videos
on youtube about JFK, Oswald was picked by J. E. Hoover to
find the Cuban Anti Communist Campaign Camps which he did.



Well, Oswald is a figure that has been always surrounded by a mystery, a huge one that is not possible to explain easily;

How could be a man that went to Russia supposely fell in love of the Communist system, that also married a Soviet Citizen, the daughter of a member of the KGB, and that in the American Consulate in Moscow decided to return his passport and resignate to his American citizenship, laterly be able to return to the country and be accepted,as if nothing of this have happened, to continue living a normal life in Dallas??.

The only possible way to understand this situation is the one stated by Jim Garrison, District Attorney of New Orleans, that Oswald acted in soviet Union as a CIA spy, since only a person in that role may be able to return to America with such record.

If that would be the case, of course Lee H. Oswald was just a Patsy, as he himself told to the journalists in Dallas a little after his arrest, and he may be completly Innocent of the homicide charges.

It is quite interesting to underline that, being a known scholar of Predictions & Prophecies as I have been here in ATS for the last 4 years, also a relatively successful clairvoyant, I cannot pass this opportunity to recall the famous prophecy of Nostradamus in which the french seer clearly stated that an Innocent would blamed if this crime:

The ancient work will be accomplished,
And from the roof evil ruin will fall on the great man:
They will accuse an innocent, being dead, of the deed:
The guilty one is hidden in the misty woods.
(Century 6, Quatrain 37) Mitchell of Nostradamus

Of course if you ask me directly if I am convinced that Oswald was not the man that killed JFK, my answer would be that he was only a patsy, the best could be, since he had all the needed personal background to bias any possible investigation in the direction that the organized Crime was looking for: to create a huge confrontation with Cuba and The USSR.

By the way also in the TV series The Men Who Killed Kennedy, that I mentioned before, there is an episode in which his widow Marina Oswald insists in his innocence:

www.youtube.com...


Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness



[edit on 2/11/2010 by The angel of light]

Want to know who was behind the Kennedy Assination Coverup ? The C.I.A was envolved of course , but this story goes deeper than that ...


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AoL,

While the family no longer had to protect JFK's political career, as you stated, RFK was Attourney General at the time. He would also go on to run for President. The Kennedy family was the closest thing to royalty the USA had and many citizens saw them as such. They certainly did have a lot to protect.

I dont believe that LHO ascted alone in Killing JFK. I doubt he even fired shots that day. But the "missing" brain is not the best evidence for conspiracy. IMO it is merely a red herring. I may make a post outlining some of the most common myths about the assassination based on my research and my conversations with other interested parties.

reply to post by ChiliDog

I dont believe that LHO ascted alone in Killing JFK. I doubt he even fired shots that day. But the "missing" brain is not the best evidence for conspiracy.


Hi Chilidog,

The brain is actually the most crucial evidence to show that the faltal shot, the last one came from the front and right side of the President and not from behind him.

Anyway your observations are acute, if we consider that this piece of evidence could be hidden during the brief RFK campaign to the Presidency, but how about after it ended also fataly?.

There is something that does not match at all with your theory, and it is that after the assassination of RFK, and moreover after the Chappaquiddick scandal it was quite clear that non other Kennedy, of that Generation at least, will be in the White house.

So it was precisely in that epoch that the House of Representatives commision arrived to the conclusion that it might be a conspiracy around the Assassination of JFK, as well it is obvious that around the one of RFK, so how can be still important to hide that so important evidence to the Public?

How could the Kennedy Clan, following your hypothetic explanation, continue with that supposed game when two relevant members of the family were killed and the accident of Chappaquiddick, that could be also arranged by the conspiracy, can even represent a clear attempt against the life of Ted Kennedy?

I don't think so , that does not make sense at all, the Kennedys must be the most interested people in America to discover the plot and claim for Justice on the 1970's.

