APPLE (computers, ipods, iphones) is a SCAM and a GIANT RIPOFF

Ok, I for a living Buy laptops and disassemble them and sell the parts individually to companies who repair laptops for refurbishing and resale.

i have notices one thing. APPLE IS A RIPOFF!

All apple is is a fashion trend. Apple products are not any better than DELL, TOSHIBA, HP/Compaq, etc parts.

The sad part, Most apple laptops have the same internal parts as most other laptops. The CD Drives...most made by Toshiba, the LCD SCREENs that are so great on apples! There Toshiba or LG Phillips, SAME PARTS THAT ARE IN EVERY OTHER LAPTOP. The CPU? Intel, The memory...Samsung, the hard drive, Maxtor.

NOW THE REALLY UPSETTING PART.

Two laptops with the exact same specs. dual core 2mb CPU, 160GB, 2GB ram,
I can buy a HP or Dell laptop with these specs for about $400 regularly on ebay. used.

THE SAME laptop sold as an apple product, sells for $1400. nearly 4 times the same price! Your not paying for performance!

You can put a Apple operating system on any computer and you can put windows on any apple computer.

ALL YOUR PAYING FOR IS THE PLASTIC!

Its a fashion trend! just like abercrombie and Old navy. Your not paying for the product your paying for the name.

When i talk to people who don't know computers, they try and tell me that apples are just so much better, thats why they sell for so much more. There worth the cost. THATS BS!!!!

Apple i pods! amazing right! Why do they break all the time? Because of superior engineering? Its all propaganda and marketing! OPEN YOUR EYES! STOP WASTING YOUR MONEY ON APPLE! You can get a equal or better product for A LOT cheaper!

You can put a Apple operating system on any computer and you can put windows on any apple computer.

Running OSX on a PC is not as easy as you make it out to be. Now that they are running Intel processors, it is easier, but the average joe isn't going to be able to buy a copy of Leopard and just install it on his PC.

Yes, Apple is all about image. Unfortunately, American culture is also ALL ABOUT IMAGE. Apple is just very successful at marketing and convincing people how cool they would be if they owned one.

You could make the same argument about many products. Nike shoes, luxury cars...etc. You pay for the name.

yeah but the cost of an apple computer is so much more than just a pair of shoes. yeah i know a $10 pair of Keds with a Nike swoosh is sold for $55. But Apple computers cost an rm and a leg. and most of the people who buy them dont even use them for anything more than looking at their facebook.com pages and checking email and watching the occasional dvd. Most of the people jsut carry them around like fashion accessories.

I don't hate apple, i think their actually brilliant with the way they took their company from the ground and made it into what it is now with the fashion first approach to technology but i don't like it when people spend so much money for something thats no better than the competition.

i myself am guilty of paying more for fashion, ill buy a $60 pair of jeans over the $20 at walmart but theres a breaking point. The people who buy apples honestly believe they are 10 times better then anything else. they have their pros, but they also have cons. But is it worth paying an extra $1000 when you could jsut pay $300 for the same quality product.

I think you are being a tad unfair with Apple. Their PC's and Macbook Pro's do have cheaper equivalents, yes.

The Macbook Air was pretty original. There are some other ultra portables now, but that one really brought them to the forefront. The price is certainly higher than a normal laptop, but most of the ultra portables are fairly expensive.

The iPhone is a pretty impressive piece of tech. I think I will get one for my next phone to be honest. To have your iPod, GPS, the internet, phone, and camera all in one small device that fits in your pocket is awesome. The interface is great. It is expensive, but it is revolutionary. No one did the touch screen before, but now all phone companies are jumping on board. I really do tip my hat to Apple for the innovation in the iPhone.

I am also equally impressed with the ipod touch. Having built in WiFi to surf the net on your music player is awesome. Being able to watch movies on it is pretty sweet as well.

Apple makes a lot of good products. Yes, they are expensive but for the most part, they are innovative.

reply to post by ghostlandseller


I will agree with you on the laptops. I am not a hardcore windows person, but in my work place it is what is used. That said, I can't believe people spend that much either.

My sister just bought a $1700 Apple Desktop, and for what? She could have gotten a Windows or Linux, Quad LCD, Xeon processors for that price. She said she bought it because it looks good. Simply amazing.

I actually like the i-phone. of course i buy my flip phones for $20 and they suit me fine.

I see old school pentium 3 Apple i-books selling for $500, when the Compaq counterparts are selling for $50. is it worth 1000% more?

small 13'3 ibook? sells for $1000-$1400 at market price on eBay. not even the retail price for $2000ish, when HP or Dell have a laptop of the same size and weight for just $400 at market price and a Retail of about $700

I do like their technology to some aspects. their magnetic power port plug was brilliant! but its still not worth the cost. You want a light weight notebook, theres tons out there. Sony also is quite expensive but their technology for their laptops is FOREFRONT! they have upgraded to nearly paper think lcd panels by sharp and they have laptops that are extremely light weight and portable. And yet they still only cost a fraction of apple.

