Johnathan Reed's Close-Up Alien Blinking Video - best footage ever? (video)

Originally posted by visionandtruth

Slugs that is called LYING.

Quote copy and paste where I kept telling people to listen to you.
Once you can not quote that then you will understand why I no longer respond to you. Because you have now resorted to LYING.
Take care Slug.

Here ya go liar.

simple pjslug. your support of the case.
should be quite clear im supportive of the case. there anyone showing support i thank them for support the reed alien encounter.
thumbs up.

Look, heres anothe spot you did it.

Everyone else go back and check out PJSLUGS comment showing support towards all of the evidence that has been presented in this monumental case concerning the proof and existance of extraterrestrial life in the universe via the Dr. Jonathan Reed Alien Encounter which by the way is posted all over youtube.

And another;

These are good videos PJSlug.
Dan McEvoy's credentials very impressive. Lends credibility to his testimony. Thanks for posting that link.

And yet ANOTHER post where you did it.

Originally posted by visionandtruth
The following comment in this thread is the reason why Ive stayed around because I know there are other people out that that can see through the smear campaigns without question. And they, too, get sick and tired of disinformation goons who flock into threads trying to convince everyone that every encounter case with solid evidence is a hoax. My job is complete.

PJSLUG:
I assume hardly any of you have watched the full 3 hour lecture he and Raith gave at the UFO congress. If you had, you would not be so quick to write this off as a hoax. There is tons of evidence presented and the emotion of those 2 men really lends credence to the case. I assume you did not also watch the other youtube videos of compiled evidence from the case. I spent 6 hours last night watching all this, and it is quite remarkable. www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 28-1-2009 by visionandtruth]

Any questions?

Visionandtruth caught lying, but hey he wants you to forget about it.

Visionandtruth you are a fraud promoting a fraud.

Originally posted by impaired
CGI didn't hit the shelves until about 2002-2003 with Maya, which used to be called Alias Studios.

The only CGI program that was available at the time of the video was Lightwave, but Lightwave is incredibly hard to use.

What does CGI have to do with making puppets that blink? Someone claims that a puppet that blinks could be easily made and you rebut that CGI did not exsist on the shelves yet?

1- puppets are not CGI

2- The amiga video toaster could have been used and could have been used to do it in the '80s.

It seems a shame that people would do so little research into their own argument in favor of this obvious hoax.

Originally posted by visionandtruth


VISIONANDTRUTH:

People are amazing. The question concerning Reed being alive can be easily answered logically and Ive answered this question logically a number of times when dealing with the same questions concerning why Reed is alive.

So...just list these "top scientists" and we can check them out and their claims of belief in Reed for ourselves? You said he was with the top scientist in the world in Russia with the cosmonauts and instead it is a spanish tv show he was on?

Just give us the names and their quotes. If you are telling the truth, that should all be very easy to verify.

Is there a reason you insist what you say is true but have yet to offer the proof or evidence or even an anecdote?

This is one of the scientists..

Chacon

Harold Chacon - the supposed accredited 'Biologist-Analyst' who claimed to have researched and did the 'DNA testing' on Jonathan Reed's 'Dead ET tissue' turns out to be a co-worker of Robert Raith. Chacon and Raith have worked for years together - even presently - as employees of a gas station and mini mart in Seattle. These supposed professionals were perpetrating their identities with Reed having full knowledge of their background.

'Reed claims that a Microbiologist by the name of Chacon has analyzed samples of recovered biological material from the alien Reed held in his freezer. Chacon claims to have received his Master's Degree in Microbiology from the Catholic University of Puerto Rico. The Catholic University of Puerto Rico does not offer Master's degrees in Microbiology.'

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and Vision provided us with a link to that college and that degree to prove that wrong, only it was not actually that degree since that school does not actually offer that degree. I am still confused as to why he posts things that prove he is lying or really really stupid.

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Clint 'Free_Spirits' Eastwood writes:

posted on 12-2-2009 @ 11:05 PM single this post "quote"REPLY TO:

Originally posted by visionandtruth
i also love how they avoid the fact Reed was invited to Star City Russia by TOP SCIENTIST STANDING AMONGST COSMONAUTS. shaking my head and laughing. good work guys. continue deliberately avoiding the fact that top scientist in the world take Reed seriously. your words however mean absolutely nothing.

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FREE_SPIRIT:

Wrong, Reed was invited to Peru in August 2003 as well as Marina Popovich not Star City Russia and definitely not by scientists. Here is the webpage.

peruufo.com...

Don't lie visionandtruth.

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VISIONANDTRUTH:

Recently debunkers/skeptics and disinformation-merchants have tried to punch holes in my support for Jonathan Reed. And once again, with me being utterly bored by their useless attempts they have failed. Here's why.


The Letter Video shows a letter sent from third person vantage point, and its referencing Star City, Russia in the year of 2004 from a Former NASA Director...The picture at the end of that video shows Reed standing amongst Russian Cosmonauts. The Russian Cosmonauts with Reed are in Peru in 2003. I KNOW THAT.

I never said the picture with Marina Popovich is from THE 2004 Russian Conference. BECAUSE I KNOW THE PICTURE IS FROM PERU IN 2003.

Debunkers in their poor attempts to discredit someone act in haste judgement, overlooking their normal hair-splitting of words, and that usually backfires on them and works to discredit their claim to be advocates of truth and helps to expose them as simple minded debunkers that have nothing else to go on.

This is why I tell you types to keep up the good work guys. You have substantiated this case unknowingst to yourself through your extreme skepticism.





PS: There used to be a time when I liked making people eat their words on message boards. Now, its just boring. There is no fun in it whatsoever, at all.

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by nerbot

Originally posted by impaired
CGI didn't hit the shelves until about 2002-2003 with Maya, which used to be called Alias Studios.

