Something has changed, timeline?

Hi,
Just to add to other responses, I've had that feeling that something is just a little different. I can't put my finger directly on it, but this feeling started about mid June. Sometimes, I feel like I'm right on the edge of remembering and then it slips out of reach.

A couple of things to add.

I should not be posting this.

If its ever read ( by the person who I Talked to tonight )I'll be really sorry.

I'll get to that at the bottom of this post.


I've tried to stay away from this thread until page 28 Dissapeared, and I hope this is 29 now. When I logged on to this thread it was showing 32 pages. It shows 28 again now when I replied to this post.

Also, since my last post 2 days ago, several more strange things have happened.

First of all, the night that I logged out at 3:30 or whatever AM, I went to bed to have major real nightmares that I had to bring myself out of by trying to yell "help me" "help me"... it sounded like "elp e" "elp e" when I heard it because my mouth would not work.

I dont want to get into the "dream" right now because it was so real that it freaked me out. It was quite evil, and it had me by the arms with very sharp claws that I could feel like Scalpels or Cat claws tearing into my flesh. It was a small Girl that was really evil and was trying to pull me under the bed... with a really scarry face and mean looking teeth. As I yelled Help Me.. help Me no one was in the house to hear, but the soound of ME woke me up to see Two Figures in my room Backing up into my closet and the hallway. One was Gold Light Colored, and I'll just leave that at that for now.... anyway, I could not move my arms from my sides for several minutes. They fely like heavy weights had just been removed and there was a severe tingling sensation in both my arms from the elbows down. The next day I had a Terrible Migrane all day and could not go to work. I got up at 7:30 and showered, had coffee and could not get the headache to go away. I ended up sleeping about 9 hours on the couch trying to get the headache to go away.

I know this means nothing to you, but its Important to me beacuse I woke Myself up trying to scream and saw two figures dissapear out of my room in a flash.

I have not figured it out yet, but it was weird. I'm leaving that at that.

My Voice didnt sound right when I said Help Me Help me.... I could not pronounce the H in help or the M in Me, it was like under my breath elp e elp e

It was not a common occurance, and I would have written it off as just a nightmare, but when I woke up I SAW two Figures leaving my room through a closet and hallway in a flash of dissolving air.




The Next thing happen TONIGHT, just about 10:00 PM.

This was told to me by a Person that I'm dating, that has NO IDEA of ATS, anything alternative as far as news or knowledge. It was VOLUNTEERED to me out of the blue tonight and I feel the need to share it with you all.

If She Ever reads this, I'll probably never be able to speak to her again.




I'm dating a Woman that I have known for 10 years or more now, who I've always had a special connection with, but she has been Married since we met. We have just been friends for 10 years or more, talking about 2 or 3 times a year on the Phone when either of us gets the courage to call the other.

Well, Her Husband Died of Cancer this Febuary, and I had no Idea.

I called her up a Couple of months ago, and got the news, and we have been talking and having dinner ever since at least twice a week.

She is extremely Professional, Liberal and Grounded in reality. I'm not about to screw that up by talking about Aliens, Gov. Conspiracies, or Shooting Burgulars. I keep it REAL with her, and I'm watching my step to not go down that path with her not understanding Questioning Authority and Denying Ignorance to say the least...

Well, We are having dinner tonight and she Volunteers some really strange information.

She is "associated" with a Business where Musicians can rent Practice Rooms to avoid 'garage band's and neighborhood police calls. About 70 rooms, all soundproofed and extremely high class and professional. There are common areas and snack areas, aside from the rented Practice rooms, which rent by the month.

Her Girlfriend / Worker called her today to report that there was a young Boy there today who was hanging out with one of the regular bands.

He Got really Freaked Out and Ran Out of the Building saying that he had seen 2 ghosts talking to him. When he got calmed down by the Employees, and his people that he was visiting, he described the ghosts and what they said....

One was really Tall with Long Black Curly Hair and was really nice except he was wearing a "Mask". The Other one was short bald and fat and was Mean to him telling him to get his FEET off THE FURNITURE! Thats freaked
him out and he ran out of the Building.....

Whats weird about this is that the Woman that I am Dating, her husband died in FEB. He was Very Tall 6'2 or 3", with Long Black Curly Hair, and a really cool guy. He died from Cancer that was on his face, and near the end it was quite horrific for anyone who saw him. I saw pictures, and it was quite bad, even to someone with medical experience. He was also a well known Musician, and heavily associated with this business, to say the least. I cant say anymore detail.

The Boy who saw him said he was wearing a 'mask'!


I asked her.... are there pictures of him around on the walls? She said NO , only in the Office, behind a locked door. ( Ive never been there )


I have NOT discussed ATS with her at all, this thread, Cern, Time Space Continuium or anything like that... and SHE volunteered this information to me tonight.