I like Macs - for years and years they came with a butt-load more memory standard, and Windows-based machines still haven't really closed that gap. For companies that use a lot of graphics apps, Macs are the default setting. I worked for years in the catalog photography industry (retouchers and commercial studios), in addition to a short stint in textiles design (weavers), and Macs were ubiquitous.

I love Mac OS's compared to Windows. There's better stuff out there, but Macs do have one distinct advantage (it's also their main drawback) - their rarity.

What pisses me off is the lack of inexpensive software, due to the Mac's rarity, compared to Windows-based machines.

That said, it's the rarity that makes them a very unattractive target for virus engineers. You can pretty much surf to your heart's content, without anti-virus, without extensive firewalls in place, and nobody can touch you. It's peace of mind, really...

I've got a couple of Macs, and a couple of Windows-based machines. I actually spent about 3 times more for the Windows-based computers, because I built them on spec and then decided not to sell. The Macs I got from a school when their lease expired. 200 bucks, thanks and good day - now let me go home and smother my good-as-new G4 with kisses.

Sounds like your school hooked you up! Id resell that baby and pocked a few hundred and buy a "PC (non apple..?)"

But yes apple software does work better with design software but that is also a lot of cliche. apple targets their advertising to artsy, design, photography/film fiends. I mean hell even down the the music they play in their commercials. its all Indie/artsy.

Apple computers are somewhat more rare but just because you have so many non mac oriented brands. But i live on University of Texas Campus and id say about 40% of the laptops i see from students here are all apples. most paid close to $2000 for them also. Makes me sick. I got my DV6000 HP laptop for $250. and it runs great! and i also do video editing on it with no problem. Got a few gigs of ram too.

reply to post by ghostlandseller




If you look at Newegg.com, they have prices for Sony VAIO's. They range from $3500.00 to $630.00. The Apple counterparts are from $2900.00 to $1000.00. You can get more bang for your 3 grand in the Sony than you can in the Apple but the difference isn't that big if you ask me.

I wouldn't buy one, but I can understand why image driven people would.

You know what I say?

Corporations are NOT your friend, and they are ALL brainwashing you into buying useless crap that you don't need. How many people were rushing to buy cell phones when they were first being marketed to a few business elite? NOBODY! It's all about that first bought off reporter that issues a "whats new" article in a big name paper, and that first commercial that shows you how convenient and cool it will make you and your life. It's ALL bull#! You don't need an entire crystal clear stereo song to play as your ringtone, NOR do you need a cell phone with a camera, gps, internet, tv, mp3s, video, calculator, chia pet, laser etcher, sex toy.... WTF??? I don't even own a cell phone even though you can get one for next to nothing these days. I'm 22 years old, so you know that everyone and their mom surrounding me is living their lives through those little radioactive monsters, and it drives me insane. "I don't know WHAT I'd do without my [insert piece of crap with a microprocessor and more drive space than my desktop PC here]!"

I'm pretty sure that we're not going to all perish if the Corporations are all overthrown by humanity.

They are all run by criminals. All your gadgets are made to crap out after about 2 to 4 years, whenever the next generation of pieces of dog vomit come out. That's where they get you. They use easily degradable parts on purpose, and they lie about how durable it is, and how advanced it is... and you spend 2000 dollars on a little gadget the size of your palm because it's the new thing, only to have to buy another one a year or two later.

That's just the digital technology industry I'm talking about... let alone every other industry and corporate merchandising. It's a giant brainwashing campaign to overtake the entire world and make them into dumbed down, fat, fearful, ignorant mind controlled slaves in their own little prisons called housing.

It's worse than in your face fascism. It's devil in a blue dress fascism.

EDIT to add this:

We shall overcome!!!!



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Sony seems to be less image oriented and more technology oriented. I have ripped open some sony laptops and been completely astonished at the technology they use n the parts they put in their laptops. I mean there laptops are 2-3 years ahead of most of their companies. there usually a lot more expensive but thats because by the time there two years old there still as good as the Newly released generic HP, Dell brand laptops. and they are usual easier to upgrade then most laptops.

apples are just disappointing when i disassemble them!. I was really excited when i tore open my first apple laptop. But that quickly erased when i saw the design of the laptop. It was so trashy. The parts were breaking and the lcd screen bezel wouldn't even go back on correctly because the little parts that held it on rather than screws all broke off. but the design is all external!

reply to post by Karlhungis


"To have your iPod, GPS, the internet, phone, and camera all in one small device that fits in your pocket is awesome. The interface is great. It is expensive, but it is revolutionary. No one did the touch screen before, but now all phone companies are jumping on board. I really do tip my hat to Apple for the innovation in the iPhone."

