Violent encounter with an alien being

Originally posted by Woland


A more prosaic problem I have with the story, something that has been raised by others, is your behaviour the following day and your descriptive language. You write like you're trying to impress. This over emphasis on style and embellishment can be a sign of those not telling the truth. I'm not going to say that you're both lying as I'm not going to pretend to be a psychologist, but phrases like 'Blow after blow rained down on it' make we wonder.

I agree it does come across as someone trying to prove how badass they were. Like a big show.
Also.. who was it again that you found to hypnotize you both on such short notice?
Or did you both have the ability to put each other into a hypnotic state?

Originally posted by Belthermar
Few Quick Questions Dan!

1) when you was hitting the creature can you describe it's screams?

2) Did it have hands if so fingers too and how many?

3) What is your perception on its strength? and battle technique?

[edit on 6-7-2008 by Belthermar]

1) I dont recollect any sounds at all, though my wife describes cires like an animal in pain.

2) yes it had hands and looking at them in my minds eye as they were palm up...three fingers and webbed slightly at the base.

3) Strength ? like a well built human but one thats never fought a battle for life before. Like a boxer who expects rules get shocked when a savage jumps them.

As for techniques, i feel that its mind was too focused on shocking me and not using its own arms legs and head as I was doing.

Few Quick Questions Dan!

1) when you was hitting the creature can you describe it's screams?

2) Did it have hands if so fingers too and how many?

3) What is your perception on its strength? and battle technique?

Still no reply dan? Maybe You missed it the first time?

Originally posted by NephraTari
... Do you not think they could have killed you if they wanted to when they came back to do the clean up?...

Seems like a valid point.

Although the cleanup crew might be different beings who are non hostile or only try to fix these type of situations.

reply to post by NephraTari



badass ? no, stress relief getting it all out as my mind needed to.

nothing bad ass about it. Just pure plain anger needing to be let out.

You were warned at the start about content and language.

If you take a black light and turn it on in the dark, you should see fluids. Even those that were wiped away should show up. If it were me, I'd be curious enough to use the black light.

Originally posted by NephraTari
Perhaps it was Davey Jones?


Seriously though. I have seen multiple people comment on the fact that they came back and cleaned up without harming anyone so it remains concerning that in spite of this evidence that they mean no harm you still seem set on killing anything that returns. Do you not think they could have killed you if they wanted to when they came back to do the clean up?

That is not behavior indicative of a hostile being.

Perhaps the clean up crew had nothing to do with the first creature? Maybe this is a race that wants to keep things quiet on earth with no hostile intentions. The knife handle being left doesn't disprove anything I don't think.

Also the fishman could have either A) actually been killed or B) the shock and disappearing act could have been a self defense mechanism that kicked in and transported it somehow back to its craft?

Just my thoughts

reply to post by jkrog08


lol no it was a joke but actually I did feel that the lack of a nose might be similar to davey jones in that way.

This is an interesting story. I am having trouble with parts of it..but I think some of it is just due to the very different nature of the OP. I have a feeling he is a very aggressive person in nature even though he claims to be docile ... just the way he described the account made it seem like he was proud of how violent he was.

I was also curious and I have 2 questions:

1. I am a mother, and know the behavior of babies sleeping, etc. How one earth does a baby sleep thru all of that ruckus? I mean, I can understand sleeping thru a thunderstorm or the TV on. Or 2 adults having a normal conversation. But all that thrashing, screaming, etc. I just dont understand how a baby could sleep thru that?

2. How does you and your wife reach a level of "realaxation" after an event like this? I mean, I can look back on some bad situations I encountered. And they had me messed up for days and completely unable to live a normal life (eat, drink, socialize, computer time, etc). How do you 2 just move on like nothing happened? Stressed out people, want to know


Also, a side thought. Regarding the alledged clean up. Even if blood is cleaned up, forensics can still find traces of stuff that the eye can not see. I personally would have taken myself to a doctor as evidence of an assault...then had police forensics look the place over. Just what I would have done *shrug*

[edit on 6-7-2008 by greeneyedleo]

Originally posted by virraszto
If you take a black light and turn it on in the dark, you should see fluids. Even those that were wiped away should show up. If it were me, I'd be curious enough to use the black light.