The only CGI program that was available at the time of the video was Lightwave, but Lightwave is incredibly hard to use.

You're kidding aren't you?

1990 saw the first actual release of LightWave on the Commodore Amiga-based Video Toaster.

Lightwave Wikipedia Source

Not hard to use if you know how to use it.

I don't think Mr Reed's smart enough for CGI though.....the "model" was polystyrene or cardboard in my opinion and suspended with taught fishing line from trees. It's also looks just about the same size as the inside of a station-wagon...?

COULD have been CGI, but probably beyond his capability.

Cheers, nerb

[edit on 13/2/2009 by nerbot]

I guess I meant to say that it was not available to the general public like Maya and 3d's Max is. It's too expensive even now just for the software.
I don't know, It could or could not be real, but I always like to keep an open mind.

And nerb, I apologize that I was off on the years of the program releases (CGI is relatively new to me as a hobby)
Still learning
Peace

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Originally posted by visionandtruth
VISIONANDTRUTH:

Recently debunkers/skeptics and disinformation-merchants have tried to punch holes in my support for Jonathan Reed. And once again, with me being utterly bored by their useless attempts they have failed. Here's why.

Ahhhhh...sweet sweet dellusion. You have not come half as close to proving he is real as anyone has proven he is a fraud. You avoid the questions you do not like or cannot answer and you have been caught presenting false evidence. Nice that you think you are somehow vindicated.

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Thank you, Tiloke. You took the time to do what I have zero interest in doing.

I don't lie. Period. Sometimes I can be misinformed, as can any of us, but I do not lie. And I don't like being called a liar. So I appreciate you validating my words.

There is a reason visionandtruth (should really be called distortedvisionandlies) has negative points. He keeps proving post after post why he doesn't belong on a forum whos motto is "Deny ignorance."

Visionandtruth just keeps on digging the hole deeper and deeper for himself and his pathetic case.

Quite embarrassing really, but great to watch.

I just wish he would answer our questions instead of dodging and twisting them.
It`s almost like talking to a kid who got caught in a lie and keeps lying to try to get himself out of it.
Well, im a dad and im used to it hahaha

This is how low Rutter and people like Visionandtruth will stoop to try and promote their scam. They try to capitalize on the tragic deaths of two people they never knew, Dr Haggitt and chemist Michael Wessels.

Dr. Haggitt was victim of a homicide, but it had nothing to do with this case. The assailant in the case, a second year intern, was angry as he was about to be expelled from a program he was in. In a fit of rage, the intern entered Dr. Haggitt's office and shot him to death.

Research chemist Michael Wessels, an outdoor enthusiast, he left for a biking trip into the Cascade mountains sometime in August. He failed to show up for work and a search party later recovered his body. He died as the result of falling from a cliff he was scaling. There was nothing sinister in either case pointing to a conspiracy perpetrated by evil government agents to kill either of them.

Originally posted by impaired
I guess I meant to say that it was not available to the general public like Maya and 3d's Max is. It's too expensive even now just for the software.
I don't know, It could or could not be real, but I always like to keep an open mind.

The commodore, the commodore amiga, and the toaster/lightwave were available to the public UPON RELEASE, and quite affordable. Please do some research before stating facts so you will not have to be corrected so much. I had lightwave as a kid on my home system when I was 17 in the early '90s and I am pretty sure that I was both part of the public and not remotely wealthy.

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I will be turning 30 in one month. I had a Commodore 64 when I was 5 years old (1984), and I learned how to program in BASIC. Those were the good old days when computers were simple and could run on 64 kilobytes of RAM with a 2 MHz processor. No hard drives, only floppy disks that stored about 160Kb, and a cassette tape backup drive that used analog sounds to encode the data, a mini-plotter with ink pens, and then several years later I got my first dot-matrix printer. I actually cried for joy. Soon after I created my first newsletter with Print Shop. Today, I am a self-taught professional graphic artist with a whole lifetime of experience.
Computer geeks today have no idea how the fun all started.

[edit on 2/14/2009 by pjslug]

Agree with you there pjslug. ZX Spectrum for me back in 83. Then upgraded to an Amiga when it came out, great machine, still got it boxed up in the attic. Those were the days

Originally posted by visionandtruth
reply to post by darkclaw1256

 

Darkclaw1256 writes:
Those videos look interesting and particularly strange but in my opinion, I feel they were a hoax. I have never heard of any aliens who had brown skin. And the alien seems to look a bit peculiar. Looks a bit like a doll.

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VisionTruth:
Have there ever been any dolls anywhere in the world that change colors from a bluish gray to a dark brown? If so please post a link so we can all see this demonstrated elsewhere other then in the Reed case. Thanking you in advance for that link.

Ohh man thats rich. Here he is wanting someone to post a link to prove a remark they made. And yet you make stupid remark after remark and never give any evidence at all. the fact he thinks his winning some kind of argument actually makes me laugh.

As a side note so far the questions gone ignored by the Rutter supporter are as follows.

- Asked to provide evidence of the paperwork showing scientists doing DNA tests on the alien.

- The names of the TOP scientists he keeps mentioning but has no names for.

- Wont reply to questions as to why Rutter doesnt have video footage of the link artifact working but films everything else

- Mentioned rutter being invited to Star city and then when proved wrong ignored requests to show proof of him there and the names of the people who invited him.

Im sure there is more but thats all I remember for now. But no no vision you are definately winning this "debate"

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Kind of in the same way that the Amiga was actually the first multi-tasking computer as well as the first windows based gui but it never gets credit for either as apparently only apple and pc's exist in the world.

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Do you ever plan on answering any of the questions put to you about the legitimacy of this story or will you just continue to ignore the posts asking for actual answers?