angelic markings

Originally posted by saint4God

Originally posted by Illahee
I must now use my ignore button once more......goodby.

I think I'm next. I noticed those who refuse to engage in civil dialogue use it a lot.

No your getting a spanky spanky for not knowing the book.


"The only creatures to have wings in the bible are cherubim, seraphim, Archangels and the four beasts of the throne."

This is basic training for ministry. It is the single question that 95% of Christians can not answer properly. In fact its even in the training for ministry CD series.

You have to know everything the text says and does not say if you intend to be a steward. You can't spin meanings for a point counter point session.

Folks read it yourself, do not trust any pseudo internet missionaries. Then go back and translate to Greek even back to Hebrew.



[edit on 10-6-2008 by Illahee]

Originally posted by ronin_tengu
well i was just looking at this post, and to be honest i dont know of markings as you describe them. heres what i know for you: there are things like www.sacred-texts.com... (magic circle ,requiers the four angels of the corners), which is one of many seals supposedly used by king solomon, they were supposed to control demons,its big to big to discuss proper go and read. i think alister crowly adapted this from john dee's enochian magic and angel text, or somthin like that as both characters had more going on behind the scenes,www.sacred-texts.com... (the seal for saturn, and everry one is relating this to god at the moment, but all is not what it seems, make sure you understand who is who and what is what.)
some links that might help you get closer to what you want:
en.wikipedia.org...
www.myfortunesign.com...

but i would say if you want to find out more you have to look at the origins of angels and demons find out who documented them first.

thank you for the links alltho the keys of Solomon is not what i meant but the last 2 links are very interesting

Originally posted by Illahee
No your getting a spanky spanky for not knowing the book.

Enlighten me. What is it specifically that I do not know about the Book? It is not enough on ATS to say "you are ignorant". One must demonstrate how someone is incorrect or short of information in order to 'deny ignorance'.

[edit on 10-6-2008 by saint4God]

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See? That's what about I talked yesterday, regarding to Illahee. I hope you can convince this lost one and put him back to the right path. I would do that, but I'm already ignored by him.

I just did.

You can't change the literal word to match your feelings. If you do not understand what is incorrect, I suggest you do the translations as well as possibly contact a Hebrew speaking friend if needed to go all the way.

This is basic training for ministry. It is the single question that 95% of Christians can not answer properly. In fact its even in the training for ministry CD series.

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First off, let me state that I do not pretend to know everything, and that I may find out that I am comepletely and utterly wrong in the way I see the universe.
Their existence is governed by our beliefs? Wasn't it Rene Descarte that posited that our entire universe was essentially a dream of a demon or something like that? I know I don't have it comepletely correct, but this "secret religion" sounds like more of the cafeteria-type followings of the New Age Movement. By cafeteria, I mean that people take all of the stuff from different beliefs that make them feel comfortable and justify their actions, but do nothing that requires they sacrifice or do without. This sacrifice(for lack of a better term) is generally what brings about enlightenment.
I'm an atheist, but I also understand that some people need other things to hang onto, so if "secret religions" or "fairies" or whatever is what gets you through the day and helps you sleep at night, then by all means, knock yourself out.
I will also be registering so I can continue with this discussion if you wish.

Originally posted by Dark Crystalline
See? That's what about I talked yesterday, regarding to Illahee. I hope you can convince this lost one and put him back to the right path.

I'll do my best and thank you for your confidence and support. I know I've pushed hard with questions for you, but it is part of my job to "test everything".

Originally posted by Dark Crystalline
I would do that, but I'm already ignored by him.

I'm sure it won't be long until I am too, but will use the voice while I have it.

Originally posted by Illahee
You can't change the literal word to match your feelings.

Agreed and haven't.

Originally posted by Illahee
If you do not understand what is incorrect, I suggest you do the translations as well as possibly contact a Hebrew speaking friend if needed to go all the way.

This is basic training for ministry. It is the single question that 95% of Christians can not answer properly. In fact its even in the training for ministry CD series.

Enjoy your elite club. For the rest of us (whom you've suggested are too stupid to understand), we'll stick to the written word, history and entymology. No matter what translation you use, you don't get to heaven by 'secret knowledge' nor are you quizzed at the pearly gates.

