Questions to an Occultist

Originally posted by The Soldier Of Darkness
Speaking to a medium, a true medium, not someone who advertises in magazines, could prove useful, they could pick up or perhaps communicate with the entity and ask it why it is there, what it's purpose is.

Would you classify North or South American shamans to be true mediums? I know, I know; it all depends on the shaman -- but lets just say, for the sake of hypothetics, that it was a good shaman. They can communicate with the monsters, right?

reply to post by Cadbury


I think a Shaman would be a great choice, altough their methods might be weird and even scary to some, i'd definitely consider a Shaman yes.

I really have no question that would be worth asking, I just wanted to say that I've never heard of this before. And I thinks it's pretty interesting. I'll even go so far as to call it pretty bad@$$.

Well, here's a question: What are the dangers you face practicing this?

reply to post by Echo3Foxtrot



Death and eternal damnation...well according to some that is...

The greatest threat I have had in my years of studying the occult and practicing magick was truly evil beings trying to influence me, or take over my mind and body, that is a very real threat, this is why alot of study and practice is necessary.

In the beginning i had to do many protection spells before i would work any magick, sometimes an entity who is very strong would still come through, and i would have bad dreams, nightmares, i'd sleepwalk, but i would perform banishing rituals daily, and they eventually let you go.

I received a very powerful Guardian when i joined my Temple, so no more protection spells are necessary, one of the perks i guess.

Hi.

Here is my question (originally posted on page 11):

In your experiences, have you found there to be a link between music and spiritual influence or enlightenment (whether for good or bad)? Does music open a doorway or access point for spiritual influence? Or is it possible that music can guide thoughts and that is where the influence would take place?

Thanks.

reply to post by GirlNextDoor



Hell yeah!! thats the best way i can put it!

Music is extremely powerful, and can influence beyond your imagination.

Music is vibration, if you can tune music into certain vibrations with added noises, commands, subliminal messages, it could have a huge effect on the human mind.

Let's take "black metal" for instance, one of my favorite bands are called behemoth, and the second i start listening to it, my whole attitude and mental state changes almost instantly...

Hope that answers your question

Thank you for your answer.

Really intriguing.

Would you say this happens only when you're attuned to the music, or also unwittingly, say with casual listening or even just background noise?

reply to post by GirlNextDoor



Your subconscious mind picks up everything around you, whether or not you are paying attention, so it will effect you either way.

Music is extremely powerful, and can influence beyond your imagination.

Music is vibration, if you can tune music into certain vibrations with added noises, commands, subliminal messages, it could have a huge effect on the human mind.

Let's take "black metal" for instance, one of my favorite bands are called behemoth, and the second i start listening to it, my whole attitude and mental state changes almost instantly...

Hope that answers your question

Agreed. This happens to me when I play darker, older tracks by Venetian Snares, such as Pressure Torture, Find Candace (I dare you to listen to this the whole way through, really loud), Remi or All The Children Are Dead. I'm not much of a Metal fan but must admit I do enjoy the horrendous, angst ridden screams on the album Cut Your Throat Before They Do by Fate Of Icarus.

I've never heard Behemoth. What would you recommend by them?

reply to post by Cadbury


Their album "demigod" is really good, i don't have a particular favorite song.
They are on youtube, just search for them and u can watch some of their music vids.

I'll definately be checking out the music you just mentioned.

Originally posted by The Soldier Of Darkness
Their album "demigod" is really good, i don't have a particular favorite song.
They are on youtube, just search for them and u can watch some of their music vids.

Understood. I will review them immediately.

I'll definately be checking out the music you just mentioned.

Let me know if you need any help finding any of it, if you know what I mean.

Edited for ridiculous grammatical errors

[edit on 26-5-2008 by Cadbury]

reply to post by The Soldier Of Darkness


Have you ever experienced being tortured or beaten in your sleep. Like it was your spirit body it was happening too? I have encountered a being or beings that believe it or not had "whips of flame" and was very mad at me for some reason or another. It was as if I had ruined some plan of "it's" and "it" was trying to "whip" me into obedience. I am a Christian and have experienced other beings and so so on while more conscious as well.I feel I am active in a spiritual war because I am an enlightened illuminated Christian. I don't play and I know my authority and am aware the authority in Christ. Now all this happen in to a believer in Christ.
Don't you think it's possible that your little spirit Buddy's are just laying low just to keep you under there influence. And from what you said now they are just sneakier about it before they had you scared it would seem, until you got your Guardian or whatever (another level of deceit in my opinion). I understand curiosity don't get me wrong. upon a visit from several beings that were examining me , I did ask question telepathically , not sure if I really should have been asking questions but it was my inner man that asked my voice came from my chest and asked them."What are you doing?" They replied " trying to read your mind"..wierd uh? any how I gave my personal experience so you may see that I really do understand to a certain degree these experiences that are laid on us by these beings.I look forward to your comments regarding your souls safety and so on....
FG