...are you insane? No-one did the touch screen before? erm, iPaq? for about 10 years before the iPhone came along. And Windows Mobile has been providing everything you list above and more for ages. Sadly your comments epitimise the typical Apple fanboy. You genuinly belive that Apple has created something 'revolutionary' when in fact all they've done is take current tech and wrap it in a pretty bundle for you. And by the way, Apple didn't create the tech in the Aplle Air, they simply bought it and repacked it. Apple isn't the uber innovation you think it is.

reply to post by dunwichwitch


Couldn't have said it better myself.

To note I don't own a cell phone either and never will. Complete waste of money.

I couldn't live without a cell phone! Its just too handy. but i usually only use mine for talking, texting, and checking up on sports scores while sitting through my Spanish classes this summer. haha

It's simple really, it's not the hardware it's the software and the design. I use a PC but much prefer mac as it is easier to use, more reliable and not prone to viruses. I prefer my iPod touch as it looks and functions better than a walkman. Some people might buy an X-Type Jag because it looks good and is aesthetically pleasing inside but the simple fact is, it is basically a Ford Mondeo with a different shell.

yeah i agree with Karlhungis its not easy to install OS X on a PC and its just not the same.
and yeah the image of apple is brilliant for marketing but microsoft is following; vista has got so many things JUST like tiger/lepoard... cmon bill, gadgets? who are you trying to fool.
plus the great thing about a mac is that they just work(i own an old 2001 graphite ibook that is happily running tiger), and are a brilliant machine (usually for editing, etc.) and they are alot safer (you know, the whole 'no virus' thing).
plus they do comparisons all the time, for an extra hundred bucks, you get everything in the screen and 1 wire, not to mention the fact that they can triple boot and i think even quadruple boot.
macs are just overall a more attractive computer in pretty much all aspects.

I will comment on one piece of marvelous hardware that I will never ever find again.

My desktop computer, made by a company called VPR Matrix. I don't think they are still around. If they are, you can't find these computers anywhere... but I bought my VPR desktop in ehhh early 2003, maybe it was still 2002, for 800 bucks... all I did was install a better video card, and to this DAY, the thing works like a trooper. It is UNBELIEVEABLE how good it still runs, and how it still competes with new hardware. I will admit that I gotta do a disk cleanup every once in a while, and it crashed once because I downloaded way too much porn, but uhh that happens when you download like a whole porno shop's worth. Yeah, well... I liked porn a lot. What can you say?


EDIT:

I'm sure someone who's already spoiled with the latest 5000 dollar mega-puter would disagree... but I can still do all the things I need to do just great with this baby!

What do I do? Type some little messeges on the ATS and the GayKon.Net, do an email here and der, get music, burn cds, watch porn, ya know live the life until the lights go out permanently. Why not? It's there. The forest is way over there right now. It's all good in the neighborhood for now.

I know I sound hypocritical, but are YOU gunna be the lone dude who marches on Lockheed Martin and Raytheon and McDonald's and Apple computers with revolution in mind?

We can start a coalition of the willing today, if you'd like? But until the willing max over like two crazy dudes yelling in the street, we're just gunna have to have patience.

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[edit on 14-7-2008 by dunwichwitch]

I've had and used Macs since I was 10. From System 7 to OS X, and I know them pretty well.

13 years later, I don't think I'm going to change. It's a superior system and the amount of media editing prowess that is bundled with current Macs wipes the floor with any other Windows PC offering out there.

For me it's not a fashion trend. About 80% of people at uni have Macs, and they're not brainwashed idiots, they just know they get more done.

I tried to get a girl's Windows Vista laptop to work with the uni's wireless network - I was completely lost! I have an XP system (also under Parallels on my Mac) and Vista really is a monster of a system.

Eh, I don't know. It's a personal choice.

I also have an iPod touch, it's like a little slice of Mac wherever I go

reply to post by mattguy404


Me being a computer nerd somewhat...or at least used to be.... I always say "macs are for hacks!", just because it makes you look cool to the other nerdier nerds than you, ya know?

But now that I'm into audio recording and whatnot, I wish I had a mac. Media is so much easier to set up, and same with like everything. They have a friendly animated button for everything.

With windows, every time you click something, you're like Samuel Jackson in Jurrasic Park, nervously puffing a cigarette and saying "Hold onto your butts!" to your sheltie laying in the corner.

reply to post by dunwichwitch

With windows, every time you click something, you're like Samuel Jackson in Jurrasic Park, nervously puffing a cigarette and saying "Hold onto your butts!" to your sheltie laying in the corner.

It doesn't happen often, but I literally laughed out loud on that one. I can't say that I agree with you, but that was one hell of an analogy.