[edit on 10-6-2008 by saint4God]

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I know I've pushed hard with questions for you, but it is part of my job to "test everything".

You didn't push hard at all with your questions. We've just made an excellent discussion as believers and your testing was completely understandable. No one can blame you for that.

I don't know if this will help but there is an Anglec Script also known as the languauge of Light. The symbols as translated from hebrew can be found in the book of Rezial. I have them shown here:

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Best of luck

Illahae you come off as a jackhole with that kind of ignore nonsense. Although crystalline is a bit condescending she has a few points. In the bible Concerning the rapture it describes angelic weapons as more of jets than anything else. Swords that are not like swords but rather swords that cut and divide the sky and bring fire and stuff.
But I remember Micheal and CO wooping Lucifer's arse while Satan was in dragon form (Long time ago defending Israel). Using swords.


[edit on 10-6-2008 by Zealott]

Do a google search on "Enochian". This is a supposed Angelic language with written symbols. However, it has its roots in the occult.

At OP

You are talking about stigmata I assume.

Stigmata happens when a fallen angel has enough power to manifest itself to physical harm you.

A dark arts practitioner will usually be the one to command the fallen angel to do so.



[edit on 10-6-2008 by uknow_me72]

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dude where do you get your info just about every source iv read on stigmata agrees that its a ecstatic experiance just like vison trances or speaking in tounges ect.

as for the "dark art" most who practic some form of occult practice myself included dont go around summoning or trying to control fallen angels. you want to see some realy dark magic take a look at catholic necromancy its a varient on greek and roman necromancy performed by the early catholic church and its about as dark and disturbing as you get.

edited for spelling.

[edit on 6/10/2008 by krill]

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I have been education on the dark arts for protection against them.

It's called knowing the enemy.

--- There is a world out there greater then what is seen to the eye. So many are going to have a fit.

--- Dark arts are just magic tricks that usess the sleeping falling angels to do their bidding. Send them at me you won't be the same.

--- That is not True Power only a trick.

--- You must have authority before you can command.

--- It all starts with education.

Originally posted by Zealott
Illahae you come off as a jackhole with that kind of ignore nonsense.

d00d! Chill. Grab some iced lemonade, a lawn chair and some carribean music. Although you had some interesting things to say after this sentence, I doubt anyone could hear it. Take a break, drop the name-calling, and come on back when you're refreshed.

Originally posted by uknow_me72
--- It all starts with education.

Ah yes, because all of us can out-smart a demon that has been around for several thousands of years.

Originally posted by uknow_me72
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I have been education on the dark arts for protection against them.

It's called knowing the enemy.

--- There is a world out there greater then what is seen to the eye. So many are going to have a fit.

--- Dark arts are just magic tricks that usess the sleeping falling angels to do their bidding. Send them at me you won't be the same.

--- That is not True Power only a trick.

--- You must have authority before you can command.

--- It all starts with education.

ok first you have been educated on "the dark arts" yet you seem to indicate that its all about fallen angels? if thats so then how come when i perfom workings based off of ancient greek necromancy which was practiced way before there was a jesus or christianity that they still work?

secondly zorastreian belifes which predate christianity had angels and demons as well what make you so sure your religons concepts of the two celestial beings is the correct one?

where did you recive this "education" ?? and by who? let me guess thats secret right?

Originally posted by saint4God

Originally posted by uknow_me72
--- It all starts with education.

Ah yes, because all of us can out-smart a demon that has been around for several thousands of years.

You have been around for several billion years also. Don't limit yourself.
It is not out smarting them. I am not talking about book education.

Education on knowing what you are dealing with.

When you use your strongest emotions of Power - Love - and Compassion you gain your geatest energy.

You can send them home.

You won't know how to unless your educated on it.

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you know you talk alot about this so called education with out realy saying anything. where did you recieve this "education"? who tought it to you? what deneomination does this particular field of study belong to? what about the many forms of religon and spiratuality that predate christianity and even judisim such as shinto, shamainic, animisim ect. were they all some how wronge but your denomination figured everything out ? or do you just not even take in consideration those faiths that are older then yours?