The point of knives

The point of knives

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The proposal came from three emergency medicine specialists, and it's a simple one: getting rid of the points on the ends of longer kitchen knives.

Drs Emma Hern, Will Glazebrook and Mike Beckett wrote an editorial in the British Medical Journal, suggesting that since "many assaults are impulsive", government action could "drastically reduce the availability" of a "potentially lethal weapon".

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[edit on 16-7-2008 by bodrul]

this is jokes, some people are proposing they take the points off Kitchen Knives so they are less leathal to people and the chicken breasts

one can imagine how far they would like to go

so Knive crime is a problem

will we be going down a another 1997 when they banned most firearms which was suppose to reduce gun crime?

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[edit on 16-7-2008 by bodrul]

Wow this is getting ridiculous. If someone is going to kill someone, they're just going to do it. Knife or not.

It's truly pathetic.

reply to post by bodrul


Yes, I am sure that would stop the people who tend to stab people from doing it anymore. Making a knife sharp would be an impossible feat once they have clipped the ends off of the kitchen knives. The stabbing problem in the UK is at an end!

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What a ridiculous idea. It brings to mind the image of Steve Martin in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.

Dunno, it'll probably cut off a few impulse stabs with kitchen knives, sure.
Since most of the people getting stabbed outside of the house are getting knifed with whatever knife they have on 'em, i doubt that'll do mor ethan curb it a bit.
Besides, knives don't need to loose the point completly, amke it more angled, like for chopping, instead of a needle point.
Anyway, lemme go back to sharpening my hunting/fillet/belt/pocket/folding/swiss/ect knives.
One last thing: Anyone notice if you drop a steak knife, generally it's always pointed straight down, and generally straight at your foot?

reply to post by Karlhungis


better get the corks out!

Seriously? That has to be the dumbest idea I have seen in a while!

The solution to crime is the increase of education. It's as simple as that. The better educated the populace the less crime there is. A well educated populace will more than likely have the tools at their disposal to resolve conflicts with words instead of actions.

I say FORK em all!

I often wonder what compells someone sitting around thinking of ways to solve the world's problems to come up with these ideas. They must be so far removed from reality as they clearly can't think this all the way through. They tend to steer clear of the "human" element involved in all these types of discussions.

Fix the humans not the utensils!

Geesh

Becker

Does anyone actually read the crime stats anymore???

knife crime accounts for about 8% of all violent crime and has remained static for the last 10-15 years.

The only thing we have seen is a shift in the ages of knife crime victims from the 18-25 range to the 14-18 range - so the only change is that older people use knives less, and younger people use knives more.

This media hysteria about an "epidemic" is just so much poo on the end of a stick, and it's getting on my bloody nerves.

Great . good idea . Get rid of the point on the end of knives. Tell you what Government thinktank, use my idea.
Get rid of knives altogether. NO KNIVES AT ALL.
That way we can cut food with the edge of the fork instead if you put a serated edge to it . We'll have to use 2 knorks to eat with but I think I'd be ok in that knowing that I'm not gonna get stabbed to death....
Failing that if you get rid of the point we can all butter ourselves to death...
Or maybe spoons may be classed as a lethal weapon next time?.

Knives are like guns, their TOOLS. its not a weapon unless you put it in the wrong hands..
Instead of taking the point off the knive , drive the point of knives into the kids at school. ( not literally) By teaching them it ain't cool or tough to have a knive, its a cowards way of trying to intimidate someone.

[edit on 16/7/2008 by DataWraith]

This whole Knife culture that is going on is mad!!!
why has the goverment not reacted quicker to it ?

I am reminded of a south park episode where Cartman tried to kill Kyle with a wiffel bat.

Originally posted by budski
Does anyone actually read the crime stats anymore???
knife crime accounts for about 8% of all violent crime and has remained static for the last 10-15 years.

This media hysteria about an "epidemic" is just so much poo on the end of a stick, and it's getting on my bloody nerves.

In Australia, we have seen the exact same thing in regards to alcohol. The newspapers got bored and decided to launch a campaign against 'binge drinking' (having more than 3 beers in one night, according to the government ) a few months ago, and now we are paying almost twice as much for alcopops due to some hasty and ill-conceived tax, and inner-city bars and clubs are not allowed to let people in after 2 a.m.
Personally, it peeves me off on two fronts: that the media feels that it is allowed to twist the facts, but also that people were stupid enough to swallow what the media was saying, hook line and sinker.
It effects me directly as well, which kinda sucks. I happen to like double black labels and UDLs on certain nights.

There are many many other, much more effective ways, of combating knife crime. Yes, a knife is a weapon, but no more so than what a hammer has the potential to be.
Knives to not kill people. People kill people.

Since we're apparently relying on laws to stop this senseless slaughter of vegetables, why don't they just make dying illegal? That would cover guns, knives, croquet mallets, glass bottles, car wrecks, carbon monoxide, rat poison...

TheRedneck

What a great idea! After the knives, lets move on to take the lead out of bullets, make all rope elastic, and make all vehicles out of Nerf!

Another great idea! But to make it really effective without redesigning all scissors, shovels,axes and what not - i suggest simply removing all the fingers to general population. Without those, crime rates will drop instantly. Off course a new type TV remote controls will be needed but it is still much easier.
Safer (though shorter) future for all!

When is the chair-leg ban coming into play?

For those who still believe the media hype, please take the time to read and study This Report which contains all the home office stats.

Any questions about parts of the report taken out of context, or which are used in an incomplete manner will not be answered - you have to look at the whole, and not cherrypick parts which suit an argument in order to gain a full understanding.

On another note, the media have a job to do - make money by selling papers, advertising, or by increasing viewing figures, so buying into all this claptrap just makes people like rupert murdoch a little richer and a little more powerfull.

watch_the_rocks
Yes we've had the same thing here with regards to binge drinking, but the media have bored us to death and now they've found something else to focus on.

3 pints is a binge???
I thought that was just a warm-up

Luckily my favourite bar has great live music, cheap beer, and a great crowd of people - plus it's free to get in every night of the week

[edit on 16/7/2008 by budski]

Geez like someone else said a knife is just a tool,alot of young teenagers carry them not too look cool or tough, although that probably is partly to do with it...but the gang culture around certain areas..if you dont carry a knife...you can bet someone else is...take glasgow on a friday or saturday night for example,stab or be stabbed...alot of this is to do with alcohol aswell...but really if i was intent on killing someone i could do it with a spoon if i wanted,its about changing culture and attitudes...not some cheap quick fix for headlines..violence and the drinking culture in the UK is terrible,its going to take a long time to fix it,even the upcoming youth of today are worse than before...its going to take another 20 or so years to curb the valueless and undisciplined culture that has been breeding for some time now...

What next? Make all kitchen cleavers square-edged? That's the most deadly item in my kitchen, followed by the short chef's knife. Outlaw sharpening tools? Still won't affect things, IMO.

No more hammers, no more chisels, ummmmm basically ALL tools, even my trusty Sands extruded magnesium level is a potential weapon... just to try and mitigate "impulse killings"? Whoof. I can only hope this study wasn't spurred on by a government grant; I'd hate to think money was spent on it.

reply to post by Lethil


I think you're on a very sensible track...... legislate against behaviors, in this case the carrying of knives of a certain size, or of underage persons. Oh wait, I think that's been done already, or it has in this country anyway. We can walk down the street with a machette, or in the basket of a bicycle, but NO blades longer than 4 inches concealed.