DUDE!!! See these Vids.

Originally posted by FiveStarCeleb
So you think Youtube, is not valid research?
HALF, the Conpiracy theorists on ATS would disagree..

And as for my views, and my opinion..

My Views are that of reallity.
That; Which has already happened.. or is in planning,
by the united states government/illuminati Organizations.

Im a Reporter,. I Report too ATS.. We are the real dirt diggers...
AND WE DONT HAVE TIME FOR OPINION!!!!!!!!!!

We Report the Facts..

I Started this thread with videos that needed watching..
I Continued to gather other Videos, Which show the same existence of "Policeing."

Now, If I Have offended you.... probley not, cause I was just shareing other peoples lives.. Then, Im Sorry!!

But YOU are the problem.. not me.

AND IF YOU ARE COINTEL-PRO, GO TELL THAT NAZI; BUSH TO GET OF MY $*#@ AND DO SOMETHING USEFULL...

Your views are a reality in your mindset it doesn't mean we are all gonna jump on your thought process after watching some you tube video depicting some obviously disgruntled citizen annoying boarder patrols, it doesn't state where the border patrols are or what they are for, therefor you would be a bad reporter!
I do realize the suspect in the video is asked a simple question "are you a US citezen"
So here let me report for you for those that didn't click the link in your first post.

The Guy from www.checkpointusa.org was stopped at a DUI checkpoint in Tohono O'odham and refuses to show his ID direct quote below by the Detective at the scene of the incident.

Marc Victor: K. What can you tell me about, urn, to the extent you know, Mr. Bressi' s
involvement?

Det. George Traviolia: Mr. Bressi's? Urn, All I know is uh, he really didn't want to show us his all, his
driver's license. I know Lieutenant. Ford was and was called over by Lieutenant
Ford said that he had a problem and maybe it was, I could help. So I asked Mr.
Bressi ifhe'd show his license and he wouldn't.

Marc Victor: I mean did you, you actually said to Mr. Bressi that you knew he wasn't drinking.
His eyesw ere OK. His speechw as OK. His...

Det. George Traviolia: I, I didn't say that. I told him that.. .he said, " Do I appear intoxicated?" I believe
and I said, "No you aren't intoxicated," but this is also I explained to him it was a
license and registration checkpoint also. So that we needed to see the license and
~, : registration.

Marc Victor: So you told Mr. Bressi that he did not appear to be intoxicated.

Det. George Traviolia: Yes.

Marc Victor: OK. Were you the one who cited Mr. Bressi?
Det. George Traviolia: Yes I was.

Marc Victor: And for failing to comply with an order.

Det. GeorgeT raviolia: I, I ah, cited him; I don't rememberth e exactA RS statute.I don't have it in front of
me but I believe it was, ah, failing to show, ah, your driver's license and failing to
obey a police officer while directing traffic.

Marc Victor: OK. What did he fail to obey?

Det. George Traviolia: At that point, he failed to obey, uh, when I asked him to show his license, ah and
then he failed to obey when we asked him to leave the vehicle. Step out of the
vehicle.

Marc Victor: OK and what specifically did he say?

Det. George Traviolia: He didn't say anything.

Marc Victor: Well how do you know that he refused to show license.

Det. George Traviolia: Ah, we asked him and he refused.

Marc Victor: He just sat there quietly.
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Det. George Traviolia: Yes. He didn't say a word.

Marc Victor: Mr. Bressi never said one word to you.

Det. George Traviolia: No. He ah, I guess he invoked his right to remain silent.
DMeatr.c GVeiocrtgoer: Traviolia: HWee ll, saidh e nomthuisntg . have I askaeidd sohmime thinfogr, , at roignhet pobienct,a use he bI ecame argumentative and, lib,
he wasn't going to show us his license and so I said, "OK."

Marc Victor: Alright so he did say something to you.

Det. George Traviolia: Yeah, he basically said he wasn't going to show his license. He didn't have to.

Marc Victor: He didn't say, unless you tell me why or unless this or that. He just said absolutely
I am not giving you my license.

