What would the ideal weapon be?

Last 1 i promise:
An army of genetically modified bears that are capable of countering army's of storm troopers, with the use of logs, and other natural weaponary

HAH!!!! That is hilarious, dude. Right on!

Mr. M

A wave motion gun...i.e. a gun that shoots a huge ray which disitegrates everything in its path (from little comets to planets to huge stars) and which is instantly hits the target by cutting through hyperspace.

Originally posted by masterp
A wave motion gun...i.e. a gun that shoots a huge ray which disitegrates everything in its path (from little comets to planets to huge stars) and which is instantly hits the target by cutting through hyperspace.

Uhhhh....too much Star Trek or Star Wars maybe? Chill out on the Dragonball Z, bro. It's brainwashing you.

Mr. M

the ultimate weapon:
Super sized politicans capable of debating there ways out of brown paper bags, whilst destroying cities of innocest people that lie in their wake,
i.e.




I advise all to run and hide!

My Mama,

Allway's said, "Kill them with kindness". Try it, works for me

Polar Bear

Originally posted by sugeshotcha
Lampyrider wrote:

Time travel. The ultimate weapon, if you can get around the paradox effect. When a war begins. go back in time and sabotage all of your enemy's hardware. Fast forward to the future - press the button and boom! No more army. The possibilities are limitless. If a soldier gets killed, bring him back from yesterday (I'm ignoring paradox).

Like The Philadelphia experiment perhaps?? Also, on a serious not moving on from my posting of the Elmo pic previously, I think an ultimate weapon would be a biological one such as those microscopic cells sized robots which are like a manmade virus. Kind of like a human-made cancer whereby its speed can be electroncally controlled by a human. If the speed is turned up it just eats you away in one minute and your entire skeleton is gone.

I should smack you on this note, the Philidelphia project was not time travel, they were gone for 15 mins, i hardly classify that as time travel, i mean the were tranported through SPACE TIME not through time space.

You are all wrong! The teletubbies!

i mean look at them, they could probably bring in ssg's to a school and be let in cause they are so cute.

PLus they scare anyone from the ages of 7-120 out of their own lives if met in person! The entire population of Earth. Really scary. I think the red one got busted for crack.

The ideal weapon would have to be the star trek phaser. Set to kill, set to stun!

I have even heard cops say that a star trek type weapon would be the holy grail for them.

Just This Again.

^^^^ hahaha gotta love the chappels(sp?) show. tyrone biggums!

[Edited on 14-3-2004 by masterofpuppets] woa my points are 911

[Edited on 14-3-2004 by masterofpuppets]

First of all I think you'd have to clarify the question to what the weapon was needed for. Taking out hard targets or mass killing etc.

Personally, I think the ideal weapon would be a "beautiful woman" who can control the guy who controls the weapon.

Twin samurai swords and a metal pole as a standby, that or a tank with large rotating knives on the side.
(or a stone)

[Edited on 15-3-2004 by FreeKish]

The again a combine harvister is always good:

I think a big neuralizer would be the best weapon, like MIB. Remember Neurological connections in our brain are formed from habit kinda. So if you broke the neorological connections in our brain and programed your own. Then the person would be fighting one moment, and kissing your feet the next. Think about the cognitive science in this, just because its a movie, doesn't mean its not possible to create.

The ultimate weapon is the human mind. First of all, it's the only thing that can create other weapons at will. Remember every weapon ever created was origionally born in someone's mind, whether your talking about the stick one child uses to hit another, or the 50 megaton thermonuclear bomb the Russians Detonated in the 1950's. The idea that took naturally occuring items from the earth and made them into tools used to hurt or kill another person was born in the human mind.

Tim
ATS Director of Counter-Ignorance

A Maus Tank with Thickened DU armor, Turbine engine, 155mm Cannon that can fire Nuclear shells, integrated flamethrower and Nerve Gas sprinkler. Full NBC protection and a 30mm Gatling gun as coaxial weapon.

Pwn, just Pwn.
Oh #, i have the feeling i already posted this!
DEJA VU! NOEZ!

ok, any more...and sorry i haven't replyed in a while i thought people had stops replying to this post, well anyway any more?

