Russian Pilot photos 9/11 as it happens

Originally posted by Apocalypse69
Did you notice the comment "He hid the camera so that nobody could know he was filming."

Paranoid even back then

Well, the only way you can understand this paranoia is if you are not American and have a different view point. Like, we don't trust America or Americans.



[edit on 1-6-2008 by mOOmOO]

Very interesting photos. It's nice to see new material is still floating around and making it's way onto ATS. Makes a change from these stagnant images and videos we've seen over and over again.

This rubbish about the missile being fired from the Woolworth building is almost as bad as Lear's hologram theory. I wish people would just keep it simple. I.E; Two planes flown by extremists, thermite/explosives set on structural points, controlled demolition. Occam's Razor people, use it.

Originally posted by Mad Larkin
Very interesting photos. It's nice to see new material is still floating around and making it's way onto ATS. Makes a change from these stagnant images and videos we've seen over and over again.

This rubbish about the missile being fired from the Woolworth building is almost as bad as Lear's hologram theory. I wish people would just keep it simple. I.E; Two planes flown by extremists, thermite/explosives set on structural points, controlled demolition. Occam's Razor people, use it.

Occams razor is a great tool.

Take the extremists out of your equation and iagree 100% with you. The 'known' hijackers are all alive - we don't know to legal proof WHO was flying that plane or what even.

That the building needed assistance in falling is in my opinion undeniable, and the reports of workers using heavy equipment in the days prior to 9-11 suggests just that - assistance was given in spades.

The video posted above is a good version because they slow it down and back it up.
That rod object comes directly out of the corner of the building.
If you watch other videos, you see a white flame coming off of it and about halfway down, it tumbles and you see clearly that it is a solid rod.
I have to go with the missile idea.
In this video, you can see that the gases that eject from the corner expands at such a high rate that it blasts back the cloud that is suspended at the East wall.
It pushes it back into a flattened disk and exposes the yellow core.

Woah, great pictures!

I've never seen these before. Great perspective!

Thanks man!

The rod is clearly part of the Aircraft. I am not saying that it was not a warhead. But I don't think it was carried on a missile if it was.

Could a warhead be carried onto an aircraft undetected back then?

If not, then you can insert conspiracy theory to explain how it could get there.

Originally posted by Rhain
These are some wild shots he has. He captures the second plane hitting.

Nice pictures, thanks for showing them.

With all due respect though, I don't see any plane hitting the tower. I clearly see a large explosion, but no plane. Let's not draw more from the pictures, other than what they show.

There were no planes, our goverment hired remote physicis to guide armed missles to hit the building, at the same time a black ops group called "the bush elites" were planting thousands of pounds of c4 in the basement, some specualte is was aboard a subway car but i dont believe that. All this was done with such effieciency that noone even saw them doing it. While all this was going down, several aircraft where hijacked and taken to groom lake where they sit today along with all the passengers. I believe the passengers have all be cryo froze until they figure out what to do with them. When everything was in place the physics were notified to release the missles, as soon as the missles hit the building then the "Bush elites" detonated the c4 after a reasonable amount of time had passed. Then all airplanes were grounded so they could fly the hijacked jets to groom lake. I have confirmed most of this information thru Rosie O'donnell. Which we all know has way better contacts being a celebrity. Most of the video documentary's we have of that day were pre-arranged people set up at sites to take photo's to help our goverment fake the muslim hijack story. I believe our goverment needed to do this becasue our alliance with aliens. The aliens have the technology to see into the future and some of the agency that were destroyed were behind unvieling our goverments alliance. If anyone can add more details to this let me know, I know it was also related to the death of President Kennedy but im not completely sure how. thanks

Im not the biggest 9/11 researcher in the world, but i do review a LARGE amount of information especially comparable to your average american,

i've read several different theories now, one of the theories i have only heard referenced but never discussed is a hologram conspiracy.

From seeing the video on here, i'm not a professional but I was a film student and did learn alot about film making, etc. but like they said in the video, it looks like bad special effects, especially when they go frame by frame and show the plane pierce the building and just disapear rather then appearing to damage the outter part of the building, in my opinion the building never showed any signs of damage until the explosion from within the building.

i mean the instant that plane hit the building the surrounding area of the exterior of the building should have been damaged, there should be some visible damage shown before the next frame where the explosion takes place, I'm not a expert but i find it hard to believe that with even the incredibly fast speed of a plane that it was so fast that it didnt damage the surrounding untill after the initial impact and that it just carved thru the shell of the building like a knife thru butter


i wonder what would it take to pull off a hologram of that size, if it is a hologram is it possible it was timed to conceal the missile or whatever else might have caused the explosion? im not saying i fully believe a missile hit the building, but i dont know what happened and that isnt something i would immediately dismiss

Originally posted by Dan Tanna

Originally posted by Mad Larkin
Very interesting photos. It's nice to see new material is still floating around and making it's way onto ATS. Makes a change from these stagnant images and videos we've seen over and over again.