Det. George Traviolia: Yes.

Marc Victor: OK.

Det.:George Traviolia: That's when we told him he was under arrest and lib, he refused to exit the vehicle.
:' "',--
Marc Victor: What was he under arrest for?
-.
Det. George Traviolia: At that point, failure to show ill.

Marc Victor: Failure to show ill.
full transcript can be found here www.checkpointusa.org... views/TravioliaInterview.pdf

So basically now this guy is disgruntled and finds the time to find immigration check stops, video tapes it acts like a goof to border patrol workers, labels them homeland security check stops and I am sure he is going out of his way to find these check stops when all he has to do is answer one question" Are you a US citizen" but instead he acts in defiance and asks them questions in return which of course annoys anyone but he does this because he is disgruntled not because of what you claim there fivestarceleb which is nothing, you don't claim or express any opinion and just so you know the government has and will always be in control of you because you to them are capital gain.they make and have laws to keep people like you in check..think about it you'll live your entire life never knowing you've been had " it's what sheep do"

Reporters report things story outlines details evidence pictures etc, and all you can do is post videos with no explanation other than what your brain and thought process make of it which to me looks like complete ignorance?


I am not trying to be a problem just trying to show people there are two sides to every story and in my opinion if your gonna act like a goof to a officer of the law your gonna get treated like one, if you have nothing to hide and nothing to worry about answer the questions asked and be on your way.
simple as that....

So you think Youtube, is not valid research?

I wouldn't call YouTube valid research. Videos can be edited to suit one or the other view. The sound could be edited. I'm not saying that the guy faked all this, only that one shouldn't trust everything on YouTube to be the solid truth.

HALF, the Conpiracy theorists on ATS would disagree..

Which is why it is still called "conspiracy theory"?

Click here for more information.

And what does this have to do pertaining to what I have said and asked quit dodging the matter at hand your just showing your ignorance more and more....

Click here for more information.

The agents in the video are doing us, you AND the maker of the vids a favor. I see it this way. Homeland Security is not only trying to keep illegal Mexicans out of this country, they are working to keep out ANYONE who has no right to be here. That includes not only Hispanics, but others who may wish to do harm to our nation and its citizens. I thank God for these agents. I wish there were more of them! They certainly do not get paid enough having to listen to crap like on those videos when they are trying to protect the very people who are ridiculing them!

As far as the racial profiling issue.... I'll answer that this way. If there was a person(s) going around your neighborhood vandalizing cars, let's say. The police have witnesses who say they have seen the vandals, but cannot ID them. Those accounts have the vandal(s) of caucasian descent. Would you or anyone else really want the police to waste their time questioning blacks, hispanics, or asians in their search for the criminal(s)? I honestly think you would not. That's racial profiling right? Well, it just so happens that most of the illegals are of Hispanic descent. It also just so happens that most of the folks in this world who have vowed to destroy us are of Arab descent. So in my simple minded logic, doesnt it make sense to concentrate on those two ethnic groups when looking for illegal aliens or terrorists?? To me these vids are just a bunch of left wing "I hate Bush" crap. Bush has had his issues and made some bad mistakes in my opinion, but he has not allowed a second attack on our nation. Ya gotta concede that, and how many rights have you REALLY lost?

Sheesh.....allow another terrorist attack to occur and the dude who made these vids will be the first person to scream that Bush has done nothing to protect the country since 9/11.

Ya cannot have it both ways folks.

[edit on 2-6-2008 by Hugues de Payens]

ITS NOT ABOUT AGENT ABUSE!!!!!!!

ITs the agents job to respond, when a citisen askes why they are being detained..

Your Being, A Bit Over The Top With This Agent Abuse Thing..

THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE...

DID THEY JOIN THE MILLITARY TO BECOME A BOARDERPATROL GUARD?
NO..

THE COP DID..

COPS KNOW THIER RIGHTS>... PEOPLE DONT.. THEY KNOW THAT....

IF someone askes why they are being detained.. the cop has to respond...
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
THATS HORIBLE>>>......

GROW UP!!

