Sgt. Clifford E. Stone Answers Your Questions

Originally posted by Bob Down Under
So far as I am aware no one has brought up any suspicions regarding Mr Stone and his history as a crash investigator.

Springer & Joe Z I think it is time we heard your point of view regarding Clifford and other ATS members who has met him face to face.

I realise you guys have posted your knowledge of Clifford before but the skeptics and debunkers seem to need refreshing on the subject, also it gives them more oppertunity to question your statements.

Does there exist official US military acknowledgment of Stones role as a UFO crash investigator/communicator with ETs? Will Springer and Joe Z give us actual proof of the validity of Stones claims?
There are many men in the world who can talk people out of their fortunes and ladies out of their virtues in a face to face meeting. It is unfortunate but true that a mans word in this case needs to be backed by more than other mens words.

Originally posted by Bob Down Under
So far as I am aware no one has brought up any suspicions regarding Mr Stone and his history as a crash investigator.

Springer & Joe Z I think it is time we heard your point of view regarding Clifford and other ATS members who has met him face to face.

I realise you guys have posted your knowledge of Clifford before but the skeptics and debunkers seem to need refreshing on the subject, also it gives them more oppertunity to question your statements.

Does there exist official US military acknowledgment of Stones role as a UFO crash investigator/communicator with ETs? Will Springer and Joe Z give us actual proof of the validity of Stones claims?
There are many men in the world who can talk people out of their fortunes and ladies out of their virtues if given a face to face meeting. It is unfortunate but true that a mans word in this case needs to be backed by more than other mens words.
This keeps getting posted, so sorry. Not trying to drive my point home. How do I erase my extra posts?

[edit on 29-6-2008 by hammanderr]

reply to post by spacevisitor


Folks,

I tried to get a hold of Cliff by phone, but after his voice mail is filled to capacity, the message is “The mail box is filled, goodbye”. So I try to get a hold of him in the day time when he is not working. It’s frustrating, because I know Clifford; I worked with him in Roswell and afterward on different projects. I wish he could work on this full time, but he has a real job, which doesn’t pay much and the hours are crazy. Can I use that word? His hours are not normal 9 to 5.

Ever since I meet Cliff, I have been doing research on our visitor’s, anything from their life style, technologies, why they are here, etc. It’s very hard to find information which is official, through the FOIA there is limited amount of documents unless you know exactly where to look, this is where Clifford comes in. I will then do my own research, request FOIA doc through my sources, which can be the same as yours, You can go through hours and hours of research, verification of data, which sometimes takes manpower in terms time. You have to stiff through the thru and fake data, by verifying how documents where marked as classified when they were written. The best way is to look at documents that were de-classified that are not related to UFO’s. The government always marks classified documents the same way. Either if it’s for JFK, Vietnam, UFO’s, etc.

Being in the field of aerospace, I can kind of see what is real base on what I know, and what is completely off the wall. Of course I don’t do this on my own. I talk to Cliff and others to verify their stories, the beauty of the internet. I meet many UFO researchers and show what their real agenda is. If it’s greed or money driven, I investigate more. Nothing wrong in making money on UFO’s, but please use facts and tell the truth. Now we come to the issue of truth. Who’s truth, etc?

I check with the witnesses from the Disclosure Project, persons who worked on project and saw things, and then I say to myself, what they are getting out of it. I seen a few documents, and said to myself, they are fake, but it’s not place to say what is fake and what is not. I can’t know everything and I didn’t expect any one can. The way classified project are set up they are compartmentized. Not any one document is the smoking gun; I heard that term used a lot.

I think what is important, what will we do with information, are we going to share it, or advertise we got the smoking gun, etc. I feel people should not use their clearances to brag about that they know something or try to prove a fact. People with clearances; have them to protect our countries from the enemies who want to use that knowledge against those countries. A lot documents that actual explains our visitors might be also reference military SOP, etc. In the 50 thru the 90’s we had many wars, so countries tried to use the knowledge as an edge, etc. One document which caught my eye was; “Analysis of Flying
Object Incidents in the United States” Dated 10 Dec, 1948. De-classified, but originally stamped “Top Secret” It said in one paragraph; “If the objects have been used in a propaganda sense, it would be reasonable to assume that the Soviets would choose first to frighten pro-American nations in Europe with the appearance of a radically new weapon to counteract the ability of the U.S. to obtain full propaganda effectiveness with the atom bomb.” Of course we know now that the Soviet’s also had a UFO program of some sort.

Anyway, it’s getting late, and I have to work tomorrow, I’m in the process of trying to get more folks on this thread. Remember everything we read and see gets us closer to the truth. It’s up to us to investigate.

God Bless,
Joe Z.

reply to post by Joe Z


Thanks Joe, your words have all been very informative! Send Clifford our best the next time you're able to get ahold of him and keep on fighting the good fight! We need more people like the two of you out there. Can't wait to see who else you may have lined up!