Thats in RATS.

Sorry dude, but thats from a poster who i will not add onto main board.

But great idea and my kit is in the post. I will be doing a full UV inspections as soon as it gets here.

One quick question. If you broke the blade of your knife off in the fishman can you upload a pic of the handle without the blade? Not sure if this has been asked since its 30 pages in....

Originally posted by Brent352

Originally posted by NephraTari
Perhaps it was Davey Jones?


Seriously though. I have seen multiple people comment on the fact that they came back and cleaned up without harming anyone so it remains concerning that in spite of this evidence that they mean no harm you still seem set on killing anything that returns. Do you not think they could have killed you if they wanted to when they came back to do the clean up?

That is not behavior indicative of a hostile being.

Perhaps the clean up crew had nothing to do with the first creature? Maybe this is a race that wants to keep things quiet on earth with no hostile intentions. The knife handle being left doesn't disprove anything I don't think.

Also the fishman could have either A) actually been killed or B) the shock and disappearing act could have been a self defense mechanism that kicked in and transported it somehow back to its craft?

Just my thoughts

My wife described the clean up crew and their 'cube' that kept her entranced and their ablity to manipulate space and time so easily it makes us here on earth look silly.

If I need to post it again ill drag it from her word files and do so if it helps

reply to post by greeneyedleo


You would be surprised how humans can react following inter-species encounters(what we theorize).I liken it to a human encountering a dinosaur,specifacly(sp?) one such as a Velociraptor(one that is powerful,but not unrealistically huge like the T-rex)

Just to be clear, here's what the OP is alleging:

He is awakened to find an apparently unfriendly figure in his room, that got in despite locked doors and windows.

He senses an unfriendly advance on his family, and with no vocal reaction, no yelling or screaming of a warning to anyone he reacts by nearly instantly retrieving a bladed weapon.

Then he successfully gouges, cuts, slices this figure with multiple weapons, without sustaining anything more than a few scratches, and an unsubstantiated burn on his foot.

During this altercation he hits the creature in excess of 100 times, not including some of the cutting and slashing, with multiple weapons including a specialized knife and an ice ax, claiming to be some kind of deadly self-defense expert, and veteran of many street combat and prison fights. As a kicker we get glossy pictures of the knives.

Blood or some kind of viscous material gets all over the place.

Then someone posting as his wife wakes up and claims she throws him a knife, but has no real startle reaction.

Finally, this creature, supposedly slashed and gouged manages to live long enough to activate a transporter device and "beams" out of the bedroom.

A "cleaner" is sent in and sterilizes the site, blanks memories and retrieves any potential forensics, but leaves behind a potentially incriminating broken knife handle. We are to believe that removing evidence is of particular value to these creatures and that they walked in and in error forgot to disable both adults the first time, but did not have any trouble disabling them during the clean up.

Then we hear additional stories of the room shrinking, human like beings fleeing the scene, the OP yelling out the window but having no memory of this.

Conveniently, the wife somehow has him hypnotized with the help of a friend and posts a rather lurid description of some kind of encounter in the woods, still posting under the OP's account now and then.

Then the next day the OP is on ATS posting about unrelated conspiracy topics, finally deciding to 'leak' this story on RATS, then, presumably getting a good reaction (or maybe not enough reaction) seeking even more attention, posts it on ATS, warning others that they will be ignored if they dare to differ.

His wife comes on and threatens to 'disconnect the internet' because of supposed 'vile' comments on ATS, but decides against it, posting even more strange details.

Did I leave out anything?

I mean I've heard of being asked to believe 100 improbable things before breakfast, but isn't this a bit much even for the most ardent believer?

Not only do we have advanced technology, beaming, shrinking, paralyzing, extra-terrestrials, saucers, suppressed memories, but these advanced beings make multiple 'mistakes' and are defeated by primitive weapons.

reply to post by Dan Tanna


Could you post it again,as I didnt see the 'cube account',and I am versed in physics.

