What the heck is going on in the UK?

reply to post by Alethia


Do you have any reason to post that, or are you just stating things you think are true without doing any research into whether they are actually true?

reply to post by darkbluesky

Although I don't believe single parents of either gender, or two women, or two men are well equipped to effectively raise a well adjusted child,

I take offence to that! I am a single father and have managed to sucessfully raise my daughter into a loving, caring, sweet little girl. What makes you so damn certain that single people cannot raise children effectively?

As to whats going on in the uk ? well a mass population control exercise coupled with the aimed and targetted destruction of the nuclear family as history has known it for two thousand years here in the UK.

The concept of a "nuclear" family is only 50-60 odd years old, not 2000 years! 2000 years ago and there was an entirely different family structure than what you see today. Even 200 years ago was vastly different than today, so what exactly is "traditional" about a nuclear family?

It sometimes seems that the system is biassed against marriage and "traditional" couples, to the extent that you a person is better off unmarried under the taxation system.

Thats not true. Married couple's each get a larger personal tax allowance than single people, so combined earnings in a married household actually have a significantly smaller tax burden than combined earnings in an unmarried household. Not to mention that if you have kids, you get further tax breaks and benefits, married couples are most definately better off.

Having said that, I do agree with your assertion that New Labour are definately anti-man.

reply to post by neformore


Have a star for that post, nef . Totally agree.

As for the human-animal hybrids, I'm all for it and glad the Government did the opposite of what I thought they would do and allowed it to continue.

The potential benefits are truly amazing and just because it doesn't "sit well" with some bible thumping God botherers, doesn't mean it shouldn't happen.

Plenty of things Jesus creepers and other readers of ancient stories made up by illiterate goat herders do bothers me, but I don't force my opinions on them.

At the end of the day, if you disagree with the research, then opt out of any treatments offered as a result. However, I'm sure you wouldn't be alive today had it not been for similar research that, in your eyes, played God as well.



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Originally posted by dave420
reply to post by Alethia

 

Do you have any reason to post that, or are you just stating things you think are true without doing any research into whether they are actually true?

I post that based on the news reports I read, the long list of unpopular moves the UK government has made, the recent by-election results seen in England, and the fact the PM has not been elected by the people. Thank you for asking.

Originally posted by Dan Tanna

Originally posted by dave420
reply to post by darkbluesky

 

So you don't think two women or two guys can raise a family? Then you're clearly bigoted.

Luckily for society what doesn't sit well with you sits well with most folks.

Actually it didn't sit well with 230 odd members of our house of parliment either and they voted against BOTH of these being passed... so the many are represented in parliment by their MPs and alot of them said no.

I would of voted no to both of the bills as well.

As to whats going on in the uk ? well a mass population control exercise coupled with the aimed and targetted destruction of the nuclear family as history has known it for two thousand years here in the UK.

So... not every one agrees with whats going on but our voices are drowned out sadly.

I think your confused... go and read the report again and you will see that it says that the ban on mixed hybrid embryos was turned down.
the bill was to stop this animal/human hybrid.

reply to post by Merigold


What's hilarious about this is that your own multiculturalism and openness will soon bring you Sharia law. Sometimes having standards, even about what one does with one's privates, makes a lot of sense. In the case of europe, 'sexual freedom' has led to infertility, which in turn has led to a deliberate policy of importing needed workers from neighboring muslim lands.

So you have traded the supposed closed mindedness of your christian heritage (from which all the concepts of liberty charity and freedom arose) for the tyranny of the muslim, who is taught to 'smite the unbeliever'.

This case of anything goes family types, will not lead us to the promise land, I assure you.

reply to post by Alethia


Don't listen to just the news. If people did that, their knowledge of other countries would be fantastically retarded. If I did that about the US, I'd have the impression gas costs $40 per gallon, and that there are 2 illegal immigrants (with machine guns) for every single US citizen.

The Prime Minister is NEVER elected in the UK. British voters vote for their local seat, and the party with the most votes at the end of the night are elected, and the party chooses who will be the prime minister if they are elected. That's why when Tony Blair stepped down, Brown took over. It's happened every single time a PM has stood down. The polls are swinging the other way in the UK, just as they are in the US. People want change, and they've had Labour in power for over 10 years.

reply to post by SevenThunders


No. Sharia law is not going anywhere that doesn't want it. May I suggest doing some research into topics before you start spouting off? It only serves to make you look foolish.

Your post was so drenched in idiocracy I can't even bring myself to break it apart. Saying multiculturalism will bring about sharia is just insane. And then the nonsense about sexual freedom. To me it sounds like you want women locked to the oven in the kitchen, ready to greet their husband coming back from the office with a martini. And it also sounds like you want non-white folks or folks from a different country disenfranchised. Pathetic.

theres no way that the creation of a human/animal embryo waited 'till this vote. scientists would have done this as soon as the technology was available!
i personally think its all a waste of time anyway as i think theres a natural cure for all diseases, diseases are a part of nature-therefore there must be a natural cure.

as for same sex families, i think any family, be it same sex, single parent or heterosexual, will bring up well adjusted kids as long as the parent/s are well adjusted and have morals.

Originally posted by dave420
reply to post by Alethia

 

Don't listen to just the news. If people did that, their knowledge of other countries would be fantastically retarded.

If I did that about the US, I'd have the impression gas costs $40 per gallon, and that there are 2 illegal immigrants (with machine guns) for every single US citizen.

The Prime Minister is NEVER elected in the UK. British voters vote for their local seat, and the party with the most votes at the end of the night are elected, and the party chooses who will be the prime minister if they are elected. That's why when Tony Blair stepped down, Brown took over. It's happened every single time a PM has stood down. The polls are swinging the other way in the UK, just as they are in the US. People want change, and they've had Labour in power for over 10 years.

I'm sorry, you seem to think you know me. I mentioned I read the news reports, that's not to say my knowledge of other countries is based on them. You have no idea of how well traveled I may be, of what knowledge I have and on what that knowledge is based on. Please get off your perch, before somebody knocks you off it.

The goverment policies is only reflecting a britain in social decline, even though i have to say i am in support of embroyonic research and the benefits against illnesses like cancer.

Traditional family values have been on a serious decline in the uk, evidently the number stabbings and bhing drinkers are on the rise, with more and more women drinking heavily, girls joining gangs.
I witnessed a brutal mugging today in broad daylight, i saw 5 balck males attack and mug a white male on romford road forestgate. Quite sad really.
The level of social decay in britain seems to be out of control but just like most things people dont pay to much attention to it until they are directly affected or become victims of the situation. Children from all races are involved in the problem and i dont even know what the future holds for some of this people because they them selves will suffer for their part in this social degredation era of britain.

Originally posted by dave420
reply to post by darkbluesky

 

So you don't think two women or two guys can raise a family? Then you're clearly bigoted.

Luckily for society what doesn't sit well with you sits well with most folks.

Hahahaha

That's so funny.

Actually it's you who is under a spell of illusion. Only gay or lesbian people would naturally agree...

Same sex parenting is without doubt child abuse. Feeding a childs mind with an unatural situation and presenting it as a norm is abuse.

If you want to have sex with the same sex then you should loose the right to adopt or to foster or to geneticaly reproduce through in vitro.


The future is comming and the tech you would advocate as being the savior to those who want same sex parenting will in fact be used to eradicate the gay gene all together.

NeoN HaZe

all children deserve the right to have BOTH parents (wether gay or straight), gordon brown is just carrying on from where tony blair left off.