I'm seriously taking a BIG risk even posting this, because She is really smart, and If she ever reads this she will be "hurt" thinking that I posted personal information that is no one elses business.

I'm taking that chance to add this information to this thread.

We dont know who the other Ghost was.


Thats all I have to say... take it as you will.

I did tell her that She Should Believe the Boy, especially this week.

Whats weird is that An Employee called her to inform her, and she felt obligated to share that with me out of the blue.

She Honestly HAS NO IDEA of this thread or that I even post here.

I'd like to keep it that way as well.


STRANGE DAYS ARE HERE FOLKS!


Blitzkreigen


Hesistating to click Post Reply..... I may regret this, and I'm Sorry but it has to be documented.

Omg, my dreams are back.

This time it are not alien drams, this was very disturbing to me.
Now i cant remember everything, its like some parts of the dream are cut out so maybe it is not entirely fluid what im am going to tell but i will explain the best i can.

The dream:
I was in the middle east, i dont know where exactly or which country.
I was some sort of angel and there was a war. A war with i guess other angels.

So i was talking to this other guy, i was talking to him to get him to join our good side. We were standing on a roof, all around us there were some houses and a lot of sand and some kind of river. Suddenly all hell broke loose and this guys eyes changed completely red, like they were some kind of blood eyes or whatever. I just knew that me trying to talk him to the good side didnt work and we started fighting. Suddenly we all left the rooftops and went to the river. There was a corpse lying there, well, not a corpse, just a skeleton with some blueish light around it. Suddenly i know this was the skeleton of Jesus and we had to fight to keep the badguys away from it. Suddenly the skeleton started to walk and regenerate into a normal living human being and we kept fighting for it to complete its transformation. That when the dream ended.

I woke up with a feeling that this was a war between Jesus and the angels and the Devil and his elohim. I also got a feeling this dream was not just a dream and was not just something that happend in the past but is going to happen in the near future.

Maybe it could be a fight from the past which i am dreaming about because our changed timelines, i dont know, but i just got the feeling this is going to happen in the near future.



Now, and this is very important, i am no religious person, i never visited the church, i simply dont have a religion.
I did, as a little boy, go to a religious christian school. It was not different from other schools except we only prayed at the morning and the teachers always read to us from the bible, thats all i ever had to do with religion.

Maybe someone can shed a light on this, because im having a real bad feeling about this, with everything that has happend in the last couple of weeks taken into account.

reply to post by Pellevoisin

en.wikipedia.org...
Here's an exerpt from Nelson Mandella's biography:

Nelson Mandela was imprisoned on Robben Island where he remained for the next eighteen of his twenty-seven years in prison. On the island, he and others performed hard labour in a lime quarry. Prison conditions were very basic. Prisoners were segregated by race, with black prisoners receiving the fewest rations. Political prisoners were kept separate from ordinary criminals and received fewer privileges. Mandela describes how, as a D-group prisoner (the lowest classification) he was allowed one visitor and one letter every six months. Letters, when they came, were often delayed for long periods and made unreadable by the prison censors.[2]

Whilst in prison Mandela undertook study with the University of London by correspondence through its External Programme and received the degree of Bachelor of Laws. He was subsequently nominated for the position of Chancellor of the University of London in the 1981 election, but lost to Princess Anne.

In his 1981 memoir Inside BOSS[17] secret agent Gordon Winter describes his involvement in a plot to rescue Mandela from prison in 1969: this plot was infiltrated by Winter on behalf of South African intelligence, who wanted Mandela to escape so they could shoot him during recapture. The plot was foiled by British Intelligence.

In March 1982 Mandela was transferred from Robben Island to Pollsmoor Prison, along with other senior ANC leaders Walter Sisulu, Andrew Mlangeni, Ahmed Kathrada and Raymond Mhlaba. It was speculated that this was to remove the influence of these senior leaders on the new generation of young black activists imprisoned on Robben Island, the so-called "Mandela University". However, National Party minister Kobie Coetsee says that the move was to enable discreet contact between them and the South African government.[18]

In February 1985 President P.W. Botha offered Mandela conditional release in return for renouncing armed struggle. Coetzee and other ministers had advised Botha against this, saying that Mandela would never commit his organisation to giving up the armed struggle in exchange for personal freedom. Mandela indeed spurned the offer, releasing a statement via his daughter Zindzi saying "What freedom am I being offered while the organisation of the people remains banned? Only free men can negotiate. A prisoner cannot enter into contracts."[18]

