Is my 7 year old daughter being prepped for disclosure by her school?

Hi.

Over the last couple of months,my 7 year old daughter has been showing an increased interest in Aliens,UFO's and the like.

I can recall two of her homework sheets actually depicting both Aliens and UFO's.One in particular had both my Wife and i scratching our heads.
This particular homework sheet depicted a flying saucer landing in the playground,and the questions being asked on the sheet seemed to be designed to gauge my childs reaction to such an event!

Now,if the school wished my child to express,in writing,her reaction to extreme events,then why use a UFO landing in her playground?
I mean,what does a 7 year old girl now about UFO's?
Why not use a picture of a lion or something similar?

Anyway,just this week my daughter and i were out on a walk,when suddenly she blurted out that her teacher had told the class before they broke up for the summer,that an Alien landing was going to be happening next July!!

Naturally i was a bit taken aback by this statement,and so i asked my daughter what exactly her teacher had said to the class.
Apparently the teacher had said that Aliens were going to be landing in Africa,Egypt,and Australia to pick something up,(of this my daughter was'nt exactly clear about.Something to do with seeds or plants she thought).The teacher then went on to say that after that,the alien visitors would be seen all round the world,and that the children were not to be afraid,as they had come to help all mankind!
Her teacher then told them that they would learn more about the subject after they returned from summer holidays!

Now i know my daughter can be a bit prone to telling the odd tall tale,but she swore to God that everything she told me was what her teacher had told her.
And besides,i don't think my daughter knows enough about UFOlogy to be able to come up with this story off the top of her head!
I have met the teacher several times and she seemed to be a nice,sensible person,and not some kind of crackpot.

I will keep you all posted on any further developements,but i would like to know if any other parents out there have had similar stories out of their children?

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Edited to include the 2 worksheets that i was able to locate later in the day.


[edit on 16-7-2008 by scobro]

Very interesting post. I guess at this stage it's hard to separate the individual teacher's beliefs from a larger program. I can imagine some parents who have no idea being quite angry about what they believe is make believe being taught in the classes.

I wonder if any other kids are getting this too?

reply to post by Shere Khaan


Hi.

That was what i was wondering also.
I mean,teachers have to be very careful about pushing their own beliefs on to children,so is she doing this with the backing of the powers that be?

I will have to gently question my daughter a bit further and see if the story remains the same.

reply to post by scobro


HI! I really want to take this seriously, so I thought that maybe asking for a little proof would be fair?


Maybe a copy of the homework your daughter had?

It sounds to me like the teacher may be presenting her own agenda, and you should contact the school principle. Tell him/her exactly what was said to your girl. This would tell you a lot.

I am a firm believer in U.F.O.'s, and have long pointed out that the question was not "if", but "why?". So why is your daughter being told this? Like I said, you need to find out where that curriculum is from....

I'll flag this for curiosities sake, but would love a little proof.... Jason

What country do you live in? Does your daughter go to a state run school or some other kind (e.g a private school, or a partially state funded church school?)

It sounds very odd indeed, especially if the last part was true.. Will your child have the same teacher for the next school year? Perhaps talk to other parents in your area of children both in your child's age group, and those older children that have had the same teacher - see if you're not the only one that's noticed the weird homework. I'd advise against going to the school until you have some concrete evidence, or multiple parents backing you up, since otherwise anything you say is likely to be laughed off.

Wow, that is an interesting story. I, for sure, do not remember any UFOs or aliens in school. They were not even mentioned (not even in college).

I have to agree with the above, the significance between it being specifically the teacher's idea or if it was the curriculum.

If it is a means of disclosure, or softening the masses to the idea, is this a bad thing or a good thing?

reply to post by scobro

Very interesting...

What you really need to consider is that some teachers are stuck in a system that they despise. It's not necessarily the job that they despise, it's the way in which they are dictated to, by their curriculum authority, with regards to the dry and boring content that they MUST deliver. Education is spoon-fed corporatism that doesn't teach students to think. It teaches them to learn and specialise. I despise modern education.

I suspect that this teacher has a personal interest in UFOs and is using the context to frame some type of curriculum task, which achieves goals in a fun way. I don't see a problem with the UFO landing in a park task, as it's just as plausible as asking the kids what they would do if they saw a faerie in the park, etc...