One thing it is clear:

or we are dealing with a huge conspiracy to hide the facts of November 22nd 1963
or with an incredible series of very improbable coincidences have happened to creat that impression:

Think in what can be the probability to have just for chance all the tragic deaths of all the relevant liberal leaders of the 1960's: JFK, RFK, Malcom X, Martin Luther King, always executed by lonely crazy Assassins, plus the "accident" of Edward Kennedy.

It is extremly low, one in one million perhaps.

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness

The Peace of God to all that belong to the light,
Dear Readers,

Returning to the discussion of all the speculations that have been released through the Media, specially by the so called researchers of the Conspiracy theory, concernig from what direction was shot the President's head, if from behind or from in Front, I think it is extremly important to see what consistency exhibit the film of Abraham Zapruder with them.

Zapruder's Film, the only photographic record of the assasination shows in its frame Number 313 the instant of impact of the fatal shot, that for some researchers was the second, the third or even there are people suggesting that could be the fourth one against the Presidential limousine.

If we check carefully what happen from that precise frame 313 to the frame 330 we can see clearly that there is initially the explosion of the crane of JFK, with the subsequent exposure of important part of the brain's tissue, but the most intriguing part if that if we stop the film in each one of the frames of that part of the film we can verify which part of the skull was removed by the impact.

The frames can not lie, the skull that was removed by the shot was the one located in the right frontal bone, watch carefully and following the motion of the head of JFK once the shot was already done falling toward his wife Jacqueline, we can see clearly that the only hole in the Presidents head is frontal but never in the back, as many have claimed through years supporting the theories of some conspiracy among the Bethesda physicians to alter the photographic record of the Autopsy.

Again, the Zapruder Films never showed any kind of exit hole in the Occipital area of the head of the President, as was stated by at least three different persons that supposely participated in the Autopsy practised in Dallas, you can watch their testimonies in the TV series The Men that killed Kennedy, and that is so interesting, since this could reveal if there has been conspiracy, that we would be talking about not one, but at least two , going in two opposite directions.

Let me explain my point:

- One conspiracy supposely was the one to blame Lee Harvey Oswald as the only assassin, the one that for years have been circulating in many independent media, like the one that has produced TV series like The Men killed Kennedy or even in the famous Film JFK of Oliver Stone.

- The other conspiracy is the appearant myth created by some persons, which interest I am trying to decipher, to try to show that the conspiracy to kill JFK was followed by other one to alter his body or the photos taken to it once dead, and in which the Warren comission may be also involved.

That second supposed plot among the medical personal of Bethesda is completly exposed as false with the analysis of the frames after the 313 in Zapruders Film, especially the 320's to even the 336 since there is no image on it that shows any big exit hole of bullet in the back of JFK's head, in fact the scalp of that part ,with the abundant hair of the President, clearly look absolutely intact.

Being no hole in the back of the scalp, there is only one possibility that is the shot, if it was comming from the front removed the frontal skull, something that I think is quite dubious , but anyway I would want to know opinions of shooters,

or,

the fatal shot was also done from behind, although, and that is something new, not in the angle of the depository of books, but from some other building located in the diagonal, seeing from Zapruders position, that in my opinion must be Dallas criminal records building, or Dallas county criminal courts building or pehaps the Old court house.

This sounds ironic after all, since if there was a second shooter, it might be located in the other extreme of Dealey Plaza, in the opposite corner of that triangule, and that other Assassin shoted almost from the left side of the Presidents head. The reason for which It couldn't be from the book depository is obvious, since if that might be the case, the skull removed by the impact most be not the right side of the frontal bone but the central part of it.

This also clarifies the surgery that appearantly was practised in Dallas to the head, and that again is used by some conspiracy supporters, to say that the body was altered with criminal purposes, since that operation had the only objective to try to put the skull in its place and close the wound of the bullet, that look to be exit and not entrance of it.

In Zapruders film, although it is clear that there is a motion of the head backward on the instant of the impact, shows that the only skull removed by it was in front and right above of the head, and never in the occipital area. This also discharges the positon from which supposely Oswald was shoting, since any shot from that windows of the Book depository might enter the head from the right occipital area toward the left frontal one.