SFC Stone good morning sgt I hope today finds you well and in good health. I have been reading this board for some time now and would like to say thank you for what discloser you can provide us.

My question is this SFC Stone, can you provide info on the new plasma propulsion drone that NASA has is it based on tech that we got from ufo's?

thanks again

SPC D

Well apparently Sgt. Stone has left us. So I won't bother to post any questions.
Here is the second line for the post. Maybe I'll check back after 50 pages or so to see if he returns.

Sorry I deleted the post as it was likely to derail

Fortunately Joe has a sense of humour!

(I can't help coming back to check here occasionally... even though my expectation level ought by now to be extremely low!)

[edit on 1-7-2008 by Has2b]

reply to post by Has2b


Has2b,

I like you sense of humor. It's funning at work they tell you to use email, but everyday we are going thru about 50 emails every morning. So I try to call the person or go to their desk. I feel the same with Clifford. Sometimes I should just try to email him. I'm in the process of taking Clifford's raw footage of his interviews and create some type of transcript. I'm new to this blogging, etc. If any body knows me, I can talk until the cow's come home, especially when I believe in something. There is some much to put on this thread, I need to get a hold of Clifford, I'm also concern about him, because usually I talk to him every other day, but with his crazy schedule, I talk to his answering machine if I'm lucky.

Will try to talk to you all tomorrow, have a good night.

Peace,
Joe Z.

Well well well ... As French , I 'm cartesian . As French , I'm very respectfull as to M.Cliffort Stone , wich seem to be very honest , with himself .

As cartesian I can only regret that not any evidence/proof has been shown in any way ; and I'm not alone ...

And it seem that I'm not alone to be cartesian here !
So please , M.Stone , would be very nice of you providing something - juste a little bit , I don't know - but somethingl lightning your history ...

And all of us cartesians wpuld have then ears wide wide opened to what you have to describe ...

Thanks anyway for spending so much time to answer .

Best regards

Here's some apparently new information on an ancient crash supposedly retrieved in 1968: Ancient crashed UFO

What do you think?

reply to post by guerande


Hi folks,

I talked to Clifford today on the phone; my scientist friend had the pleasure to talking to him also. He said that his schedule at work is crazy; he can’t spend time doing what he likes because in Roswell where he works, they his employer expects him to go through hoops and spend his time at work. Don’t get me started on how other people take advantage of Clifford. Anyway he said he’s going to try to get on the thread if they, his work or job gives him time off.

God bless,
Joe Z

Seems like they're giving ol' Cliff the run-around

it's been just under a week now with no new posts here.

We aren't dying off here are we? This is an excellent thread, i certainly hope not.

Just wanted to bump this up again and say hi to Cliff!

Take care and hope your 4th was wonderful and bright!

Hurry back, we love your strength and courage.

Hope your 4th was as wonderful and bright as you!

I found this 'alien flag' thought it could have been red white and blue, but oh well...

HAPPY 4th Of JULY !!!

reply to post by stonespiral


Nah, it was explained back a few posts and then with the holidays and family to boot, give him time he is loyal and will be back asap.

reply to post by Joe Z


I have read this post from beginning to end. I have never posted before. The one thing I can sum up is that Joe Z is a good friend to Cliff. Trying to keep us all in the loop and defending Cliff because he is sick or has trouble at work. But I have trouble believing that over a long three day federal holiday weekend Cliff could not have the decency to take two minutes to say "Stay Tuned", "Thanks! Zoe Z" or anything. That's more unbelievable than... Aliens.

reply to post by antar


I'll be honest, i actually remember that now that you say it.

Well don't i just feel silly.

reply to post by hammanderr


Hi folks, I'm back

Been busy on my 4th of July vacation. Went to a camp site with my RV. You wouldn't believe how many people are interested in UFO's. I talked to Clifford, they still have him working crazy hours. My goal is to get him out of Roswell someday.
There was a document he found on a website DTIC, called “Quantum Physics and UFO Phenomena”. Written by Thomas E. Bearden 1979. This was on a government website, approve for Public Release. What I thought was interesting is that there must be many scientists and engineers who wrote papers, etc explaining what they saw or worked on without disclosing any defense secrets. I would like to see more folks on here talk to Clifford and the others on this thread about what facts are out there. You know that they are not just going to spell it out for us; we have to do own research, and come up with some conclusions without forcing our beliefs on others. There are probably others who would love to hear more on this thread, but are afraid because sometimes it looks we are going around in circles. I will try to list the 12 events that Clifford was involved with based on what I know from Clifford and my own experience. I pray that Clifford will be ok and get back involved on this thread.

God Bless,
Joe Z.


[edit on 7-7-2008 by Joe Z]

Originally posted by Joe Z
There was a document he found on a website DTIC, called “Quantum Physics and UFO Phenomena”. Written by Thomas E. Bearden 1979. This was on a government website, approve for Public Release.

Hi Joe Z, I hope you don’t mind that I post that link here, if so please let me know.
For those interested in the subject.

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