Interesting reading. I’m new and randomly stumbled over here. These questions are really for anyone who has 2 cents regarding this…..a long while back I read a book on exorcism and it discussed how some fundamentalist Christians will have regular exorcisms. It’s a large group of people and all very theatrical in nature with the speaking in tongues, vomiting, etc. Basically these people are trying to remove the “demon” inside them that makes them do bad behaviors like overeating, alcoholism, watching porno, etc. I thought “That’s ridiculous!....They’re just using an imaginary demon as an excuse for their bad behavior.” But now I wonder if there is some bad “spirit” attaching itself to them encouraging them to do these things. Even more so, I wonder about myself….for the last year+ I’ve been having so much anxiety, sort of a overwhelming mental turmoil that’s hard to explain. How do I know if I just need therapy or there’s more to it? Does that make any sense?

And I certainly don’t want bad/dark “stuff” attaching itself to me, but so many people on here are saying not to get involved (and I have no interest into getting involved into the occult, magik, anything else) but how can a random person “protect” themselves? Also, I have been trying to work on meditation (I can totally block out thoughts, where it feels like I’m floating) in order to train my brain to sort of “shut it’s mental door” when I start having a panic attack…..but am I some way inviting something in if I do that?

And totally random question….is it more likely for a bad “spirit” to attach itself to you while visiting a cemetery?

Thanks……
Texas Mom

reply to post by firegoggles


I understand what your getting at there...

I myself have once woken up, to find entities all around my bed, they weren't very visible, but you could see the outlines of their bodies and faces, it was kind of glowing, it seemed they were going crazy, screaming at me, ripping and beating on me, though i didn't feel a thing.

It's hard to debate religion, because religion tells you this and that, like the bible, it tells you if you do not believe you will burn...

I just have a firm belief that there is more to the afterlife than heaven or hell, i have been shown many things, and i speak with my Guardian regularly...If my Guardian was some demonic being out to deceive me, how come he is able to say the name of jesus, and not get angry or frustrated when i mention jesus to him ?

reply to post by The Soldier Of Darkness


But have you actually performed experiments, in a scientific sense? From what I've read so far, you've not, and judging by what you've said, you're making baseless assertions left, right and centre.

So, from a scientific standpoint, you're making it up.

reply to post by dave420



From a scientific viewpoint yes, you could say everything I have said is made up, but even science admits the 4th dimension exists.

I could give my own more critical and certain viewpoints on here, but in the few posts i came close to that I was attacked for my viewpoints, so i will stay on the basics, and the people who ask my opinions in U2U, well i give them much more straight forward answers.



[edit on 26-5-2008 by The Soldier Of Darkness]

The Occult means hidden, most know that, science can not prove what is meant to be hidden, and i believe the occult reveals itself differently to many people, not everyone has the same beliefs.

one occultist believes in reincarnation, another does not...you pick these things up for yourself as you go along.

yes there are a few "facts" all or most occultists will agree on, but the rest is what you make of it and how you perceive it.

I have very few "certain" viewpoints about the occult.

Demonic & Evil beings exist, in this realm and many others.

Dark beings exist - shadow beings, dark entities and dark gods.

Dimensions exist - from the 1st dimension to the 9th dimension

Alternate realities exist

OOBE exists

remote viewing exists

etc

[edit on 26-5-2008 by The Soldier Of Darkness]

reply to post by The Soldier Of Darkness


Well since you asked I'll give my opinion to what it's worth. It sounds to me like your Guardian is an order of Angelic Being. As far as the "not being able to say Jesus" and so forth that is religous thinking, thats the same mentality the modern church has it's just silly. The beings are real the battle is real and it is my personal belief that they "can" say the name of Jesus. And some of the lower beings are so consumed with evil they have no real Agenda other than to display that hatred or try and possess a person and display rage.These are the ones that are so consumed with evil perhaps they can not utter the most holy name or whatever.I think you know what I'm saying. But from what I have experienced these beings can fully comminicate on any subject even of religous nature. Some show more distain than others depending on the beings personal disposition just like people. We all react a little different about different subject matter and so do they.
IF I may I would like to elaborate on my viewpoint just one more time not to try and recruit you I understand you are or were already a believer in Christ it would appear your still a believer to some degree any way I want to paint the picture I see because its a wholistic veiwpoint for most any subject brougth up here so here goes..

Again thinking that these forces can not even say the name of Jesus in my mind is "religous" in thinking.Just as the church thinks.Not trying to offend this is just my perspective on things.The authority of Jesus is real no doubt to me its explained like part of the laws of the universe.