The first meeting between Mandela and the National Party government came in November 1985 when Kobie Coetsee met Mandela in Volks Hospital in Cape Town where Mandela was being treated for prostate surgery. Over the next four years, a series of tentative meetings took place, laying the groundwork for further contact and future negotiations, but little real progress was made.[18]

Throughout Mandela's imprisonment, local and international pressure mounted on the South African government to release him, under the resounding slogan Free Nelson Mandela! In 1989, South Africa reached a crossroads when Botha suffered a stroke and was replaced as president by Frederik Willem de Klerk. De Klerk announced Mandela's release in February 1990.

reply to post by Blitzkreigen


Yeah, it's a double post no I don't care. I too have woken up paralyzed saying "elp e, elp e!" under my breath I don't know how long it took before I could move again but I struggled the whole time.

Also tonight I couldn't move again but I didn't really want to either. I was kind of scared that night so I had music playing on my PDA, and I put on my cross necklace that I haven't touched in years. Then I started to feel weird things. First my hip went numb then I felt scratching with surgical precision around my leg just below my knee. Then my shoulder went numb and the veins in my hand started to burn but slightly like I was only half conscious of it happening. Then a burrowing pain started worse than all the others at my side. I started mentally saying "put it back, stop it!" still far less terrified than I should have been. I finally managed to move to the front of my bed a bit more.

I was afraid to feel my side (and I didn't until the morning.) then I fell asleep, But I wasn't really asleep I would see some of the old UFO photographs I was looking at the day before. (it had to be past midnight by then)Then I would wake up look at my broken clock and roll over. This repeated about five times then I finally realized something was wrong my cross necklace was off my neck and on my bed stand. The music wasn't playing anymore either. I had left the PDA beside me in my bed face down (speaker up) but now it was on my bed stand facing up. It was 2:22 am and I was too terrified to sleep so I took a sleeping pill and finally I started to have normal dreams.

Am I going insane or did something actually happen?


[edit on 13-7-2008 by Aron1138]

Originally posted by beefeater
I realy thought Ernest Borgnine was dead, because i remember been sad about it. Does anyone else think he was dead?

Me too!

I remember that I was very sad about it, because I loved the Airwolf series as a kid... I really remember that we would never see new episodes with pilot Stringfellow Hawk yelling to him "give me turbo's".

I'm really confused now :S

Here's all the movies and shows he's been in www.imdb.com...

My brother and mother also believed he was dead... I'm still pretty sure that he died age 74/78 or so from a heart attack.

Today I also read this thread more closely.

I really recognize the feeling of pressure in the head, just underneath the skull. Sometimes it's just there out of nowhere with a sharp pain. Yesterday this started again after having it in February/March.

Also the feeling that I have. I can also describe it is as the feeling one gets when walking/driving on ice... and that you've got this feeling that it's just about the break underneath you.

Not pleasant at all.

Originally posted by nexusmagazine

Originally posted by grey580
I had the strangest feeling today. I woke up this morning. And the first thing that came to my mind was that something was different. Like there was a change in the timeline and when I awoke I felt the change.

I don't know if it was just a dream or remnant of a dream of something. But upon waking I just felt like something was different. Something changed. It's not like it's a hard concrete feeling. Just a nagging suspision that won't go away.

Anyone else feel this way?

I'm getting calls and emails at my office from people saying the same sort of thing. Mind you, I find these sorts of feelings appear in 'waves'.

I used to believe in the single timeline theory, in which the Grandfather Paradox can exist. But after reading some literature, both scientific and metaphysical, I began to wonder why there should only be ONE timeline.

My current favourite theory about timelines is the one described by John Titor. I recognise that many believe him to be an elaborate fraud - but I still found his description of time and time-lines to be the best one that matches my own theory.

If so, then a whole new 'world' opens up for exploration. I found some interesting perspectives to be found in a book called: "The Individual and the Nature of Mass Events".

Good topic!

Duncan

I have always wanted to make a movie to describe how I think time is structured. I think it is structured in a web, much like a flow chart though. So, you know the feeling you get when you are near death, the feeling that you almost just died, but got away by the skin of your teeth? I have always thought, that maybe this is a small point of a time split. So in your life, you have survived, but because time split, in the time that has split off, you have died. I think this theory could explain all sorts of phenomena, such as ghosts. I have also always felt that Aliens may well be not Aliens at all, but rather time travelers, which can't interact with us because they have not yet learned how they are or can effect the web of time. Time is a funny thing, because it can stretch, if you were at the origin point of the big bang, it is quite possible that in relative terms the universe is actually not as old as we perceive it. Time is the most interesting subject I believe there is.

Ok so I read a thread on another website that was talking about this stuff. One thing that caught me was famous people that had died more than once.

