Obama’s New Presidential Seal Likely Illegal

Fixed. Sorry. I am easily on the defensive around these parts.

Glad to have you aboard, ObamaMomma

(and i do love that avatar!)

anyways, i believe this brings up a good example of why its so hard to support the candidate of your choice


you have to not only worry about the opposition, but you have to be on the look-out for internal sabatoge as well

I dunno which one is more disheartening. I guess the external, since its so hard to disprove internal to the eyes of those in opposition.

IE:

i can easily debunk an anti-obama claim that he's gonig to jail for using a resemblence of the presidential seal

its harder to reduce a claim of "obama is my homey and he owes me a pack of squares, dawg" because that is the type of stuff that my opponents would use against me in an argument against obama..



i think i explained that correct

Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
its harder to reduce a claim of "obama is my homey and he owes me a pack of squares, dawg"

ok, ok, its a tie for quote of the day :lol

I must be tired, everything is cracking me up.

Wow, some of you need to lighten up!!

I am just disgusted with government in general and cannot get"psyched" over the prospect of an Obama, a Hillary, or a McLame.

I have awakened and have realized that one is no better than the other.

The new president (and i say, if there is a new president at all), will have to prove him/herself to me before i cheer for anyone.
At this time i do not beleive any of the wannabes have our best interests at heart.

I know Obama has not been elected.

As far as the "seal"...I was wrong i thought he was like changing the carpets in the oval office ....
Gosh i remember going to the oval office, those were the days!!!
It made me proud going thru the White house, i wonder if those days will ever come back.

SORRY ABOUT THE SEAL- If its just for campaign use, i dont see the problem at all!!!!!

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those carpets in the oval office will never be the same after Bill

ok, ok, i'm done, good night guys.

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YOU are soooo right!!!


G'nite momma

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That's so pretty, BH. Very you. And it would look lovely as a small platinum pendant (or navel ornament, if you're into that kind of thing).

By the way, I love the doe-eyed beauty in your avatar. Much better than that wizened old ape you had there for a while.

It can't be all that easy being a paid Obama Troll Andrew by defending such lewd acts of disrespect to our great nation. You must have no dignity.

Obama even removed the shield from the Seal which symbolizes the President's commitment to defend and protect the US Constitution.

Does Obama have a different Constitution in mind, say, a Marxist Constituion of sorts?

If he is a NWO Puppet, which many believe he is, than that could be the reason. Also, the rising sun is a NWO symbol, is it not?

Well, I guess now we know at least something Obama wants to change. Seems to me if someone like Obama gets elected, the United States of America will eventually lose its identity. We'll have to rename it the Socialist States of Americobama. How's that for an obamanation.....abomination? (however you spell it)



uh-oh....I might be one of those "Obama-haters"!

No doubt, many of his supporters blame some of his campaign staff for pushing the new seal on poor little victimized Obama.

Talk about making excuses for an arrogant arse that told them he wanted the new Seal, verfied it and made changes to it, put on T-shirts etc.

It's all about Obama and what he wants, go against his word (which he often does himself) and you're a racist war-monger who doesn't want a Utopia.

Obama has never been humbled. He has never known what it is like to be poor. He grew up with his rich Grandparents in Hawaii. He had his school paid for by his rich White Grandparents (who he snubbed).

He was a community organizer for a poor district in Chicago, but teamed up with partner in crime Tony Rezko in conducting Illegal realty contracts that they both benefitted from financially (in Obama's Chicago district).

Obama is a farce, a glass image that has no substance or good intentions.



[edit on 24-6-2008 by jetxnet]

I think there is nothing to worry about in this whole 'seal' thing. There are far more important things to worry about with this "Johnny Come Lately".

Let me digress:

For instance; Lets take a peek at his foreign relations attitude.

Kevin Rudd, the newly elected Prime Minister of Australia recently travelled to America. The only person who refused a meeting with him was Obama. Prime Minister Rudd meet face to face with all the other candidates but Obama snubbed him off and only offered a quick tokenesque phone call.

"Thanks Australia for being our allies and sacrificing your soldiers in every war including the war on terror" - now go away, your too small to warrant my time".

That's the message we got here in Australia. I don't personally know one person that likes or trusts him here. Don't worry, we think Bush is a @hole too!

Anyhow, guess what? Australia promptly removed it's troops from Iraq just weeks later. If this is how Obama's gonna treat his allies, I feel sorry for the direction of your country. We have long memories here in Aus.

I don't envy the choice you Americans have to make!

*sighs* the emblem is the least of my worries w/ this election. seems rather silly.

this election, either way it goes (bc it will take a revolution of some kind to get a REAL leader in office) still leaves us in the clutches of a corrupt government (or corrupt men behind the curtain depending on who you are asking).

for real... can ppl not see this? is it really believed that these politicians care about the american individual and the greater good of mankind as a whole? you really buy into the BS that there are seperate issues btw the two main parties that weigh on the mind of these candidates?

emblem changing, the signing of a flag, etc etc etc is so far beyond the least of what we are being faced with OR should be worried about.

but since the majority of americans are willing to sit back and be spoon fed lies by these actors.... oops, politicians, well then, we are pretty much screwed anyway.

