Iran says it can fire 11,000 rockets in a minute

Even if Iran did have the capability to launch such an attack, what good would it do? I think if we did attack Iran it would be an air fight not so much on the ground just my thoughts.

reply to post by TheRepublic


One could argue that you also seek to twist his words to mean what you want it to mean, so let's concede that his statements are a bit mystifying for the time being.

How do you explain his refusal of help from several countries in addition to the United States of peaceful nuclear power plus economic incentives? Russia has offered them help and they have rejected even that.

I have a feeling that Isreal will bomb Irans Nuclear facilities and Iran will do nothing. If they did it would be suicide. If they launch an attack at Isreal, the US would have no other choice but to attack. And I am not talking about a ground invastion. I am talking about taking out all their military positions and leaders with laser guided bombs.

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i didnt twist anything.
i have no idea what he said. i know arabic not farsi. those proffesors i cited were people that speak farsi translating the document. they can be trusted. how do you know what he said?

fox news told you? do some reasearch before you propogate propaganda.

the reason he dosnt want international help is because iran is a soverign country not under control of the globalist movement. anytime we give "help" there is a price, and it is paid for in national soverignity and oil contracts for global corperations. why do you think we have military bases in 130 diffrent countries? because those countries have accepted our "help"

this is what iran seeks to avoid. they want to be free of global control.
i admire that because the globalist have turned my country into an empty shell of what once was. they have whored us down the river and use our soldiers to fight wars for them all over the globe while our country is rotting from the inside out.

Originally posted by kindred
I guess that sums you up your mentality. Let's make fun of the situation, while innocent people will probably get killed and there's also the possibility that it could so easily escalate into a full blown world war. There's no justification for attacking Iran and yet people like you would only be too glad to see Iran and it's people turned to dust. I guess the only thing that America is exporting these days is hatred, ignorance, death and destruction. But what's new!!!!!!

By the way, it works both ways. What goes around, comes around........

Funny I thought it was the Iranian president that was all over the news across the world stating he will destroy Israel and Israel will be left in dust...etc,etc,etc.

Plus did he not have a convention of sorts to try and show that the Holocaust did not happen?Yes thats right and he invited all of his pen pals from all of those wonderful fun filled countries with their wonderful leaders that are quite the example of humanitarianism. Who is it spreading hate again?

And Israel or the United States have enough fire power and stealth technology to knock out missile installations and communication facilities before anyone has a clue as to what's going on.

Facts are facts people -

The US invaded Iraq - 7 years later are looking like pulling out because they can not succeed and US troops are dropping like flies - this is in a country with nothing - literally.

The U.S. invasion of Iraq was an absolute joke - please lets face it there were the most stringent military restrictions in place to ensure absolute defencelessness prior to invasion - and still - America is THE laughing stock of the military world every where except the minds of Americans.

Its like some ridiculous 1980's karate movie - kid thinks hes real tough (AMerica) goes around bullying every one (the world) gets his arse handed to him and ends up buffing mcFly's car al'a Biff.

Instead of telling everyone about how AWESOME you are why don't you ask people for an impartial opinion ?

Seroiusly, the person walking around the room telling everyone how tough they are, how they are going to kick evry elses but are usually the weakest -
and lets face it - you are weak.

Apart from a carpet bombing of defenceless civilians in Haiti or Panama you generally lose. Vietnam anyone, Iraq anyone - you even organised a coup in this very country which appears to be the reason why things are as the are now - you failed in that one too -

The reality is that Amerians have no idea - think they know everything and are invincible - but simply are not - that is the real truth that Americans need to learn

Like to see you pick a fight with a country your own size - bunch of pansies.


Iran controls the Gulf - END OF STORY - invade Iran and the rest of the Shiite world is in - period - you wil have a pan regional war - BAD ! BAD ! BAD!

This would without doubt bring in much of the central europe, definitely much of the middle east and may well spark a clash of civilisations bringing in Indonesia etc.

Russia, India, Pakistan, Sweden and China ALL have extensive interests with Iran and they WILL move to protect what adds up to their long term energy survival -

You start on Iran and the rest will come in behind them - it is simply one war too many - if this happens America is going to get smashed all over the ball park.