I think there is also some touch of additional irony in all this myth of conspiracies from one side and the other, that JFK ruled America all the time defying the two extremes of the political life, the extreme radical left side, always claiming for anarchy and systematic discredit of the democratic institutions, and from the other side the reactionary of the extreme Right trying to oppose to any social change in favor of the more needed people of the country.

so Now we can see that even in death JFK is still fighting in the two sides, since his assassination is being used for both to support their own causes.

My opinion is that the truth is in some place in the middle of all this turmoil agitated by the war between the radical media and the official one, yes there was possibly conspiracy to kill Kennedy, even to blame and innocent man of his death, but also it looks clear that there was another one trying to use his death to destroy the American Democracy, the one for which JFK worked so Hard during his 1000 days term, to bring us to a complete anarchy.

Again, I ask for the People previously to reply to this post to examine carefully the frames 313 to 300 of Zapruders film that are permanently exhibit in different parts of Youtube, here for instance there is an excelent close up:

www.youtube.com...

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness



[edit on 3/10/2010 by The angel of light]

A mock trial with Gerry Spence interviewing the autopsy technician.

Well in forming a conspiracy theory, if something is missing
then its important.
The right forehead bullet entrance and right side of brain with
exploding bullet fragments might not fit in the Illuminati lies
we got handed to us.

Missing information helping other causes would be von Braun's
passport with pre WWII locations (unless he came to America
under a pseudonym) and Patton's Army record at the Baltic Sea.

I'm wondering if anyone has ever entertained that JFK's brain tissue was subject to brain tissue transplant? I'm aware of classified research with unwitting children who suffer epilepsy, and wonder if JFK's brain tissue was
used for covert human experimentation. Just a thought.

What was left of Jfk's brain was removed before he got to Bethesda, as well as the neck shot bullet from the front.


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[edit on 26-7-2010 by Sargoth]

Originally posted by Sargoth
What was left of Jfk's brain was removed before he got to Bethesda, as well as the neck shot bullet from the front.


www.youtube.com...



[edit on 26-7-2010 by Sargoth]

Another case of state secret liars.
The Space Sham.
Tesla aircraft.
Shakespeare wrote all those plays.
There must be a whole lot more to be found before the Tesla robots
take over government.
Then, liar robots.

reply to post by The angel of light

The Peace of God to all that belong to the light,
Dear Readers,

After four years that this thread was open by me in a clear suggestion that new revelations were going to come that might clarify a lot the existence of a huge conspiracy that ended with the life of two Presidents of the United states, one in the office John Fitzgerald Kennedy, and other still on campaign but being he favorite of the people to be elected in 1968 Senator Robert Francisc Kennedy, finally the events I foresaw are now real facts that are giving a brilliant new light over the sad events of the 1960s.

When a Statement is assassinated always there have been speculations around the crime, and that is something that is normal specially when the victim was one of the most beloved leaders of the country, when his horrible death happened in the least expected moment, at the time he was in the peak of his popularity and when it happened in the state of Texas, that was clearly marked by the hatred against him promoted by various of the pressure groups that were pressed by his administration, for their reaction against the great national insterests in the time of the second American Revolution.

However, in the case of JFK, the death of his brother, that was also his personal adviser during his years in the White house, just only 5 years later, also doing campaign to be President, and also the two so suspicious "accidents" that his other younger brother Senator Edward Kennedy experienced that put his life a so serious risk on the end of the 1960's, it is practically impossible following the law of probabilities to attribute all these facts just to mere coincidences, and to think that the most plausible hypothesis is of course a plot.

The events that are now giving new light to the research of how was that conspiracy and who took part on it, are:

- the finding of witnesses that locate Richard Nixon personal advisor E.howad Hunt in Dealy Plaza in November 22nd of 1963,and that confirm the death bed confession of the ex Cia agent of his participation in a plot inside goverment agencies that might exist to eliminate JFK in Dallas. ( pls check: whatreallyhappened.com...) and ( www.rense.com...) and ( weblog.timoregan.com...)

