We Weren't Designed To Eat Meat, Here Is Proof

reply to post by Danger Girl


carnivore: has claws? I'm a carnivore and I don't have claws, oh yeah dolphins
and snakes are carnivores also and they have no claws.

herbivore: no claws? Rabbits have claws, don't believe me? try to pick one up.

I happen to have 4 sharp pointed front teeth.

Don't forget I mentioned dolphins and snakes, they kind of don't match anything
you put on there and they are both carnivores.

I think meat is supposed to be a supplement but not a mainstay.

I watched a show once where they had a group of people sit in a zoo and eat nothing but fruits and vegetables, to see if humans could live on a vegetarian diet. They lost 11 pounds, but where healthier. Lower blood sugar, tryiglycerides, the whole nine yards.

BUT, the people had to eat fruits and vegetables morning noon and night, and were utterly exhausted from all the eating. Just to get enought to sustain themselves.

Meat gives us the ability to sustain us longer, and let us do other things. And probably became more prominent when we discovered agriculture.

Diets should shift to more fruits, veggies and grains and a little less emphasis on meat.



[edit on 3-2-2009 by nixie_nox]

I'll admit right off the bat that I didn't read the whole of this thread. At 47 pages who can blame me?

To address a couple of things I did see.

1. Humans are Omnivores, we are adapted to eat both meat and vegetables. This can clearly be seen from the position and shape of our teeth.

2. These comments about people who eat meat insisting that those who don't must do so. So far as I have seen it is vegetrians/vegans who try to push their beliefs on those who eat meat, not the other way around. We meat eaters tend to say, "oh, whatever, more tasty, tasty meat for us then." Whilst those who don't eat meat seem to have this constant need to push their view onto us that eating meat is wrong.

I do not believe that eating meat is wrong. (Anymore than I believe that PETA is really advocating the rights of pets - or companion animals, as they call them - hell they think that I am mistreating my cat simply by taking care of her. She sure doesn't agree and I sure as hell wouldn't let PETA get hold of her. I have read what they do to pets when they do.)

Originally posted by Cythraul

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
No worries If i see someone killing an animal to eat it
but the fat masses in there supermarket looking at sterile drug invested meat packed in foil makes me sick ...

Unevolved fools think they are carnivors ..

Just wanted to highlight this little section here and say just how much I agree. I'm not against eating meat per se, I just STRONGLY disagree with factory farming. No you're not a "man" because you eat meat - you'd be a man if you hunted, killed and skinned your own meat. Instead, all of these "honourable men" rely on pre-packaged prime cuts at a globalist supermarket. There couldn't be anything more dishonourable than that. If you're going to take away a creature's life, at least have the respect to do it yourself... or lay your eyes upon the carcass after it's done. Most children up to a certain age don't even know where bacon comes from - they don't know that the same cute piglet they pet at the local farm is going to end up as someone's bacon sandwich.

When I'm able to look into an animal's eyes and slit its throat myself, that's when I'll start eating meat again. That's honour, that's respect.

What absolute cultish crap !

Even if we wnted to, where would we be allowed to kill, skin and butcher meat when we needed it? I have been a hunter all my life and I have shot, skinned and butchered several kinds of small and big game. If I could supply my family with this type of protein on a regular basis, I would. I can't because hunting seasons are limited, tags are limited, and there are laws around the culling of protein.

Where would you have us find these animals that are freely available for killing and butchering? They don't exist, it is yet another foolish strawman put forth by the veggie zealots. It has no grounding in reality, and it can never happen, but i makes good press.

*Snip*

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[edit on 4/18/2009 by semperfortis]

I agree, thanks for the example. I for one will be using it at my next dinner party. I have a particularly "full-of-himself" Vegan friend that is in dire need of it. Unprovoked my ass,...

yeah you effed up i salivate at the thought of going hunting and eating what i catch never waste the animal at least respect your kill rules of the wild man.

Originally posted by Chadwickus
How STUPID is this woman????? fine you're vegan but for gods sake why in blue hell did you turn up to a 12 course Traditional bloody English meal!?!??!