I used to watch the show "Airwolf" when I was a kid, and remembered Ernest Borgnine. He died in like 1998, I remember it clearly, where I was and everything. Then I remember him dying again, like 6 months ago. But lo and behold he is still alive!!!

Don Knotts died 2x as well, and I'm pretty sure he is dead in this current timeline.

George Carlin died 2x, I remember them announcing his death on the Wednesday, and then he died again on thursday or Friday night. Totally weird.

Anyway, I really honestly believe with all my heart that time travel has been discovered, and timtravelers are screwing around with the past.

i think its weird this thread has gone onto 29 pages and there has been no major debunkers or derailers thats fantastic
i think this kinda thing has been going on since early 90's

Ernest Borgnine born 24 January 1917, Hamden, Connecticut, USA

I found this on IMDB - "Involved in an air crash in 1996."

I thought I'd read that he'd passed on aged about 87 which would make it 2004.

Don Knotts, again from IMDB

Date of Birth:21 July 1924, Morgantown, West Virginia, USA

Date of Death:24 February 2006, Los Angeles, California, USA (pulmonary and respiratory complications

Originally posted by Psychopump
There are a LOT of weird things happening.

I find files, applications and even games on my 1 month old PC I don´t remember downloading (I am the sole user).

My bank balance (which has been zero for months) suddenly increased to 20 euros without any reference of a deposit.

A crack in my car windshield is SHRINKING.

I am hearing increasing reports of local sailors and motorboat owners of strange lights under the water in the Bay of Roses in Catalunya.

I get between 5 and 10 missed calls on my mobile phone per day without it ringing or vibrating.

Objects in my home seem to move to different locations.

My wife has been having very vivid lucid and sleeping dreams of martial law being imposed and large white spacecraft hovering over the sea near the coast.

And more...
To be honest, it´s scaring the crap out of me.

I experienced the 5-10 missed calls as well as objects moving to different locations. I also find myself constantly checking doors and hallways with constant paranoia (and with a colt 1911 airsoft gun) [Edit] (weird I posted like 5 more things and they didn't show up)

I'm finding that the sky is completely clear all the time. This usually bothers me due to the intensity of the sun. Now I find that I am completely comfortable with going outside. In fact everything seems much more colorful and beautiful. I've also received a voice mail an entire day late! As well as calls from other states . There are other oddities but I'd rather not say untill I'm sure.

[edit on 14-7-2008 by Aron1138]

Has anyone noticed a difference in how long an hour feels?

And yes, as many people have said colors seem completely different outside. inside nothing has changed but when I look out the window it's like another world. I'll keep you posted just keep your thoughts coming.

[edit on 14-7-2008 by Aron1138]

I have been experiencing like something is missing.

When I really think about it all my head feels like its split into two.

These are the people I know who are dead.

Peter Brock.

Steve Irwin.

so if they magically come back alive, if someone in this time bubble sees this post and ends up in another time bubble where they are alive PM me lol and if you get a reply like "what they never died" you will have you're answer.

[edit on 14-7-2008 by amraks]

To me it's more than just choice people being alive. For me it's like a completely different reality. My perception of everything has changed. I'm very much more aware.

[edit on 14-7-2008 by Aron1138]

Just a stab in the dark:

Could it be that the Earth´s magnetic field is gearing up to a reversal?
I have no idea how something like that would manifest, but maybe someone can tell us?

www.pureenergysystems.com...

the sun's magnetic field reverses in 2012 as it does every 11 years. Also I'm sure you've all heard about the Mayan calendar and 12/21/12.



I think I found something, it's a vague Mayan reference to 2.0.1.3. "it is a symbolic reference to post-shift consciousness" I plan to research this later " it is NOT a year in the Gregorian calendar scheme of things."


[edit on 14-7-2008 by Aron1138]

Originally posted by Pellevoisin
One day I woke up to a world in which Nelson Mandela was very much alive and walking out of the prison.

I remember vividly his execution in South Africa.

OMG. I was stunned to hear Mandella was alive. I, too, remember hearing of his execution!

So make that at least three people!

im still not getting any of this thread

to me i think alot of people are being very over analytical


they want something to be out of the ordinary so they think, time travel is now possible

I just dont have any other the impaired past or thinking people have died and arent

ive even asked people if theyve felt anything out of the ordinary and nope, nothing

so why all the hoopla on this stuff?

granted alot of people are spewing stuff left and right how this and that those

but seriously any definitive proof, plus if the time line changed i think everything would have changed, why do you still have the memory of someone dying before if they arent dead now

why wouldnt your knowledge of history change in your mind?

and why are only famous people dying and not dead now

you dont hear anyone saying my uncle or my old crush, or teacher

and then asking them, hey didnt you die before?