- With the confession of Howard Hunt as being part of a plot of Cia against JFK, he became the second of the collaborators of Richard Nixon to be undoubtfully located in Dallas in November of 1963, since the very first one was the murderer of Lee Harvey Osward, the so famous Jack Ruby that apart of to had a very long career linked with the maffia worked For Nixon in his years in the congress. ( please read www.jfkmurdersolved.com...)

- The new elements discovered by researchers that put in evidence that the death of JFK jr might not be necesarily an airplane accident after all. ( Pls check: whatreallyhappened.com...) or ( www.washingtonpost.com...)
or (surftofind.com...)

- The systematic denial of former President George H Bush to have been present in Dealy plaza, Dallas, the 22nd of November of 1963 when indeed there is photographic material that seems to show that he was not only in the city but certainly in the scene of the crime as a Cia agent,and also when his name appears in a FBI memo signed by Edgar J Hoover in which it is stated that he was really there. ( pls check tomflocco.com...)

- This of course should make GHB as the second republican President being present in Dallas that fatal day, since it is very well known since many years ago that Richard M Nixon was in the city supposedly as a lecturer for a cycle of conferences he was offering to the Pepsi Co offices in that city. ( please check www.prouty.org...) and (www.assassinationresearch.com...) and (mtracy9.tripod.com...)

- Everybody remembers that there was another former republican President in Dallas, Gerald Ford, personal friend of Nixon since that epoch, but on the weeks after the assasination as the youngest member of the special Warren commision that supposedly had the mission to investigate the assassination and that produced the polemic official report that disconnected Lee Harvey Oswald of any possible plot and so acting as a lonely assessin, responding to the clear pressure of President Lyndon B Johnson to do so. ( pls check: whatreallyhappened.com...) and (www.washingtonpost.com...) and (www.informationliberation.com...)

- The so called Jacky O tapes that expose her personal convictions that the death of his husband was the result of a huge conspiracy and that might be known and perhaps even promoted by Lyndon B Johnson ( please read www.dailymail.co.uk...)

- Now, finally the decission of a key witness on the assassination of RFK to talk openly that her testimony was highly distored by the CIA and FBI , about what actually happened the night of the crime in California,and in which she sustains now that there is no doubt in her mind that there was a second shoter in the kitchen of the hotel.
(please check: news.yahoo.com...)

Therefore, dear readers, the advance in the search for the truth in what appears now as the most possible horrendus political conspiracy ever occured in America, has gained incredible momentum on these last days,as I predicted that might happen so soon in 2008 when I started this thread.


thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness

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The Peace of God to all that belong to the Light,

Dear readers,

When I started this thread years ago, I was absolutely convinced that we were approaching a time in which incredible atonishing revelations were going to oocur, that were going to definitively prove the nature and the magnitude of the conspiracy that finished with the the life of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy on November 22nd 1963.

Well, the facts have even surpassed my most ambitious expectation on this sense, and we have seen a lot of almost incredible new facts that have uncovered a terrible truth, that might be hidden for five decades, at least we can refer to them in that way thinking in the level of secrecy that this business had in the past,

First we have the death bed confession of Howard Hunt, one of the key men of Nixon that were incriminated in the traspassing of the Watergate Building during the Democratic convention of 1972, that was also photographed in Dealy Plaza on November 22nd 1963. Hunt, that was long time suspicious of be involved in the assassination, confesssed the existence of the plot and moreover the supposed commandment of the coverup by President Lyndon B Johnson.

Pls read.

www.prisonplanet.com...

rense.com...

Here the direct implication of LBJ in the Crime by Howard Hunt in an interview a little before his death:

www.youtube.com...

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Then, we have the very revealing book of Lamar Waldron that includes definitive statements that supposedly come from Carlos Marcello, a god Father of the Maffia of New Orleans, that confessed to him to have taken part in the plot to kill JFK.