The beings know that if they are told to leave or whatever and it's truly spoken as a "representitive" of that authority the "authoritiy of the name of Jesus" then they have to obey.Just the same as gravity works as part of the laws of the universe it just is the "law". Satan and his minions in my opinion have what some have described as "squaters rights". I think Satan had something to do with us being carnal like man was originaly something else a pure "light being" perhaps carbon based which would still line up with the "from dust of the ground thing" but carbon can make many forms and doesn't have to be "flesh" as we are now.So then satan tempted us to let him splice our DNA with perhaps "animal DNA" and perhaps even with that a splash of "Fallen Angel DNA"??From that point forward when men died they had no where to go and Satan began collecting the souls of men that should have ascended.This really piseed God off by the way Some call that holding place "The bosem of Abraham"(see I believe in more than 2 holding places in an after life too and there are many dimensions that will await us in the afterlife where we will rule as Gods reps!Well some of us lol!).Catholicism has it confused and thinks that place which is not used any longer BTW they call it purgatory and think people go there still..(doh!)So once Jesus did what he did he gained back the "squatters rights to mens souls through entanglement of our spirits to his and blam there ya have it the whole "saved" thing.It's not just about the topic of sins and such you see that is what "religion" has taught us.. Just a theory I have but any ways, I felt I had to explain a little more of my position just to be clear on my perspective and to shed more light for you lol that was a play on words eh? I hope you didn't mind me elaborating some I just wanted you to see the picture in a different light and I really beyond anything wanted you to know where I was coming from so when I say "I'm a Christian" you didn't draw cliché conclusions about me and would perhaps take my input into serious consideration as you continue on your path and journey in lfe.
FG

I suppose I am by your definition what is called a natural. I am highly clairvoyant and empathic. I do not practice majik, because I feel it imposes upon others' free will, inadvertently or not. Yet I am aware there is majik all around me.

I was raised Christian, but after many years of not finding what I was seeking,plus not being able to explain all the things I had encountered on a spiritual level (besides being told it is the devil) it just did not seem right for me. I view Christ as a great prophet and a healer. I believe in the existance of many Gods but only worship one whom I refer to as creator. I do not think most people actually worship the creator God, but whatever their beliefs are it is their own path of choice.

I have been attacked numerous times by lower energy entites while in a sleep like state. It happened a few times before I had a Near Death Experience but nightly for along time after.I was shown things that were weird and wonderful during my NDE including things that are ahead for planet Earth.

Incidentally these attacks happened while I was still attending church. It is the oddest thing because in this state I could communicate telepathically with these nasty,mean entities. They were shadowy at times and gray black blobbish outlines with teeth and claws others. I was rightfully terrified, which made them all the more voracious. What stands out most for me is the ability to quote certain areas of the Bible verbatim but in my regular consciousness I hardly know where to find anything. I do believe there is something to that, inspite not being a huge Bible freak.A piece of the truth lies in every faith basis on this planet. It is just how you interpret what is meant to be your own truth that matters.

I have also been abducted numerous times since I was a child. I do think there is a corrolation but have chosen not to fear it, just accept it for what it is. No small feat. I spend alot of time envisioning myself bathed in violet blue and white light.

My own experience with the occult in my teens was frightening, I witnessed someone becoming possessed by entitie(s) they could not rid themselves of nor did they have the knowledge to even be messing around with what they encountered. So many people do this foolishly, no means of protecting themselves. After years of viewing the occult as just evil I learned there is a flip side to the coin. I am on the good side.

I walk in light. I try to project that as much as I can. Good begets Good.

reply to post by The Soldier Of Darkness


So the occult is not reproducable. You are incapable of doing anything that affects the world you live in. You are incapable of doing anything you can be aware of. So, in short, by your own admittance, the occult is useless.

If you can do one single thing with the occult that can be recorded, such as talking to a demon or the dead or whatever it is you claim you can do, then that's scientifically testable.

The occult has to make itself known to you, otherwise you'd not know anything about it. The very form it took to make itself known to you can be tested by science. Using the rubbish argument that science can't know certain things, when you're talking about something you've experienced and obviously has an effect on this life, is a great sign that you're talking a load of rubbish.

Science is a method for studying things that can be observed. "Observed" doesn't mean "seen", but measured. If you can conjure up a demon - how do you know it's there? Can you feel it? Can you smell it? Can you hear it? If you can interact with it, then it's scientifically testable. The same goes for being psychic. Science isn't stumped by these claims, merely the claims are stumped by science, which is why believers absolutely must try to get the scientific method out of the picture, as it shows up the massive holes in this lets-play-harry-potter nonsense.

Cheers for clearing that up!