Similarly, a teacher could use questions about angles of elevation of aircraft (in a maths class), but replace the aircraft with UFOs. If pressed by parents or school administration, then the teacher could justify that anything seen in the sky, which is unusual could be a UFO. From a real world perspective, a student would want to know something about angles of elevation if they were looking at something unusual. How many students look up to watch a plane pass by? Not many, as they know what planes look like. I know teachers who create worksheets with subtle mentioning of fringe topics, that can be justified.

Now, the only precarious situation this teacher is placing herself in, is predicting an alien event in July. This is not as easy to defend, with regards to particular curriculum goals. She would have been better off asking the students to rank in order of liklihood a few different events and include "Aliens land in July" as one of the events. The teacher could justify this, as there are bookmakers who take bets on aliens landing, etc.

A teacher must gag one's self of all personal opinions, in order to collect their pay cheques. However, they can still manage to push an agenda, if they're smart about it. Very carfully, very subtely.

Here's something for you to do: CALL THE TEACHER. Get her side of the story. If she's a little reluctant, then tell her that you're NOT baying for her job, just mention that you thought it was unusual what she did/said. She may appreciate the advice and she probably needs a gentle nudge to know her limits, before the annoying lot of parents start to complain. If you didn't mind what she did, then say so, she'll probably be glad for some positive feedback instead of the constant negative stream of criticism from moronic parents.

By the way, how old is the teacher? For how long has she been teaching?

[edit on 16-7-2008 by tezzajw]

Very interesting, can you please scan in a pic of the homework sheets and have you thought to contact the teacher directly? As a parent you should have that right.

I wonder how long her teacher has been a member of ATS
What part of Australia?

Joking aside i think it would be hard not to put your own personal thoughts in to your teaching But you have to draw a line and i think this teacher has steped over that line BIG time

I don't have kids my self but i don't think a 7 year old would get the concept of Aliens and ufos Most kids would be scared out of thier brain

I would be talking to this teacher in question and asking some very strong Questions

Good luck with that

reply to post by jasonjnelson


Hi.

I myself am of the belief that something big is just around the corner in terms of disclosure.

As for proof,my daughter often gets some of the work that they have done over the year to take home,so i will see if i can locate the worksheet and if possible i will scan it and upload it.

Can't give you a time scale for this as i am fairly busy through the week,( the only reason i am on here at this time of day is because i am at home looking after my wife who is unwell at the moment) but i will get on too it as soon as i possibly can.

Please bear with me.

Originally posted by duffster
I would be talking to this teacher in question and asking some very strong Questions

How about talking to the teacher first, before you decide to ask strong questions?

If you have a preconceived idea that you're going to ask strong questions, then you're probably not going to listen to why the teacher did what she did.

The first task was fine. Children speculate on lots of things. UFOs and Aliens are no more scary or fictional that the Brothers Grimm and other junk they see on TV (like Kang and Kodos from the Simpsons). Half of kids cartoons involve aliens of description or another! It's not like kids are immune to some exposure about aliens in the general media. The first task was engaging the students imagination to speculate on something 'fictional'. (Not that many of us actually think that it is fictional, hey?)

The prediction about an alien event in July was bold. TALKING to the teacher will help.

I can't believe how some people would approach the Principal or other superior before they actually talk to the teacher. If you screw up at work (and don't tell me you never do), do you want someone to speak to you about it first, with the chance to sort it out, or do you want them to go straight to your boss??? Think about it... you're dealing with a person's career. If she realises that there was no justification for the "Aliens will land in July" remark, then she's allowed to save face, apologise and move on. By the way, I wouldn't believe much about what a 7 year old kid says at 'face value'. They see things far more simplistically than an adult does. Which isn't always a bad thing, by the way.

[edit on 16-7-2008 by tezzajw]

reply to post by Inannamute


Hi.

We live in Scotland,my daughter goes to a normal state run school,and she will have a different teacher next term.

As for her teacher,she is fairly young and perhaps not long in the proffesion,so it may seem a bit risky to be pushing her own beliefs on these kids.