"Agent Abuse"....that's a new one. So let me get this straight....just because I don't see things the way you obviously do, I'm a child. Cool! I hope I never grow up if it means being an adult by your standards.

The guy who made the videos was asking for much worse than what he got. All he had to say was "yes m'am or sir, I am a US citizen" and he'd be on his way. Nope...he couldn't do that. He's trying to find something that is not there. Like I said, he needs to be thanking the agents for their service.

LETS SAY HE WASNT A U.S. CITICEN...

Then What?

They Pull You over..
Make You Take off all your Clothes..
RAPE YOU!!!

IM NOT THE ONE WITH UNREALISTIC VIEWS...



MAYBE THE DRIVER IN THE FIRST VIDS, WAS INTERESTED IN HELPING INNOCENT MEXICANS, WHO WERE JUST IN THE UNITED STATES FOR VACATION.. SEEING RELATIVES..

I KNOW A GUY..

BIG DUMB DUDE..

HES JOINING BORDER PATROL..

SO HE CAN RAPE WEMON...


Mod Edit: All Caps – Please Review This Link.

[edit on 2-6-2008 by 12m8keall2c]

OMG dude.... that's abit of a stretch isn't it? I know this is a conspiracy website and all but wow. If your friend joins for that reason I hope he gets caught before he does something wrong. If not, I hope he fries for it afterwards. And don't you have an obilgation to report him if your accusation is accurate?

Also....emotions can be a bad thing. We are trained to be passionate, but to keep emotions out of the issue. That way no one gets their sensitivites hurt.

Your statements are off the rocker fivestarceleb where do you get the rape accusations from, have a you watched a few more youtube vids you haven't posted yet?

I will say what I have said again and maybe you wont dodge the point.
Your views are a reality in your mindset it doesn't mean we are all gonna jump on your thought process after watching some you tube video depicting some obviously disgruntled citizen annoying boarder patrols, it doesn't state where the border patrols are or what they are for, therefor and now your big dumb friend is joining and we care why? so he can rape women hey lol see what I mean by your own mindset you have to elaborate and explain your thought process instead of spewing it out for us to try and comprehend it is getting quite tiresome...AND CAPS IS FOR YELLING SO QUIT YELLING IN YOUR MIND :p we just cant comprehend senseless drivel.

It seems that most discussion on this site is dedicated to fabricating conspiracies rather than exposing them. I have seen these sorts of police abuse videos before, they are everywhere. Most of them are filmed by young adults practically if not whole heartedly provoking officers and then crying fowl. Well whaaa
The internet has provided people with a forum to defy the laws of physics and create matter from nothing, which is exactly what is happening here. How is being asked if you are a US citizen an abuse of your rights, perhaps you should proudly yes "Why yes, yes I am." The only place I have lost any freedom is in my wallet.
And the video with the guy saying he was Agent Faulk from the CIA...."Dial two, dial two, dial two...." Come one, he was freakin' high. He was not CIA, c'mon, you can kid yourself but don't try to pass that junk on to everyone else.
It is great that some people have the energy to change the world, but at least try to do something productive with it. Find something real, take some time and investigate it. Learn about it in more than a few hours. And if its really good, keep it to yourself.

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
It seems that most discussion on this site is dedicated to fabricating conspiracies rather than exposing them. I have seen these sorts of police abuse videos before, they are everywhere. Most of them are filmed by young adults practically if not whole heartedly provoking officers and then crying fowl. Well whaaa
The internet has provided people with a forum to defy the laws of physics and create matter from nothing, which is exactly what is happening here. How is being asked if you are a US citizen an abuse of your rights, perhaps you should proudly yes "Why yes, yes I am." The only place I have lost any freedom is in my wallet.
And the video with the guy saying he was Agent Faulk from the CIA...."Dial two, dial two, dial two...." Come one, he was freakin' high. He was not CIA, c'mon, you can kid yourself but don't try to pass that junk on to everyone else.
It is great that some people have the energy to change the world, but at least try to do something productive with it. Find something real, take some time and investigate it. Learn about it in more than a few hours. And if its really good, keep it to yourself.

excellent post!

