McCain Trusted More Than Obama on Economy, Iraq, National Security

Latest polls show Obama has a 45% approval rating.

Originally posted by Keyhole
This country needs change,

Well then don't vote for Obama. He's a proven liar. He's proven to be corrupt. He's proven to be racist. He's CFR. He's proven to be JUST LIKE THE REST. No hope. No change. No unity.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
Had Gore, or Kerry for that matter become president the country, imo, would be in an even worse situation then it is now.

I completely agree.

From that same source, McCain is also seen as more of a 'uniter' than Obama.

(the stupid link doesn't want to work; its there on Rassmussen's site titled 'McCain Seen as Candidate Most Likely to Reach Across Party Lines.')

McCain is seen as the more uniting candidate by men and women, young and old, white voters, conservatives and moderates.

If that's true and that opinion holds up until election time, toss in that increasingly 'liberal' perception and you can turn the lights out on Obama's campaign.

[edit on 31-5-2008 by vor78]

reply to post by poet1b


you didn't say mosque I noticed. Africa is a country reeling from the most extreme poverty in the world, constantly looming over their shoulders is the possibility of genocidal war. AIDS has been tearing Africa apart for decades now. Obama's church has charity programs set up to help deal with this. Now you're making stuff up when it comes to a CHURCH spreading Islam... Mosques are supposed to do that. Please cite sources, I'm tired of debating incoherent ignorance, as your last few posts have proven to be.

[edit on 31-5-2008 by projectvxn]

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You could also do your own research, and educate yourself, but hey, I aim to please, here is a nice link, with sources that you can find to back up the sites claims.

www.lnsart.com...

"In December I was invited by Christian Solidarity International to accompany them to the Sudan to document the purchasing of slaves to free them. This is a remarkable story in the world. Against the backdrop of a continuing eighteen year war of genocide of the northern government predominantly Arab Muslim on the African Christian south, in a country that is the size of the United States east of the Mississippi River, It is one of the world's most tragic stories. The north in its efforts to force a national religion is conducting an unrelenting religious war to force the issue. It is despotism at its worst. Two million people have died in the conflict, mostly civilians. In the center of this carnage a huge slave trade is going on. Civilians, mostly women and children, with their husbands slain have little ability to resist and are being sold into slavery to the northern Sudan Muslims and the eastern emirates. Most civilized nations have turned a deaf ear to this great holocaust now going on. It is one of the shames of the world that considers itself civilized. These are the stories as they appeared somewhat edited in the Santa Fe newspaper New Mexican in the February and March of 2001. Included are images that appear in a new book, Africa, The Holocausts of Rwanda and Sudan, University of New Mexico Press February 2006 by Lucian Niemeyer

Found an interesting article on McCain's voting record.

McCain Voted With Bush 100 Percent Of The Time In 2008

CQ tries to determine what the president personally, as distinct from other administration officials, does and does not want in the way of legislative action. This is done by analyzing his messages to Congress, news conference remarks and other public statements and documents.

So, these studies only track votes when the President has an explicit, stated opinion on a bill. According to CQ, Senator John McCain has voted with President Bush 100% of the time in 2008 and 95% of the time in 2007:

John McSame (as Bush!)

Presidential Support
Year Support Oppose
2008 100% 0%
2007 95% 5%
2006 89% 11%
2005 77% 23%
2004 92% 8%
2003 91% 9%
2002 90% 10%
2001 91% 9%

[bJohn McCain and George Bush believe the same things on virtually every issue - the list of their agreements goes on for pages. But a better judge of a politician’s views is not how he talks, but how he votes. John McCain - when it counted and when he showed up in the Senate to do his job in 2008 - never deviated from George Bush’s position. Not once. 100%.

It’s all there in black and white. John McSame - just like Bush.

McCain Sides With Bush On Torture Again, Supports Veto Of Anti-Waterboarding Bill

McCain Defends Bush's Iraq Strategy

McCain Agrees With Bush’s Remarks on Appeasement

McCain Wants More Bad Bush Judges

John McCain: Bush's echo

McCain agrees with Bush on farm bill veto

McCain: Bush right to veto kids health insurance expansion

McCain, Bush Largely Similar on Nuclear Policies

The Bush-McCain Continuum in Foreign Policy

The Economy: Bush and McCain Agree

reply to post by Keyhole


Great post, Keyhole.

It's funny that just about everyone seems to be a Bush hater, yet are more than willing to have him run a 3rd term as opposed to Obama.