According to my daughter,she will be taught more on the subject next term from her new teacher.

reply to post by scobro


Sorry, I should have clarified my stance on the whole "principle" issue.

If you are okay with approaching the teacher, by all means, you should. I think that letting her know that you are cool with aliens is a great place to start.

Bring a bag of Reese's pieces.

I am certain that there is an upcoming event in the near term future but would be surprised if this was not just the teacher presenting her own ideas.

If it was more than that, at that point I would move up the chain, thats all...

Oh, and you should probably get on that homework thing if this thread picks up steam. You only have a couple hours to edit your OP, and if this thread gets busy, many will ask for the same thing, and get frustrated. It helps keep a thread from going in circles. (since you made a big point of first mentioning it) But I am patient, don't worry....

[edit on 16-7-2008 by jasonjnelson]

reply to post by duffster


Hi.

I have too say i am not overly worried about the things my daughter has been saying regarding her teacher,in fact i would like my daughter to become aware of all possibilities that are out there,and would only become worried if it became an obsession,and were perhaps affecting her in a negative way.

I would rather wait and see how the situation develops before i rush in hastily and make myself look foolish.

i doubt it's disclosure, i can't see teachers caring enough about the government line to keep previous knowledge of disclosure under their hats. it's got to be the teachers own personal beliefs if your sure your daughter isn't embellishing. she may well believe 100% that the teacher said the aliens will land in july next year, that doesn't mean the teacher didn't say something totally different. chinese whispers and all that.

Originally posted by scobro
I would rather wait and see how the situation develops before i rush in hastily and make myself look foolish.

Seriously, mate - ask the teacher, the next chance that you get.

You might be saving her from a big screw-up at the very least! You're wondering why she's using the alien theme to help your daughter learn, so ask her why! All that we are going to do in this thread is SPECULATE, when the teacher is the person who can actually give you the FACTS.

Heh, you just spurred a memory of mine when I was in primary school when I was about 11. We had to write down what we would do if aliens landed and said they were taking over the place - I forget what I wrote, but this post reminded me of it .

It was a Christian school at that.

I don't think it's anything sinister. That was like 11 years ago, and we haven't been 'invaded' yet.

I remember asking questions when I was 8 such as 'what are stars?' 'who made us?' 'what's out there?' type of things, I think kids at that age just start to get curious about stuff.

Maybe the scenario the teacher gave was part of a story? They'll find the rest out after summer.

I honestly don't think it has anything to do with disclosure. Governments wouldn't have to fund enormous expensive and covert studies to see how people would react to aliens - look how people react when petrol/gas prices go up a few cents.

They go nuts.

Now imagine aliens landing - no amount of preparation would do anything to help the situation

[edit on 16-7-2008 by mattguy404]

Hoax alert.

First off, seeing videos of American grownups not able to point out where the middle east is on a map makes me wonder. Your 7 year old child does? You don't even know that egypt is IN africa? Her teacher should know... get your facts straight man..

Edit: I guess you have the teachers telephone number. Why don't you call her before you post? To clear this up ..

[edit on 16-7-2008 by tep200377]

Originally posted by tep200377
You don't even know that egypt is IN africa? Her teacher should know... get your facts straight man..

Obviously, you missed the part where scobro typed this:

Originally posted by tep200377
Apparently the teacher had said that Aliens were going to be landing in Africa,Egypt,and Australia to pick something up,(of this my daughter was'nt exactly clear about.Something to do with seeds or plants she thought).

I added the bold to show you the part you didn't read. The 7 year old was not clear about it. Get it? List a string of countries to a 7 year old and see if they can recite them all, exactly as stated, at a later date.

It's good to see how you made up your mind with your first two words "Hoax alert." before you bothered to read the original post in full detail.

How many teachers do you think give out their personal phone numbers while they are on holidays???

I have started to notice that a lot of cartoons have some kind of aliens, UFO's in them nowadays....as for the teacher telling kids something like this it has to be her own personal agenda....I cannot see a school teaching kids this as part of their cirricula.....maybe this teacher knows something that we dont...

gonna have a search for mass landings for next yr and see what come up....good luck with questioning the teacher...maybe you'll get some answers...