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Originally posted by Gorman91
All of which are silly socialist mind tricks to change the fabric of reality. because God forbid you should come to realize how wrong you are. You have to make it so your mind doesn't see the obvious flaws.
Originally posted by NuclearPaul
One problem with this idea is that some people have aquired their wealth by extremely hard work, while watching some others choose to do none at all. They might not be too happy sharing the rewards of a lifetime's hard work with these people, and if they were forced to, I think it's fair to assume that there would be violent resistance.
Originally posted by Gorman91
All of which are silly socialist mind tricks to change the fabric of reality. because God forbid you should come to realize how wrong you are. You have to make it so your mind doesn't see the obvious flaws.
Originally posted by asmall89
Hmm I personally think socialism isn't the best idea.
Most countries in Europe aren't totally socialist and thats good because there's a thin line between a total socialist economy and communism one(which is truly based off of the equally distributed wealth idea).
the majority of people hate taxes, you know what they are in socialistic countries like Norway? something like 80% what you make in a year. However you do have the benefit of free health care, more equally distributed wealth, long vacations which is extremely tempting if you ask me.
Even though economies that are based around the socialistic ideas tend to be more stable they are also more stagnant. It's harder to start businesses and get patents for inventions which means new technology takes more time being developed.
Going to a socialistic economy is a huge change from our current capitalist economy especially after such a conservative president.
Originally posted by azblack
**** the whole world, we are the one's they owe it to. That's the craziest proposition since we first got involved with all of their problems.
I agree with the Fed statements, is everyone aware the people who control it are the owners of our private banks?
Our govt. is the car dealer in this instance getting paid to fix it and hoping you don't feel the insertion of them ******* you.
Originally posted by Cyberbian
Yeah, why the hell should you be privileged to have a better life style just because you were born smarter, Studied harder, worked harder, sacrificed to get ahead. Did successful things, had the insight and fortitude to be successful, and took risks that paid off.
Just because you built a business which employees hundreds from nothing, why should you get to run it?
This reminds me of a chapter from a Kurt Vonnegut novel, where they decide to enforce equality literally, so they put weights on the hands and feet of people who can dance, and noise makers on the heads of smart people so they can't think better than dumb people.
I do believe that there should be maximums on personal income for executives.
I suggest 100 times the lowest wage in the business, including part time and temp workers, this way we will not all wind up temp or part time.
Why don't you socialists promote that?
Originally posted by jetxnet
Go live in Russia CounterTerrorist. See how well the redstribution of wealth under the old Marxist Constitution will do for you. Your quality of life will go down the shyter, I guarantee it.
Re-evaluate your Utopic vision, which is not reality and can never be. It only works on paper and that's the extent of it.
Competition drives human nature in the form of motivation to achieve great things. Socialism/Communism suppresses competition.
Originally posted by Ismail
Americans really need to get over the cold war ... most americans don't even know what comunism is ... for some strange reason, people in america believe it's ok to leave 90% of wealth in the pockets of 5% of the population, but not so to redistribute the wealth evenly.
to believe your average joe worker, who earns minimum wage in a 10 hour day factory job "deserves what he gets", and works less than the middle class, is stupid.
Your hardcore "capitalist or die" people are really scary. Not only are you prepared to kill for your TV, but you fail to see what the capitalist system has done to the world. Millions starve to death every day, because people like you take the food from their mouths, to sell it for more.
So the third world is just full of lazy people who don't want to work? Get a grip. They are starving because multinationals are making huge profits by exploiting their ressources. They employ 6 year old kids for half a dollar a day so that you can wear the newest addidas model
Capitalists, we are living in YOUR ideal world, and for three quarters of the world's population, it's hell on earth.
Originally posted by dawnstar
any economic system or government system that you can make up can be and will be exploited as soon as the people begin to find the loopholes, so, I don't really see where going socialism or ripping paul off so peter can have more is gonna help much.
now, if we could change the genetics so that those basic instincts in mankind that makes him want more, inspires him to degrade or devalue others, etc....well, that would probably help much more!
Originally posted by Ismail
reply to post by dawnstar
Anyone deserves the right to feed himself and his family ... the right for a roof above their heads ... the right to a decent level of education. It's not "believing", it's knowing that everyone on this rock is intitled to that. You'd be amazed at how less wars, famines and religious maniacs there would be if you granted every human acces to these basic rights.
You have been asked repeatedly where the Constitution says this. And repeatedly you have refused, either posting a link that does not provide the information, or quoting several men...who, with the exception of one, are not Founding Fathers.
You say the Founding Fathers did not want a privatized bank, but ignore the fact that in 1791, these same Founding Fathers created the First Bank of the United States, a privatized institution.
Originally posted by counterterrorist
Oh pleeee eezze. Bill Gates asked one of my friends to be his first investor, so did Steve Jobs. There are a trillion nerds. How do you figure Bill Gates by the age of 21 or so earned the right to a personal fortune of what is it now, 80 billion dollars. At least ALL the money should have been divided up equally among the people who did the work, all the EMPLOYEES.