Having picked a fight with almost everyone on the planet - countries are lining up to have a crack back at America - It is pure madness to think you can beat the entire world - it is pure madness to even want to do that.

This is NOT about America, Israel or even Iran - it is about the entire planet - peace among nations - developing a better world for all of us - not simply white Americans.

There is a real, engendered and absolutely justifiable resentment of Americans and it is threads like this which highlight the reasons why.

Learn to think - as it stands - Americans are well and truly last on the ladder when it comes to that ability - no matter how big your guns are.


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Well said Therepublic. Everyone of your posts earned a star, as your the only voice of reason and common sense on this thread so far. Everything you said is true, not that it will make any difference. The warmongers will simply ignore your post and continue to peddle their hatred and ignorance, ranting about how the Iranian president said this and that. But like you said, it's all propaganda and lies. You would of thought that most people would of learnt a valuable lesson from the propaganda and lies leading up to the Iraq war, but I guess some people are just not interested in the truth and are only too eager to buy into more of the same. For some people, war, hatred and ignorance is like a drug and unfortunately they are addicted to it.

Audas - So true, another mature voice of reason and common sense.

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Its just a big conspiracy. There is a lot of money riding on oil futures at the moment.

The big rollers get their mates in the White House to create a bit of tension in the middle east & hey pre oil hits $200 per barrel on the supposed supply problems, the big rollers make a few $Billion, then back to normal again.

Originally posted by audas
Iran controls the Gulf - END OF STORY

I snipped this tiny bit from your huge, ranting (and frankly ignorant on so many levels...) post because it highlights one of the main issues here. Control of the Gulf. You're wrong in asserting that Iran has control of this area - although that's what it clearly wants. The US also wants it. And if you think the US will not attack Iran I'm afraid you're very, very wrong.

The rest of your post is typical American bashing - you seem to think all Americans are the same, and if you've ever been to the US it was probably for a holiday to Disney World and now you think you're an expert on the American people. Go away

Originally posted by mystiq
You should research what HAARP does to missiles. But my question is, when they all mulfunction, where do they land. And I certainly hope not Canada, Norway, or Sweden. And of course that would depend on the will of those, who have publically proclaimed the wish to depopulate the world.

HAARP doesnt do anything to missiles. Not enough power.

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thank you. it is soo sad to see people falling for the exact same propaganda again. I believed the propaganda about the iraq war and supported it at first, but now its is horribly obvious the war was based on lies.

i think people need to ponder the old proverb that says:
"fool me once shame on you
fool me twice and im either an idiot, or an arrogant ahole who cant admit when im wrong."

regardless if this war does happen i am leaving this country. i think ill go to costa rica.

I see the propaganda machine is in full flow against Iran. Only a matter of time before they get invaded. Incremental media conditioning, with a hint of doublethink generally gets the job done. The question is, whether the people will actually believe the crap that is used to justify invasion this time around. Expect many stories like this to take centre stage in the news, in the next few months or so, trying to make the Iranians look crazy, and make Americans angry and willing the "pre-emptive war" via misquotes and spin.

The reality is, the Iranians are merely trying to put off the inevitable, they know they will be attacked, they don't want to be though. They haven't even done anything wrong, except be unfortunate enough to be near Israel and have a lot of oil and gas. Iran as a nation state isn't part of the NWOs plans, although its oil and natural gas is. Perhaps a nice false flag attack in Israel will be used to justify invasion. Now, its just a case of sit and wait for those of us who are not blind.

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US Troops are dropping like flies?

Flies must not drop very much. 7 years of war and not even close to 5,000 dead. Every lost life is a tragedy, but less than 1,000 per year is a pretty good record for losses in a war. Take a look at WWII if you want to read about soldiers "dropping like flies."

I gather from your post that you aquired most of your information about the United States by reading other people's blogs and letting them shape your opinions for you. I guess that beats thinking for yourself any day.

It reads a lot like, "Blah blah, America sucks, blah blah, Americans are fat and lazy and weak, blah blah, Let's all just get along, because clearly nobody is looking for a fight except America."

Do you, and the many like you here on ATS, really honestly believe that there are 6.5 billion people in this world, 300 million of those people want war, the rest want peace, and by some odd coincidence all 300 million of those people ended up living in the same isolated country? If so, I have some advice: Get real.


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The quote goes like this: "You fool me once, uh, shame on you. Uh, you fool me twice, uh... you can't get fooled again." It's an old quote from Tennessee. Actually, it's probably from Texas, but it's probably from Tennessee. ;-)

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They've made this claim before. If I'm to understand correctly from other threads and articles posted here at ATS, we've been attacking them "covertly" for at least half a year now, blowing up bridges, organizing opposition, and "readying the battlefield." Thing is, they're crazy, not stupid. Odds are they know why these things are happening in their country, and yet, no 11,000 rockets have been launched.

Naysayers said we'd never take Afghanistan. They said China and Russia would stop us. China and Russia did nothing. The Taliban insisted up until their ousting from government power that Americans were losing the fight. Then the Taliban toppled and they went into hiding.

Naysayers said we'd never take Iraq. They said China and Russia would stop us. China and Russia did nothing. Saddam's followers insisted up until their ousting from government power that Americans were losing the fight. Then Bagdad fell and they went into hiding.



Now, don't get me wrong people. I'm not rooting for war. I'm against the Iraq war, I'm against the Afghanistan war (Why should we be out to kill bin Laden after he's made such an effective CIA agent for so long?) and I'm against a war with Iran.

But I am not one of these delusional people who is confused about which government is still standing after the first two wars, nor am I in any doubt whatsoever of America's ability to win a war with Iran.

China, Russia, or the Middle East fully allied against us - yeah, those we'd have trouble fighting. But the predictions of such forces intervening have failed to come to pass, and they've failed for a reason: It ain't happenin'.

How many missiles they can launch doesn't really matter.

Iran is not a threat. If the United States REALLY wanted to avoid war, mass troops in Israel. This would be the largest deterrent for Iran to keeps it's missiles where they are.

If the United States want to bomb/invade/topple Iran ... keep up the B.S. rhetorics.

Half the people on the site falsely believe Iran is a threat.

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Being british i see alot in popular fictional drama like 'spooks' a bbc production, or 24 - that iranian sleep cells would be activated to conduct guirilla warfare in what ever hostile country it chooses. I hope that M15 and M16 can round 'em up quick, because weapons proliferation is more damaging than lobbing 11,000 missiles. What about that one missing russian nuclear warhead sitting in the suburbs of god knows where! Blame fictional drama writers those guys have nothing better to do that scare the # out of us lol

Well it depends if we decide to break out our fleet of ARV's (ufo's). And some laser beams or electronics weapons to knock out missiles. lol

Theres just no way we dont have crazy technology like this. WEve had 60 years of beyond top secret research loaded with trillions and trillions of dollars stolen from the people.

Thats not including the trillions that the secret societies could have funded too. Theyve been raping the world for a long long time. Theyve probably got a vault underground filled with more gold and jewels than we can imagine.

We've got people making free energy prototypes out of their garage. Imagine what those geniouses are doing with trillions. And do they have technology to genetically engineer smarter people, or enhance the scientists already alive. The possibilities are endless.

The problem is we cant use all this technology until they the right time. I think wit all our technology we'd squash Iran. But I hate to see violence. Lets just all relax and have more sex.

Originally posted by onlyhurtsu

Well it depends if we decide to break out our fleet of ARV's (ufo's). And some laser beams or electronics weapons to knock out missiles. lol

Theres just no way we dont have crazy technology like this. WEve had 60 years of beyond top secret research loaded with trillions and trillions of dollars stolen from the people.

Thats not including the trillions that the secret societies could have funded too. Theyve been raping the world for a long long time. Theyve probably got a vault underground filled with more gold and jewels than we can imagine.

We've got people making free energy prototypes out of their garage. Imagine what those geniouses are doing with trillions. And do they have technology to genetically engineer smarter people, or enhance the scientists already alive. The possibilities are endless.

The problem is we cant use all this technology until they the right time. I think wit all our technology we'd squash Iran. But I hate to see violence. Lets just all relax and have more sex.

-And you know this, how, or are you just talkin' out your a$$?