Originally posted by greeneyedleo
I was also curious and I have 2 questions:

1. I am a mother, and know the behavior of babies sleeping, etc. How one earth does a baby sleep thru all of that ruckus? I mean, I can understand sleeping thru a thunderstorm or the TV on. Or 2 adults having a normal conversation. But all that thrashing, screaming, etc. I just dont understand how a baby could sleep thru that?

2. How does you and your wife reach a level of "realaxation" after an event like this? I mean, I can look back on some bad situations I encountered. And they had me messed up for days and completely unable to live a normal life (eat, drink, socialize, computer time, etc). How do you 2 just move on like nothing happened? Stressed out people, want to know

Also, a side thought. Regarding the alledged clean up. Even if blood is cleaned up, forensics can still find traces of stuff that the eye can not see. I personally would have taken myself to a doctor as evidence of an assault...then had police forensics look the place over. Just what I would have done *shrug*

[edit on 6-7-2008 by greeneyedleo]

You don't live in the UK then. Social services would of been all over us like a rash had i gone to a Dr and said what I said here on ATS... any how..

1) Twiggy slept all the way through. I have no recollection of her waking, nor does my wife.Also she was cocooned in her baby bed all night to boot.

2) My wife is coping by talking to me and a few trusted people. She is a very highly regarded professional and in her circles has alot of open minded friends who know her well and are able to offer guidance and time.

3) The clean up. Did you read how they cleaned up ? although i will be looking at UV traces when by black light arrives.

Hey Dan,

I personally don't know what to make of your story, but as I wasn't there, I can't judge.

You've always seemed like a straightforward, honest member so I'll give you the same respect I'd expect If I posted something so confronting.

What I am worried about Is the safety of you and your family now. I'm pretty sure that such a reaction (regardless of how warranted it was) will have annoyed 'it', and 'it' may come back with friends.

There Is also the government / MIB side to think about (if MIBs exist).

Just keep yourself and your family safe. And keep that camera close.

Originally posted by Dan Tanna

Originally posted by Belthermar
Few Quick Questions Dan!

1) when you was hitting the creature can you describe it's screams?

2) Did it have hands if so fingers too and how many?

3) What is your perception on its strength? and battle technique?

[edit on 6-7-2008 by Belthermar]

1) I dont recollect any sounds at all, though my wife describes cires like an animal in pain.

2) yes it had hands and looking at them in my minds eye as they were palm up...three fingers and webbed slightly at the base.

3) Strength ? like a well built human but one thats never fought a battle for life before. Like a boxer who expects rules get shocked when a savage jumps them.
As for techniques, i feel that its mind was too focused on shocking me and not using its own arms legs and head as I was doing.

OK here goes, Dan their are things that worry me about this case. One thing which is a good sign is that you say you dont recall any screams. This would pan true with everything you say! But your wife hearing screams is a little worrying. As you state on many occasions the are NO NOSTRILS therefor there is no nose. This basicall puts the creature at a full fish stated reptile. Meaning for a fact no voice box or voice stimuli in the body.
Secondly you state 3 fingers but the marks on your body in the photo's you post state 4 maybe even 5 uneven finger scratches.
And lastly Imagine the technique of this creature not being able to focus. If it does have the ability to get into your house un-noticed and clean up. and post a defensive electrical charge when it "shuts down" It would be a much more evolved creature than ourselves. The chances of it losing focus are quite low.

Im not writing to you in a mocking sense im just tryin to build a case.

trying to figure out how to post images, well i tried to create this fish type creature using a starwars game this is what i come up with lol, does it look simular? :/

reply to post by Badge01


One: Dan DID NOT want to post this in general,I convinced him to after much debate and hesitation for just this reason,but I feel it is mine,is,yours,all of ours(as a member of federation called ATS )to get the truth,no matter what cost,as I have said many times.(See profile)

Two:Who are any of us to assume we know how et's work and 'what they wont and will do'?

Side note:Great to see you join the disscusion Badge(always a pleasure)feel free to drop by my new thread
America's 'Ultra Black' Programs: Part Two.I loved your input in the first thread

[edit on 7/6/2008 by jkrog08]

(damn smilies)

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