Is my 7 year old daughter being prepped for disclosure by her school?

reply to post by tezzajw


Yeah, i know it has upset me a bit the responses that some posters have aimed towards my daughters teacher.
She really seems to be a very nice person,with the kids best interests at heart,and i know my daughter will miss her after the summer when she gets a new teacher.

If i thought there was any way this teachers identity could be found out,and for her to end up in trouble,i would pull the plug on this thread straight away.

That was never my intention.

I have been a bit shocked by some people reaction to this thread,and i don't care much for the accusation that i don't care about my daughters education.

I actually want my daughter to grow up with an open mind.

I would guess the work sheets on the real thing to worried about, I have seen little cartoonish aliens on kids stuff before. Not school stuff though. But I would be more worried about what the teacher said or supposedly said about the aliens landing and getting some type of cargo fro Africa Egypt and Australia.

Oops..

trouble with laptops is that the keys are just to close together..

[edit on 16-7-2008 by skjalddis]

No offense to the poster of this thread but if the responses are bothering you this much then maybe you shoudnt have posted it, You said your ok with the teacher telling her this stuff about aliens. If your ok with it you should have just said "my daughters learning about extra terrestrial life, good for her" and moved on with your life in general. You posted the thread and it sounded like you had some concern. Thats how I took it. Also its a message board so there will be all types of differing opinion, including ones from jerks. I would be concerned about what she said about the alien landings, I wouldnt want her strapping my kid with those possibilties. If she wants to believe it fine, but save it for when the kids get older. I believe in the possibility of alien life but i dont preach to every one I see about it, especially kids.

Originally posted by expatwhite
We had something like this the other week here in the UK. A load of parents were involved with the school in making UFO parts and scattering them all over the playground. When the kids got to school, for the whole day they had to play out the scenario as if aliens had landed. I dont think theres anything sinister in at all, it was just to try and get across to the kids about meeting aand accepting different cultures and customs and they used a medium that all kids understand, ie ET.

Maybe the teacher was alluding to something like this that they have possibly planned for the new term? Perhaps she was just kind of getting them into the idea when she was talking about landings around the world, raising their interest level ready for some new project that they're gonna be working on?

I don't have any school age kids but I gather that teachers here don't have that much freedom in what they teach anymore and that the curriculum is pretty much laid down for them by the govt and they just get to follow it page by page - at least that's the impression I've drawn from what I hear these days.

reply to post by tezzajw


I'm not sure where the persecution/over the top angle is coming from

no one has exactly called for the teachers head on a plate

the original question could be considered over the top - if you really want to get into it

but it was a sincere and honest question - which people have been considering

it involved some worksheets most people would know nothing about - and would naturally wonder about - even the child's own parent was curious about them

it also concerned information given to a child by her teacher - that the OP was not angry about, but still - concerned

all I've heard are some fairly rational people discuss what's OK and what's not OK for a teacher to discuss with their pupils - which is relevant

and whether or not it could have anything to do with disclosure





[edit on 7/16/2008 by Spiramirabilis]

Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
no one has exactly called for the teachers head on a plate

Have you read through the thread entirely?

You must have missed some of the posts where people were advising scobro to see the principal, the school board, etc...

From everything that scobro has shown us in this thread, this appears to be nothing more than a small unit of work about something a little different.

As one person mentioned, there's no difference between this and studying Harry Potter for a week or so, or hyping up santa, when we all know that's a load of crap as well.

reply to post by tezzajw


I have read thru the thread - and the percentage of people calling for that level of action is much smaller than than the remainder of reactions

but, even at that level of anger, if you're a parent - I can easily see being upset by something like this

what people would do "on paper" here at ATS is entirely different I'm guessing from how they might approach it if it really happened to them

so they vent

I'm sure this incident probably is a small, small thing in the grander scheme of things- and i understand why the OP isn't more upset - because they just aren't - it doesn't bother them

but - the original question did invite the discussion

I just find it interesting to go on the offensive and call it a witch hunt - when calling it a witch hunt essentially amounts to the same thing

people with kids are concerned about what their kids are being taught

whether you're religious, atheist, believe in UFOs, bigfoot or the Goblin King - it's a natural reaction

and a natural response to the information presented - as it was presented

[edit on 7/16/2008 by Spiramirabilis]

I have not read through the replies, but wanted to add my own notice of this.
2 years ago my step daughter, on the last day of school, when nothing is going on and they are really just killing time, in her science class they watched a documentary on The Betty and Barney Hill case! In SCIENCE class.
Then the following year one of her official "readers" for English class was a book on the UFO phenomenon! I kid you not.
I DO think the schools are "teaching" disclosure. I have been watching this happen for 2 years now.



[edit on 16-7-2008 by scarletm]

It seems this scottish heinemann series really like alliens.
See scottish heinemann maths 3: Shape Activity Book cover:

books.google.com.br...,M1

scottish heinemann maths 3: Activity Book
books.google.com.br...

Edit to add another, with ufos, alliens, elfs(?)
books.google.com.br...,M1

[edit on 16-7-2008 by casu10]

[edit on 16-7-2008 by casu10]

if you havnt noticed movies,shows,songs,books, depicting landings,aliens and such are so common that its almost like their trying to get everyone used to the idea that aliens are somewhere out there so when they actualy do come we wont be like OMG IZ THAT JEBUS!?!?!. its like their prepping our minds for such an event just a thought of mine hope it helps.

Originally posted by Shhmeat
OMG the teacher could be an alien!

Or worst yet a reptilian/human shapeshifting hybrid!