This rubbish about the missile being fired from the Woolworth building is almost as bad as Lear's hologram theory. I wish people would just keep it simple. I.E; Two planes flown by extremists, thermite/explosives set on structural points, controlled demolition. Occam's Razor people, use it.

Occams razor is a great tool.

Take the extremists out of your equation and iagree 100% with you. The 'known' hijackers are all alive - we don't know to legal proof WHO was flying that plane or what even.

That the building needed assistance in falling is in my opinion undeniable, and the reports of workers using heavy equipment in the days prior to 9-11 suggests just that - assistance was given in spades.

I'm not very informed when it comes to the theory of there being no hijackers on the planes. I know some very suspicious phone calls were made from people (supposedly) on the planes, to loved ones. Do you think the planes which took off from their respective airports were landed in some deserted location and the planes which hit the WTC were duplicates packed with explosives? If so what happened to the passangers of the original planes? We're they bumped off?

reply to post by Dramey


You are correct Dramey, those individuals that the goverment dispatched were cheap cgi crews,,,,they could not use ppl with skilled techniques for fear if they had to get rid of them, they would be unknown ppl that they could get rid of easily or discredit easily... All they had to do is replace the missle with that of a plane, but little did they know that a missled makes a tiny hole where as a plane does damage the entire side of a structure, good catch,,,,man. i have to make a note of that. I am glad some proffessional CGI tech like Dramey found this.

reply to post by Mad Larkin


Those people were forced to call their love ones...i am sure our goverment told them that if they didnt they would kill there whole family. Just like a said, the gov did hijack the plances and fly them to groom lake, during the flight to groom lake is when the fake phone calls were made..

There are a couple of odd things in this video.
One is an alternating black or white shape that appears at the edge of the smoke, above the left edge of tower 2.
The other thing is the fact that only the sections of the wing that is close to the fuselage of the plane, throws up any dust, when it goes through the building.
I think the two things are related.
The missile that was following the "plane" was projecting the hologram.
It is really a cruise missile, so only the actual wings, that are not part of the hologram, has any affect on the building.
The form in the smoke is the vortex from the passing invisible projector craft.
As it sucks smoke into the vortex, it becomes partially visible.
This same thing can be seen in the video taken from West Street.The remainder of the plane shaped hole is cut out by smaller missiles that were released from the cruise missile, before it impacted, giving them a chance to spread out.

reply to post by jmdewey60


To be honest I think the hologram theory is kinda out there...It is far more likely they used cheap cgi to add the planes in to the video...

reply to post by jalien


I am not fully convinced, either way.
I have been studying this stuff, non-stop for about four months, since I have been out of work.
I have 19 videos on youtube that i made in the last month.
I started out to show how all these videos of 9-11, at least started out as real videos.
I tryed to also prove there were real planes involved.
After looking at all the photos and videos so closely, frame by frame, I have gotten to where I see missiles everywhere, but no "jet fuel".
As far as having the planes added later, that may have happened, I am not sure.
Another odd thing is how stressed-out Fairbanks looks in this interview.
He almost acts like someone who has been completely terrorized.

[edit on 1-6-2008 by jmdewey60]

Originally posted by jalien
reply to post by jmdewey60

 

To be honest I think the hologram theory is kinda out there...It is far more likely they used cheap cgi to add the planes in to the video...

Erm...what about the thousands of eye witnesses?

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here; what video did they add CGI planes to?

reply to post by jmdewey60


I have been studying this since it happened, I have a 360 gig hard drive full of information and videos of this issue. I have even been able to piece this tragic event to other events, studying the way the goverment has used different aspects of coverup in ways with 9/11 and then using them again for other reasons. I believe there true plan has not yet been revealed but that lvling those building and blaming the muslims was just one step in a bigger plan of eliminating global leaders one by one and trying to keep alien technology to themselves, they do not want to share with other countries. I have come to the point where I manually change my mac and ip address almost daily....and I have to keep my windows covered so that cannot see what I know. I also cant work at night anymore, my screens are easly visible after dark. I will not use my home phone anymore for it is now tapped. I have to walk a block and use payphones, which i think they know I am doing so i will have to find a new way to communicate with my sources. I am afriad I will not complete my investigation of this matter before I become a statistic

reply to post by jalien


Like I said before this was planned way ahead, they had crews in place. It only took sublimal messages in a crowd, or planted witnesses to scream "look at that plane" the goverment also has mind altering gas that they could have released and then they made all the witnesses believe they saw planes, thru suggestive practices...