Pls read:
www.nypost.com...

Finally the sensational book of Roger Stone, former functionary of the NIxon Administration, who is pointing with his finger against LBJ and Richard Nixon himself as principal figures behind the supposed plot for the assassination and ulterior coverup of what might be fine orchested coup d'etait against Kennedy.

Pls read:
now.msn.com...

dailycaller.com...

www.thedailybeast.com...

We have now a very complete picture of a Conspiracy that might link well known leaders of the Maffia, The CIA, Edgar J Hoover with also well known first line politicians, all rivals of Kennedy, including three Presidents of the USA: Richard Nixon, Lyndon B Johnson as well as Gerald Ford, as the youngest member of the Warren comission, that would manufacture the report that facilitated the coverup of the truth.

This is depicted now, when we are approaching the 50 aniversary of the Assassination, with incredible aboundance of details in the website of the Marry Ferrell foundation, as you can see in the following link:

www.maryferrell.org...

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness

It's positive that you posted the Mary Ferrell link however it's doubtful anyone here will be interested. For the life of me I can't think of anything evidenced based that a man like Roger Stone can add to the final government investigation. There are over 100 books, many more than 30 years old, that cover the same hearsay about Nixon and LBJ. They are simply irreverent to the investigation and if people want to buy this book that is fine however it's just more of the same he said she said.

It's even more difficult to understand why a publisher would put out a book, assuming it's to be taken seriously, then tout a man's owing of a 'swingers club' as some sort of academic accomplishment.

Puzzling to say the least. Who knows? It might even help sell it in this sex obsessed age. To each his own I guess however it won't be taken seriously in the research community.

Stone claims:

"Nixon knew Jack Ruby, hired him on House payroll in 1947 at request of... Lyndon Johnson"

Can't wait to see the documentation on that.

At the time Ruby was selling Vacuum cleaner attachments door to door in Dallas-along with costume jewelry. His club the 'Seller' was padlocked by the Dallas police in May 1947 on orders from the IRS for back taxes and for liquor and prostitution related charges.

Just the kind of person an up and coming politician needs on his staff.

The Peace of God To all that belong to the Light,
Dear Readers,


In 1956, for an interview in Parade magazine, the famous astrologer Jeane Dixon was asked to predict the results of the 1960 presidential election. "As for the 1960 election Mrs. Dixon thinks it will be dominated by labor and won by a Democrat. But he will be assassinated or die in office 'though not necessarily in his first term.'

She said he would be tall and young and have thick brown hair and blue eyes.

The journal Current Biography reported in 1973, ''She contends that she actually told her interviewers that he would be assassinated but they refused to print it.''

Mrs. Dixon, who was a devout Roman Catholic, also said she had based her prophecy on a vision she had in 1952 while she was praying.

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness

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The Peace of God to all the belong to the Light,
Dear Readers,


In her book, My Life and Prophecies, Jeane Dixon gives an account of a vision she had some time in 1952.

"I remember standing in front of the statue of the Virgin Mary, when suddenly the White House appeared before me in dazzling brightness. Coming out of the haze, the numerals 1-9-6-0 formed above the roof. An ominous dark cloud appeared, covering the numbers, and dripped slowly onto the White House...then I looked down and saw a young man, tall and blue eyed, crowned with a stock of thick brown hair, quietly standing in front of the main door. I was still staring at him when a voice came out of nowhere, telling me softly that this young man, a Democrat to be seated as President in 1960, would be assassinated while in office."

This was, according to Jeane Dixon, a revelation by God of a future event, but the first time it appears in print is four years later and not in the same context.

Here the complete account of how she receive the revelation, and how she tried in different occasions to prevent the President to dont travel to Texas.