Hmmm...

reply to post by bigbert81


Hey Bert dude, if McCain doesn't know squat about the economy, Iraq or national security as you claim, yet people are still trusting him more on these issues than they are Ubama, that's not really saying much for "your boy" is it?

reply to post by Alxandro


Indeed.

Not only that, but it doesn't say much for Obama that he can't even break through the margin of error (when he's leading at all) against 'Bush Jr,' despite the fact that Obama is at nearly his highest level of popularity, while McCain and the Republicans are close to their lowest.

Originally posted by Alxandro
reply to post by bigbert81

 

Hey Bert dude, if McCain doesn't know squat about the economy, Iraq or national security as you claim, yet people are still trusting him more on these issues than they are Ubama, that's not really saying much for "your boy" is it?

To me, it doesn't say much for either the poll, or the voters which were polled.

Considering the Hillary will most likely win the popular vote in the democratic primary, and therefore should wind up taking the Nom in August if the democratic party wants to hang onto any level of credibility, people will be able to choose Hillary over McCain.

I am looking forward to the Clintons back in the white house. Bring back the prosperity.

reply to post by Keyhole


Seeing as ... they are the same party.. I would find it a bit odd if the percentage of agree, disagree where switched, ya know?

Unless you think McCain voting for Democratic policies even while being a Republican would be better. Well, I wouldn't doubt that you would..

A few, like Paul, well actually he may be the only one, vote against Republican policies most of the time... but then again, Paul is not a real republican, he is a Libertarian..

Republicans are Liberals in disguise.

Originally posted by poet1b

Considering the Hillary will most likely win the popular vote in the democratic primary, and therefore should wind up taking the Nom in August if the democratic party wants to hang onto any level of credibility, people will be able to choose Hillary over McCain.

I am looking forward to the Clintons back in the white house. Bring back the prosperity.

Wow, I can see that you are a fan of 'Hillary Math'.

Pfffft. You are only saying a half truth. Hey, much like Hillary enjoys doing!

reply to post by poet1b


All the prosperity you are referring to was due to the Internet Boom of the 90's, not because of anything, or anyone, Bill did.
Remember, the economy started tanking the last 7 months he was in office.

Yeah, typical Obama supporter logic, democracy doesn't mean counting all the votes to these elitists.

Clintons policies crafted the boom of the nineties, and you can follow the time line after the policies were enacted, and solid economic growth.

The repub congress with their contract on America created the internet, and the current real estate bubble as well, that has lead to our current economic problems.

Do any of you really think these neocons support Obama? Wake up, Obama is the only chance the neocons have of defeating Hillary.

reply to post by poet1b


where in this article did you see obama's name? How is obama directly involved with this? You seem to just be assuming that because this is taking place in Africa that it's somehow the doing of obama's family. Care to clarify?

reply to post by poet1b

Yeah, typical Obama supporter logic, democracy doesn't mean counting all the votes to these elitists.

Wow, Hillary says it and you believe it...hmmm...

And this was a flawed primary, so using the same argument Clinton and her team are using is incredibly one sided. You ONLY care about the people who voted for Hillary (despite the fact that she lied about running there), and not about the other voter's rights.

If YOU were truly being fair and honest and not biased, you would be for having it all over again, or split down the middle. Not just Hillary votes.

reply to post by projectvxn


No. I am pointing out what Muslims are doing in Africa, and being the Obama's family is Muslim, it is not hard to imagine him supporting them. Being that Obama has family deeply involved with gaining political power in Africa, it doesn't make sense to give Obama all this power by sending this aid to Africa. Clearly there is a conflict of interests there.

How much more information do you need? An invasion plan with Obama's signature? Look at the mission of Obama's church, look at their close ties to Islam. How much evidence do you need?

reply to post by bigbert81


I would love to see a do over in Florida and Michigan, Obama and his supporters chose to stop that possibility, because they know that at this point in time, Hillary would win by an even larger margin.

If Hillary wins the popular vote, then Hillary should be the nominee, that is how democracy is supposed to work.

reply to post by poet1b


You're missing the point that Hillary would NOT have the popular vote if Michigan and Florida were redone.

You are only counting the Hillary votes, and not the people who couldn't vote for Obama.

[edit on 5/31/2008 by bigbert81]

reply to post by bigbert81


No, with Florida Obama gets the votes he won, when it comes to Michigan then there is a problem. Maybe Obama should have left his name on the ballot.

Even if you don't count Michigan, or give Obama a fair share of the vote, Puerto Rico may still put Hillary over the top. A ten or fifteen percent victory gives Hillary the popular vote, and that is where her margin of victory will be, or maybe even larger.