Not stupid at all. She likely saw it as a soap-box. Most Vegan's love a soap-box.

Second line.

some animals eat their own poo for vitamins i dont think thats a plant or a meat its a poo. giant bacteria ball

You should really change your avatar. Oh wait, you mean co-exist with the animals, not your own species right?

My bad.

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Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by HIFIGUY

 

Actually, they took it for what it was, a joke! I then went on to make a few recommendations, and at the end of the meal, I was tipped quite nicely, thank you very much! Apparently, you have no sense of humor, as if you read my post, you would see that it was intended to be tongue in cheek! Must we always be serious? Is there a rule on ATS that I missed? Come on!

It's not an ATS rule. It involves the vegan code of dealing with pagan meat eating cultures ?

We are not worthy of their respect. They are far above us on the evolutionary (whoops, that should be creationary) scale.

We are the scum of the earth and the reason for man's downfall,....

Now pass the pork rinds,...

Originally posted by jimmyjackblack
You know, it's interesting.
Some of the most biggest, strongest, most healthy animals are vegan.
Guess they secretly eat meat to survive?
Lol, I think not.

-Jimmy

Like Tigers, Lions, Bears, Leopards, Jaguars, Killer Whales, Sperm Whales, dolphins, Cougars, coyotes, wolves,....

Wait, which ones were you talking about?

reply to post by UrsusMajor


What vegan code is this you're talking about? Are you simply assuming that all vegans hate all meat eaters? And what about vegan paganism...or is it pagan veganism? There is some very wicked generalisation going on here.

Originally posted by caitlinfae
reply to post by UrsusMajor

 

There is some very wicked generalisation going on here.

Not just wicked downright twisted. Half the Pagans I know are vegan. It was like a conglomerate of I don't know how many generalizations.

We are all just people and everyone is to individual to paint such broad strokes for groups of people.

I'm an Omnivore and I love meat. Ill eat meat till they put me in the ground. Enough about me.

A guy my wife works with was once an Omnivore. He met a girl. She convinced him to become a vegan. Over a 2 year period I watched him slowly whither away from a nice normal healthy looking adult to a malnourished skeleton. He swore up and down that he was eating allot and taking all the vitamins he needed and was getting lots of plant protein but he just couldn't gain weight.

I'm sorry to say but the vegan thing didn't work for him and he ended up in the hospital. A week later he was dead.
Vegan is too strict of a diet. You need a wide variety of all kinds of food.

Humans got really fed up [no pun intended] with being perminantly hungry
and found meat satisfied his/her stomach for hours on end, giving them time to do other things, like inventing the wheel, bows and arrows, better roofing once the women aggreed to leave the caves.

reply to post by Darkice19


Neither of us are doctors, and I feel very for this man and his family, but I suspect there was something else going on with him to have this disasterous effect on his health. I'm vegan most of the time, and I will admit to falling off the vegan truck in favour of cheese occasionally, simply cos I like the taste. I also eat eggs, from the free range chickens on the next farm. However, I know for a fact that I'm at my healthiest when I'm strictly vegan. All my stomach problems clear up, I drop the excess weight, and I feel much more energetic. My partner is the same.

There is no one simple solution here. What suits one person won't suit the next. We cannot say that a vegan diet is detrimental, as there is so much evidence to the contrary. It is well documented however, that a diet rich in red meat is bad for our health.

It's also important, from a vegan point of view to acknowledge the importance of animal welfare issues. These are usually the main motivator for a vegan to drop all animal products from their diet. Whatever your diet, it's really important to be aware of how the food you consume is produced.

humans weren't designed at all. we evolved and adapted, and that includes eating meat

one example is the neandertal remains which were found. The poor fellow had numerous injuries. A study revealed they were very close to the types of injuries a rodeo rider suffers, and that he was possibly injured hunting mammoth in a similar fashion to how a rodeo rider rides a bull

the point being factory farming didn't give us canines and the ability to digest meat

our ancestors did