YOU PEOPLE ARE DEGENERATES...

'bump'

to see the look on americans faces, when they see what you people have done..

Originally posted by FiveStarCeleb
YOU PEOPLE ARE DEGENERATES...

'bump'

to see the look on americans faces, when they see what you people have done..

And I hope I never have to see the look on yours after the Border Patrol check points are removed by a more tender hearted president, and we have another terrorist attack which may have been prevented by said check points. I'm sure you will be one of the first to point a finger saying the government didn't do enough to protect us. But what ever....you have resorted to name calling after telling me to grow up.....nice.

There is no such thing as terrorism...

No One Desides to do harm, too a society's people..
Theres no point...


America was never attacked by terrorists.. ever..
It was our own government..
Theres no point in attacking citizens..
unless your that country's government..
It keeps the people wanting more contol,

I BET..
BY THE END OF THE FUTURE..
THAT YOU AMERICANS, WILL BE BEGGING FOR MINDCONTROL...
TO END THE "TERRORIST" PROBLEM....

MEANWHILE THE NAZI RELIGIOUS PROFITEER GOVERNMENT OF
AMERICA/ILLUMINATI...

IS TORTURING AND KILLING THIER CITIZENS..

TO FATTEN THIER WALLETS,

AND YOU JUST LET THEM IN "THE FRONT DOOR"...


Terrorism doesnt hapen...
Never has..
Anywhere..

Even in Israel, Its just the "amero" government, and the CIA.
Doing PSY-Ops.. not even against the arab governments..
But for US, Back here at home..

All the millitary men who were killed..
And the Familys of the americans killed..
Do you think they would hesitate..
to Nuke every government in the middle east?
kill them all?
Its not a war, That we should be fighting..
So why are we there?????

TO CREATE RESENTMENT AGAINST ARABS..
So Bush can just nuke them, and get the oil..
Thats Probably how IRAN got the nukes..


MAKEING A PREDICTION:

1.A NUKE WILL GO OFF, ON U.S. SOIL...

2.THEN WE WILL NUKE IRAN..

3.PROFIT!!!

Theres Still time for Bush, to do this..
-OR-
He Will Have one of his "good buddys", do it..

Originally posted by FiveStarCeleb
There is no such thing as terrorism...

No One Desides to do harm, too a society's people..
Theres no point...


America was never attacked by terrorists.. ever..
It was our own government..
Theres no point in attacking citizens..
unless your that country's government..
It keeps the people wanting more contol,

I BET..
BY THE END OF THE FUTURE..
THAT YOU AMERICANS, WILL BE BEGGING FOR MINDCONTROL...
TO END THE "TERRORIST" PROBLEM....

MEANWHILE THE NAZI RELIGIOUS PROFITEER GOVERNMENT OF
AMERICA/ILLUMINATI...

IS TORTURING AND KILLING THIER CITIZENS..

TO FATTEN THIER WALLETS,

AND YOU JUST LET THEM IN "THE FRONT DOOR"...


Terrorism doesnt hapen...
Never has..
Anywhere..

Even in Israel, Its just the "amero" government, and the CIA.
Doing PSY-Ops.. not even against the arab governments..
But for US, Back here at home..

All the millitary men who were killed..
And the Familys of the americans killed..
Do you think they would hesitate..
to Nuke every government in the middle east?
kill them all?
Its not a war, That we should be fighting..
So why are we there?????

TO CREATE RESENTMENT AGAINST ARABS..
So Bush can just nuke them, and get the oil..
Thats Probably how IRAN got the nukes..


MAKEING A PREDICTION:

1.A NUKE WILL GO OFF, ON U.S. SOIL...

2.THEN WE WILL NUKE IRAN..

3.PROFIT!!!

Theres Still time for Bush, to do this..
-OR-
He Will Have one of his "good buddys", do it..

Pointless info !!!

This thread has nothing to do with terrorists, you are the worst poster I have seen here fivestarceleb dodging questions to do with the original thread and now just changing the subject with more nonsense.....
LAME

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