Get her the hell outta there! Do you want your daughter and her friends to be turned into mind controlled drones? OMG

Report this to MUFON, or David Icke or Larry King, or something!

Quick before it's too late! YOUR DAUGHTER'S LIFE IS IN GRAVE DANGER!

DO NOT LET THE EVIL REPTILIANS CONTROL HER MIND AND ALL HER FRIENDS!

NoooooOOOoooo!!!!!

OMMMMGGGG


No offence to the OP but to the people having a problem with it and comparing it to Jim Jones. Get real!

Oh and for the grandmother, here's a few cartoons with aliens, most of them on Cartoon Network:

Team Titans
The Powerpuff Girls
Invader Zim
Captain Planet
Team Galaxy
Super Friends

and from your day

Jonny Quest
Bugs Bunny
Scooby Doo



[edit on 16-7-2008 by cindymars]

It appears to be a harmless exercise with an alien/ufo theme. Teachers to it all the time to keep the kids interested. I did it.

Some of the themes I've used :

Geography/travel
Dinosaurs
Teenage Mutant Nija Turtles
Power Rangers
etc...



Nothing more IMO.

Cheers

Its quite possible that KGB agents or whatever they call themselves these days are testing the response of the youth of Australia to reveal that they run your country.

I was under the impression that this thread was from a concerned parent questioning the ethics of what the child is being taught, but it seems this parent is excited, comments like "I can't wait for them to show up", only demonstrates some level of encouragement from the parent. I think this parent sees it as disclosure being 'leaked' through the school, and isn't going to confront the school or teacher because he is waiting excitedly for what comes out next school year.

I believe children should have an open mind, but they should never be encouraged.

As I posted earlier, the child that told me about being taught about aliens, I just listened, limiting my questions and kept my opinion to myself, so as not to influence the child. In the case I wrote about, there were no worksheets or pictures drawn to verify the child's claim, and secondly she was not my child, so my interference is limited. The child told me things things and was quite animated about how the aliens moved, which begged the question "Have you see one (to know this)?", but rather I had to ask if she'd seen it in a movie. Perhaps she did and the story about the teacher was fabricated, as children will concoct things, esp if asked questions in a certain way, they will give you the answer they think they should give. Incidentally you asked if this was going on elsewhere, but ignored my post.

Had it been my child, and I saw these worksheets, I would have felt it my obligation to approach the school, even if just to clarify, but moreover to assert my authority over the child and what is not acceptable. The worksheets as they stand alone, may just be innocent, but the parts about aliens arriving in 2009 in Africa and seeding, and guaging the childs reaction to an alien landing takes it to another level, in my opinion. As one member stated school is for education, not to teach new age concepts. The teacher being nice is insignificant.

reply to post by scarletm


Take it easy! Its just personal opinions coming from the teachers. If it really was a widespread agenda, adults would hear about it first to prepare the little ones.

I think this is nothing more than an enthusiastic teacher using some interesting themes to teach.

Scobro,

I just sent you a U2U and I forgot something so I am sending another one off in a minute.

If you are curious about what your Daughter is being taught, call the teacher and ask. Sounds like you like her, so she probably would be glad to answer your questions? By the time a 7 year old gets home with information, it can get pretty confused.

Those work sheets look like what I would expect at that age. Fun for kids.

Did she overhear you talking about what you read on ATS? Kid's are way sharper than we adults give them credit for. Adults never think the kid's are listening, but they are.

Frankly, in my case I sort of felt like most parent's do about sex ed being taught
"Hey, no, you let ME tell them about the presence. I don't want you filling her head with disinformation thank you very much"

I mean : Do we REALLY want government sanctioned disclosure?
THAT, is an oxymoron.

I was pleased about the matter of fact way they did it---but wanted to make sure she understood that not everything she is told about it may be true and that she should think about it critically before deciding what to accept as "fact".

For the record, i do believe they are here. I also believe the Betty and Barney Hill story.
The book she brought home was a little more on the .......well 95% of it would have instantly been flamed here. Roasted.

I haven't read all of the replies in this thread... but I felt that I should mention that both of the worksheets that the OP posted originally came from a school textbook. So, it obviously wasn't the individual teacher's choice to provide these individual assignments. It was the company that created the textbook(s) that decided to include these assignments for one reason or another. These assignments, taken by themselves, are not surprising to me in the least. Textbooks, especially for younger children, often resort to these kinds of topics and themes in order to peak the child's interests. Having a UFO themed assignment is no different than having a dinosaur one, or any other fictional theme (obviously dinosaurs are not fiction, but when you include cartoon versions in assignments then it becomes fiction).

However, if what the OP's child says is true, and the teacher has made remarks in a serious nature about the coming arrival of UFO's, then I would be somewhat concerned. If this were a high school teacher, or even middle school (junior high to some of you), then it wouldn't bother me so much as the topic is more age appropriate. But when you're dealing with young minds and feeding them this kind of stuff, then I have a problem with it. These children are obviously frightened by the idea of UFO's and extraterrestrials. They do not need to be told by an adult that they trust and believe that aliens are coming to this planet, regardless of the teacher's claims that they come in peace. More importantly, I would be concerned about a teacher's lack of judgement and mental health in this case. If she is off her rocker enough to tell young children such a crazy thing, then who knows what else she is capable of saying or doing?

However, for all we know, she could have been clearly joking and perhaps her words or intentions have been taken out of context. If I were the OP, I would attempt to contact the teacher even if school is out for summer. This issue should be addressed with the teacher immediately, especially if she plans to continue discussing this topic with young students, as was claimed.