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Originally posted by Infidel 101
Islam is the new boy in town as far as the others go. Copied and expanded it may be, but it is still a story book with pop out bloody pages.
I will defend my right to live my life in my way in my country without the Caliphatists threatening my mother or firing bombs at my father. That is my right and I will defend it to the death. If a Muslim down the road agrees fine, but if he won’t help us rid this land of his more extremists brethren then he has a choice. Tuck in and help or leave. You can’t hope for political victory while denouncing suicide bombing.
Britain is Britain and Sharia has no place here. If Muslims try to enforce it then they will find war and furious anger brought upon them and they will be booted out. It’s the truth; ask anybody here if they want Sharia. Until 9/11 nobody in Britain was worried about Islam, it was a small issue to some but not all. That’s gone now. They are rightly under the spotlight.
Islamic extremism is cutting the throat of peaceful Islam. If the moderates won’t sort there own house then we will. Like it or not it’s true,
Originally posted by Rook1545
Originally posted by jsobecky
blah, blah, blah, whine, whine, whine.
Look, just because we say stuff that doesn't mesh with your rosey view of how things are, doesn't mean we are nazis or ignorant. In fact I would say it is actually you who are both. Why do I say this? You refuse to acknowledge the facts. My "co-defendant" (and I already corrected you on it) has shown you that your argument is a complete farce and at best, weak. You refuse to see any reasonable counter-argument and when you cannot counterpoint, you resort to using buzz words and namecalling. You seem to feel that you come from some kind of position of authority, you don't.
I would like to ask you a direct question jsobecky. I have yet to see your response to this incident (if I missed it I am sorry), I would like to know, what do you think about what happened here? I would also like to know what you think about the story about the Orthodox Jews burning the bible.
Originally posted by jsobecky
What do I think about the issue? I think the soldier was foolish for shooting the Quran while in Iraq, Insensitive, and sure to cause problems. I also think the general was a complete pussy for apologizing so profusely. He should have knocked the soldier down a grade, end of story.
As far as the Jews and the NT, I already responded here.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
when the solider attacked the Quran he attacked Muslims, thats how it would be seen as only hate for one culture or faith would drive someone to do so.
why else would someone want to shoot up a book?
Originally posted by jsobecky
You talk about people who ignore instances where moderate muslims decry terrorism. Yet you yourself ignore the fact that muslims have made it public that they want to impose Sharia on many western countries.
Now that is scary. It illustrates the mindset that some muslims have that says muslims can never do wrong or say wrong. Totally wearing blinders.
Originally posted by jsobecky
reply to [url=http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread356222/pg15#pid4378609]post
Is it against the law to hate? I don't care how you personally feel about it, I just want to know if it's against any law you know of.
And don't tell me that muslims don't hate the west. They burn flags, burn figures in effigy, and much much worse. So I think that their outrage over small incidents is just a little bit overdone. Some of them get outraged if you look at them crosseyed. False outrage and perpetually offended.:shk:
Originally posted by jsobecky
As I recall, some of the muslim detainees at Gitmo flushed the Quran down the toilets there. So why the outrage?
just as those of us in the west who don't want to be blamed for the actions of war mongers like GW and company need to speak out against GW and his gang turning the U.S. into the bad guys.
when the solider attacked the Quran he attacked Muslims, thats how it would be seen as only hate for one culture or faith would drive someone to do so.
why else would someone want to shoot up a book?
Originally posted by bodrul
when the solider attacked the Quran he attacked Muslims, thats how it would be seen as only hate for one culture or faith would drive someone to do so.
why else would someone want to shoot up a book?
so feel free to answer that.
Originally posted by bodrul
edit: do you even have a clue about holy war and its definition.
or the fact that the only fighting in Iraq is secterian violance and nothing to do with holy war.
do you even have a clue about the guidelines set out for Holy war?
Originally posted by bodrul
maybe you and the terrorists arent so diffrent.
only diffrence is i doubt you would have the cahoots to put your words into action.
Originally posted by bodrul
edit: this is my last reply to poet and jsobecky
since they will just repeat what they have said over and over on ATS
but seemed to have ignored anything that doesnt suit their agenda