To bring the conversation a bit more serious and on-topic, let me be verbose about the "ideal weapon".

1.) Personal Offense/Defense: this has been written about many times in sci-fi and sci-fantasy. A.E. Van Vogt's "The Weapon Shops of Isher" is an excellent example. Most people want a weapon that disables or kills other humans, and similarly-sized wildlife. In sci-fi this has been laser pistols, blaster handguns, tasers, antimatter pellets, etc.

Real-life handguns have not significantly changed since their inception in the early 1700s. Projectile weapons. Slug throwers. Colt .45 ACP. Beretta 9mm. That's about the exent of it.

The problem with going beyond projectile weapons is the amount of electrical energy needed for lasers and particle beams. Only quantum leaps in superconductivity and perhaps zero point energy research could bridge this gap.

Tasers are in the news as a "stun only" weapon, but they fail to mention the dart and wires needed to deliver the electrical charge to the target. Oh, and they are one-shot: if you miss, you can't reload in time to hit again.

2.) Small Assault Weapons: this is when you don't want to disable/kill just one target, but a lot at once. Think shotguns and sub-machineguns. Or blow down a door in a frame, or take out the side of a house. What we have today are very large bullets that house additional explosive material designed to detonate on impact. They're called grenades. Some are hand-thrown, but they can be designed to be shot out of a "gun", albeit one that cannot take the same shell as the smaller shotgun or bullet. High-explosive rounds are the same bullet with a special explosive in them.

3. Hybrids between personal and small assault: the U.S. Army is developing one, the Objective Individual Combat Weapon (OICW). It combines the "personal" 5.56mm with the "door-busting" 20mm timed grenade. Generally law enforcement types, socialists, and tyrants don't like the citizens owning this type of weapon (or grenades) at all, since if you could hold off large amounts of soldiers, you could "forcibly protest" said soldiers knocking on your door in the middle of the night.

Science fiction/fantasy loves trying to have people with this type weapon. See the "phasers" of Star Trek as an example. If a phaser could be built today most legislative bodies would decree it an "assualt" weapon and try to ban it.

A Star Trek phaser comes close to the "ideal" weapon definition because it is an adjustable weapon. You start off with a Stun setting that increases to Heat/Maim, and then Kill/Destroy levels that include Incinerate and Distintigrate. The energy requirements for such a silly-science weapon are extreme.

4. Large anti-bunker and warfare weapons: these are the tanks and artillery of today. These are meant to destroy large amounts of people and/or buildings together. Most tanks and self-mobilized artillery that include "crew-served weapons" require multiple people working in concert to deliver large amounts of shelled explosive to a target. This leaves the discussion of "ideal" personal weapons.

Railgun rifles? Get real. The science behind railguns requires them to be crew-served weapons at the very least. "Doom" is a nice video game, but not realistic for weapons.

An "ideal" personal weapon should allow the wielder to simply stun a human target, maim if necessary, and kill when desired. No single technology today does that - marksmanship allows for projective weapons to come close, if the wielder is highly and exclusively trained in his or her weapon. An "ideal" weapon should never run out of ammo, never jam, never need cleaning, be a perfect fit to the wielder, help the wielder aim, etc. That leaves out most projectile weapons, and enters the realm of energy weapons.

An "ideal" projectile weapon should be able to take a wide range of ammo sizes, be easy to draw and easy to fire, have little or no recoil, go from single-shot to full automatic when desired, and fire without jamming even when fully submerged or afterwards and full of muck. The "ideal" size is handgun, not rifle: ask any soldier who's had to carry a rifle for a full day if they would like to switch to an officer's handgun instead.

For the possibilities of variable-bullet handguns, just watch the "Judge Dredd" movie.

We don't have an "ideal" weapon today (no discussions about land mines). Too many situations call for weapons other than the standard 9mm or .38 handgun. If I might venture into near-future science fiction, I might be able to make a handgun that combined a slug thrower with an adjustable Zero Point Energy Matloff laser and an electrical arc caster. You could use the laser to point to a target, and the elctrical arc to stun them. At higher settings, the laser blinds and then burns a target. But a wide range of slug ammo would be needed for any and all types of targets.

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