Jeane Dixon vision of JFK Death

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness

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The Peace of God to all that belong to the light,
Dear Readers,


Was Jeane The only person that predicted JFK assassination?

well certainly not, even a series of apparantly unexplainable coincidences existed in between his life, his profile and the one of another President Assassinated a century before him. Lincoln was elected first time for as a congressman in 1846, JFK in 1946, Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860, JFK in 1960, both picked up southern democratic vicepresidents with last name Johnson, the names of their two supposed assassins both had 13 letters, The limousine in which Kennedy was shot was a Lincoln Continental, Lincoln was a division of the Ford Motor company, Lincoln was shot in the Ford Theater, Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy who told him not to go to the theatre; Kennedy personal secretary for a decade was named Evelyn Lincoln who warned him not to go to Dallas. Both Presidents were killed in the presence of their wives and accompanied by another couple.

It is curious but in the so famous Twitlight zone original Tv series in 1960 there was an episode about a Leutenant Fitzgerald that fought in the Phillipines, was able to predict the exact day of the death of each of his soldiers, until his own one, while riding in a convertible car. Middle name of JFK was Fitzgerald, and he fought in WWII in the Pacific close to Phillipines waters, where his boat was sunk by the japanese forces, he spent various days floating in open sea. Finally, He died in Dallas while riding in a convertible car.

Twightlight zone episode The Purple heart foresaw JFK death

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness

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The Peace of God to all that belong to the Light,
Dear Readers,


Mitchel of Nostradamus, the seer of Provence, has also various quatrains that refer, as it is said, to crucial moments of the JFK administration:

President Kennedy, L.B.J, and the Cuban Missile Crisis
(Quatrain 4-14)

"La mort subite du premier person-nage.
Aura change et mis un autre au regne:
Tot, tard venu a si haut et bas age,
Que terre et mer faudra qu’on le craigne."

The sudden death of the first personnage will have caused change
and put another into sovereignty.
Soon, but late come to so high a position, of young age,
such as by land and sea it will be neccesary to fear him.

In a prophecy indexed 1 Q26, Nostradamus in 1555 wrote:

Le grand du fouldre tumbe d’heure diurne,
Mal & predict par porteur postulaire:
Suiuant presage tumbe d’heure nocturne,
Conflict Reims, Londres, Etrusque pestifere.

The great man will be struck down in the day by a thunderbolt,
The evil deed predicted by the bearer of a petition
According to the prediction another falls at night time.
Conflict in Reims, London, and pestilence in Tuscany.

(notice that second verse, it was "predicted by the bearer of a petition",other translations say "foretold by a popular rumor" :Jeane Dixon requested as well as Evelyn Lincoln to JFK to cancel his trip to Texas)

Finally, the most outstanding of all, Century 6 quatrain 37

L'oeuvre ancienne se parachevera,
Du toict cherra sur la grand mal ruyne,
Innocent faict mort on accusera,
Nocent cache, taillis a la bruyne.


An ancient re-happening shall be accomplished,
From the roof (of a building) the life of a great one shall be ruined,
An innocent will be accused of his death,
The guilty one (Nocent, meaning non innocent) hidden in tall misty woods.

Nostradamus predictions on JFK administration

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness

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The Peace of God to all that belong to the Light,
Dear Readers,


Both Presidents Kennedy and Lincoln, it is well known, got clear premonitions of their early deaths. Lincoln dreamed on his own funeral and JFK gave a lot of comments about feeling a death danger , some in Joke, someothers very concerned about the risks of his duties, since a year before.

In his very last prophetic statement just hours before his death, Kennedy saw a startling picture of himself in a full page ad in the Dallas newspaper published by Ted Dealey (as in Dealey Plaza). Kennedy's picture was ominously bordered in black like an announcement of mourning. It was paid for by a major hate-Kennedy organization based in Dallas. It included a "Wanted for Treason" page complete with a "criminal profile" of Kennedy. Upon seeing the ad, Kennedy's face turned grim and he turned to his wife and said they were "heading into nut country today."

Kennedy and Lincoln incredible syhchronicities and parallelisms

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness