The Final Nail In The Coffin: Irrefutable Proof the Flight 93 Crash Scene Is a Lie

reply to post by weedwhacker


Glad I could be of assistance Weedy.

Have fun!

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt

Originally posted by earthman4
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debris were found in a lake and I called the marina to verify. I forgot the name of the lake but I will find it. These were not pieces that would be blown by the wind there.

What marina did you call if you don't even remember what lake the debris were found?

I have the number on my old cell phone. I did this 3 years ago. Get a map, find the closest lake and call the marina. Or wait for me to get home and find the info.

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
Yes you are correct in that was the debate. (where you were defeated)

Thats so funny that you could defeat me with very little or debunked evidence. Too bad you cannot not debate the governemnt document i have prove of.


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I see some members at a loss for words.

I'd thank ThroatYogurt for bringing in this information....about UAL93....because I can sit on a fence, and hear both sides of an argument.

Much has been presented to support both sides, here in this thread.

Much emotion, tragically, has also been presented....and I do not exempt myself from that description. Sometimes, I let myself go, apologies.

Coming back to the OP....because, that IS the point of the original discussion...

Seems we need more evidence, before shutting the door on this one. AND, I'd like all of the 'noise' to be filtered out during the examination.

Just my two cents......

Originally posted by weedwhacker
I'd thank ThroatYogurt for bringing in this information....about UAL93....because I can sit on a fence, and hear both sides of an argument.

Much has been presented to support both sides, here in this thread.

I hope to help put an end to some of this debate when i get a unclassified copy of the document from NSA that states Flight 93 was intercepted.

Clearly conflicting the official report that no planes were near Flight 93.

Originally posted by ULTIMA1


I hope to help put an end to some of this debate when i get a unclassified copy of the document from NSA that states Flight 93 was intercepted.

Clearly conflicting the official report that no planes were near Flight 93.

You will not end some of it. You would end ALL of it. You would once and for all prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that 911 was an inside job.





But you wont. The document does not exist. The physical evidence (unless all faked and covered up by thousands) proves that 93 was not shot down.

Originally posted by weedwhacker

Seems we need more evidence, before shutting the door on this one. AND, I'd like all of the 'noise' to be filtered out during the examination.

Weed,

I enjoy your posts. You are very well informed and seem to have a good understanding about aircrafts, etc.

My question for you; What evidence are you looking for to "shut the door?"

Originally posted by ULTIMA1


Thats so funny that you could defeat me with very little or debunked evidence.

Well, be that as it may....shows the extreme lack of knowledge you too kinto the debate with me.

Too bad you cannot not debate the governemnt document i have prove of.

Kind of tough to debate something that does not exist.

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
My question for you; What evidence are you looking for to "shut the door?"

Any actual reports and physical evidence would be nice.

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
Kind of tough to debate something that does not exist.

Just becasue you ignore the evidence does not mean it does not exist.



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reply to post by ULTIMA1


Ultima,

Buck up boy... show us the document.

Until you do...it is NOT EVIDENCE!!!!

You like to talk about the court of law...

You are on trial:

Ultima:

"Your honor, I have a signed confession from the defendant"

Judge:

"Sir, can you please present it to the court?"

Ultima:

"Well, I haven't seen it yet, but I read somewhere that someone that knows someone knows someone that actually read it!"

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
You are on trial:

If i am on trial so are you.

Please post the official reports and physical evidence that support yuour claims or the official story.

JUDGE: Please show me your evindece.

THROATYOGURT: I only know what the media told me.

JUDGE:

[edit on 18-8-2008 by ULTIMA1]

Learn to read Utima...

Here are several reports from flight 93.

United Airlines Flight 93 FDR Report
www.ntsb.gov...

ATC Report United Airlines Flight 93
www.ntsb.gov...

Flight Path Study United Airlines Flight 93
www.ntsb.gov...

Recorded Radar Data Study all Four Aircraft
www.ntsb.gov...


Perhaps you can try to read these official documents.

Now stop your belly aching and come up with the document you are bragging about.

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
You are on trial:

If i am on trial so are you.

Please post the official reports and physical evidence that support yuour claims or the official story.

JUDGE: Please show me your evindece.

THROATYOGURT: I only know what the media told me.

JUDGE:

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If you are in the NSA you know the DNA reports from PA are correct, you also would know the FDR is real, making the shoot down impossible. Or is the intelligence part of NSA dead? What is your point?

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TY.....to answer your question, and I come from the perspective of a long-time airlline pilot.....I want to 'shut the door' on this in as much as....

I have yet to see, from the evidence presented, anything that does not conform to my experiences as an airline pilot.

ALSO, I have thousands of hours in the B757 and B767....they are considered one 'type' in the way the FAA rates pilots. They are similar enough, a pilot gets trained on one, then simply undergoes a few 'differences' training modules....which can be done, at home, on the computer....and a simulator check....and they're done! Good to go!

Same with the various versions of the B737.....the B737-200 all the way to the B737-900....once trained on one, a few bouts of 'differences' training, you're good to go!!! I simplify, but in essence, that's how it works. I also have a few thousand hours in the B737, just to let you know.

NOW....I still invite everyone to read the links, from TY....they don't always work, but neither does the Government!! (Ha Ha....a little joke)

BUT, when you can link to the NTSB files, you may find many answers, without all of the hassle of the FOIA requests.

I know that I am enjoying them.....

Originally posted by beachnut
If you are in the NSA you know the DNA reports from PA are correct, you also would know the FDR is real, making the shoot down impossible.

1. The DNA report has nothing to do with shoot down.

2. The FDR has nothing to do with shoot down.



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IVAN....I have exactly ONE ATS account.

Your inflammatory accusation is unwarranted.

You judgement is now called into question.

We'll let a Mod decide.

Folks, there is a large yellow flashing message at the bottom of every thread in this forum. As fast as things are moving on the board, it's virtually impossible to keep up with every post in every thread on every forum with anything close to real-time scrutiny.

It would be a huge mistake to assume that because the occasional inappropriate response slips through, that's a license to not follow the criteria for participation.

If we could please remain on-topic and not personally insult or attack our fellow members, that would be excellent. After all, if there aren't two sides to discuss, the discussion will be short and boring.

Thank You.

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yeahright....the big flashing yellow banner gets my attention!!

I think that ThroatYogurt brings up a good point, about a similar crashed airplane.

OK...the BAE 146 was a cute jet....not nearly as big, of course, as a B757

Why in the heck it needed FOUR engines? I'll never know....unless, to save money, BAE decided to use four small engines instead of two larger ones....

See? This is how airplanes get designed, sometiimes.....depends on the company that designs it!

(remember the XB-70?)....a smokin' hot design, from a pilot's perspective....but, budget cuts....(guessing the SR-22 was the 'Black Project' result....but that's another conspiracy, for someone else)

ANYWAYS....topic at hand....


OOPS....I wrote a lot, and may direct it to the wrond thread....and I don't know how to link another thread to this one, which is actually relevant...

Darn! I can type, but my computer skills are....well...terrible!

I'm guessing a seven-year-old could do better!

Where was I? Oh, yeah!

The PSA crash....wasn't long after, my Airline Career started to be worse, and worse.

THIS, in 1987....see, a 'fired' airline employee had a valid ID badge....because, BEFORE he got 'fired', he claimed to have 'lost' his old badge....and guess what??? They gave him a new one!

SO....when he was 'fired'....he used to old badge to by-pass security....not hard in that day, 1987....and thus, exact his 'revenge'

Pretty sick, no?

BUT....we've heard of Postal Workers going, well....POSTAL!

OK, sorry for all the good workers out there...my Dad worked for the USPS....so it was a joke!

To complete MY story.....I was living in Denver, at the time....enjoying my job with a major airline.....and especially enjoying the fact that we just showed our Employee Badges, and bypassed 'security'.

Well, that all stopped in 1988! Because of this ONE guy!!

NOW, all airline (well not ALL airline) employees are forced to undergo the indignity that is called "Airport Security" nowadays.

It is what we call "eyewash" for the general public....

Think about this for a few seconds.....

ANY member of a scheduled Flight Crew, whether Pilot of F/A, can cause damage to an airplane, sufficient damage to be possibly fatal.

OF COURSE...the pilots have control!!! Hellooooooo!!!!

No matter....the Sheeple need to see the Pilots take off their shoes, and go through "Security"....to feel better.

It's all 'eyewash'

Folks....there are certain airports, which I will not reveal....where we DO NOT have to go through this charade.

YES....the average passenger....even the 90-year-old.....may have to be patted down....SHE COULD BE A TERRORIST!!!!!

But an airline crew? With proper ID???? It's baloney, intended to make you think we're all safe......

Just to finalize.....ANY member of the crew could bring down the airplane....using what is already onboard. BUT, they do not have a death wish....that's my opinion.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
(remember the XB-70?)....a smokin' hot design, from a pilot's perspective....but, budget cuts

They were trying to being back an updated version of the XB-70 as a mother ship to a space plane.



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