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So, if we play by your rules, then President Bush is a communist and/or a terrorist for signing an american flag and for standing on a DOOR MAT of an american flag.

Is that a fair expression of your assumptions?


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To justamomma

im not concerned with a flag signing

but what you have to do is point out "well, is bush signing a flag wrong?" since jetx sides firmly with a republican side

i wait for jetx to read this, and then answer "yeah its wrong too!" so he thinks he can save face, then i reply with my information about McCain, making jetx look all the more hilarious in his own ignorance of the issues


My overall point? They throw mud at Obama for embracing the seal of the president, much in the way anyone here who uses the ATS logo for their avatar. But people like Jetx, who enjoy the pig sized helpings of ignorance from Fox News, are so happy with their elitist mind set, that they dont want to recognize how "not an issue" this is.

First they say "obama will go to jail for this, HA!"
then, after its proven that he cant go to jail for this
they say
"obama is a traitor marxist, HA"

So i reply with, "oh, i guess Bush is a communist/terrorist then, for violating the flag code?"

its a big pissing contest really. Im just trying to get them to see that the arguments they throw to the wind about obama are really just farce.

I have several "obama" things that im not fond of as well.
But i take the good with the bad, and am not so full of myself that i can't admit it.

To JetX and all the other paid McCain lackey's:

If you did a bit of research, you'd find that there is probably more important things you could be blasting obama for. He is, afterall, a politician. If "OMGZORS HE USED THE SEEEEL!!!!!!!one111!!!" IS the best you can come up with, then i'd say we have this election in the bag.

Good luck though - people new to the concept of research have a hard time weaning themselves away from The O'Reilly factor and sean hannity.

[edit on 24-6-2008 by Andrew E. Wiggin]

Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
I dunno which one is more disheartening. I guess the external, since its so hard to disprove internal to the eyes of those in opposition.

I wouldn't worry about the external too much either, from what I've seen. Check out the few posts below Astyanax's above. No sources, just opinions. When I look up "Tony Rezko" and "Kevin Rudd" I get the real stories.

They're so easy to debunk, sometimes I don't even bother. People throw around Tony Rezko's name like he and Obama went into business together. If they only knew the truth.

Originally posted by jetxnet
Obama even removed the shield from the Seal which symbolizes the President's commitment to defend and protect the US Constitution.

Yeah, I heard he took the presidential seal and ripped the shield off and said, "We won't be needing this"! ... and he laughed that evil laugh and then splashed blue paint all over it while spraying stinging foam from his eyes!

Does Obama have a different Constitution in mind, say, a Marxist Constituion of sorts?

See what I mean?

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YEAH

The new seal is the new logo of the NWO

Only we're gona call this new NWO by a new acronym
it's going to be the OFA

Obama For America

see? Its right on his logo!!

wow, you have such a keen eye to pick up on this Jetx!!!!. Lets go start a new thread about a logo conspiracy is the definitive proof of an NWO leader rising to power.

He's going to get into the oval office and convince Congress they should relinquish THEIR power
he's going to convince all of the military admirals and 4 star-generals that they should relinquish THEIR power

then it leaves OBAMA to rule all!!!!!!!!!

How could i have been so blind?!

He scrapped using the seal. I don't know if another one is in the works or scrapped it all together.

Can I just ask, what's the big deal? I don't follow US internal politics particularly (although unfortunately we all have to suffer US foreign policy) so I don't get what the issue here really is. The Obama logo and the Presidential Seal are similar, sure, but... well... every American logo I know features and eagle, it's the bird most signified with America. That's why it's on the Presidential Seal. There's no harm in using an eagle in your own logo. You haven't stolen it from the Presidential Seal, you've used a shared mythological image that represents your nation. That's like saying anybody who uses a lion in their logo in the UK is ripping off the Queen - "For shame! Such arrogance!" - Come off it, guys.

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RIP Pretty Blue Seal...

I wonder what he's going to use next and what people will say about it!

Originally posted by rexpop
The Obama logo and the Presidential Seal are similar, sure, but... well... every American logo I know features and eagle, it's the bird most signified with America. That's why it's on the Presidential Seal. There's no harm in using an eagle in your own logo. You haven't stolen it from the Presidential Seal- Come off it, guys.

- truncated


And the truth shall set you FREE!!!!!!!!!

My God. And Rexpop isnt even an American citizen that gives a rip about American politics.

If the UK can figure this out - why can't republicans?

But regardless of what you think about Obama's new seal (too bad he scrapped it, im keeping mine) *points to avatar*

its just another smear tactic that was ATTEMPTED by the neocons to dethrone Obama. If this is the best they can come up with

we have this election in the BAG

BARACK [/COLOR] [COLOR=WHITE] HUSSEIN [/COLOR] [COLOR=RED] OBAMA [/COLOR]

for President of the United States of America.

[edit on 24-6-2008 by Andrew E. Wiggin]

Dear America. On behalf of the rest of the world, could you please grow the hell up? Your country is coming apart at the seams. You have an endless war that is draining your economy, you have a banking crisis this is sucking the value out of your homes, you have gas prices that are skyrocketing and all of this is having a knock on effect on the rest of the world.

And what is your biggest concern? Obama has a new logo.

For the love of God will you Americans grow up?

Please, we are begging you.