Johnathan Reed's Close-Up Alien Blinking Video - best footage ever? (video)

Originally posted by johnjohn808

I just want concrete proof. Especially proof, which I dont have to purchase.

DING DING DING!!!!!!! If any of you found an alien, would you only offer up the proof in the form of a dvd people have to buy? If so, then we see where your integrity is.

Originally posted by visionandtruth
Link to Thexchronicle videos. Reed with Cosmonauts.
www.youtube.com...

Wow, so he and Lance Bass have the same level of access. All that proves is that Russians will meet with anyone. Where are these top scientists, or THE top scientists testimony as to Reed's authenticity?

While we are at it, What proof did they examine exactly? Why can you show us a video of the so called bracelet or whatever but still no video of it working? Why do you avoid that question each time it is asked?

Originally posted by Luciferdescending
Don't get me wrong, I would love nothing more than to believe in people like Billy Meiers and John Hutchinson and all but I refuse to start just believing stories first, then checking into them, then deciding how to defend them better. I want to believe, it is just that so far, I cannot.

Yeah I know what you mean.
I`ve been really into the subject since I was in the 3rd grade, believing any story anyone told me.

Now im 42 and hopefully a little wiser.
I still believe in life elsewhere, but to believe that some guy with a very checkered past, who is allergic to dogs, was walking in the woods with HIS DOG, and and the dog was disintergrated by an alien. ... I really need realistic verified proof.

I will always be the skeptic (not debunker) until REAL PROOF arives.

[edit on 12-2-2009 by johnjohn808]

Originally posted by visionandtruth
i also love how they avoid the fact Reed was invited to Star City Russia by TOP SCIENTIST STANDING AMONGST COSMONAUTS. shaking my head and laughing. good work guys. continue deliberately avoiding the fact that top scientist in the world take Reed seriously. your words however mean absolutely nothing.

Wrong, Reed was invited to Peru in August 2003 as well as Marina Popovich not Star City
Russia and definitely not by scientists. Here is the webpage.

peruufo.com...

Don't lie visionandtruth.

Originally posted by visionandtruth
theXChronicles videos.
Reed standing with Russian Cosmonauts.

take care.

Wrong, Reed standing in Peru in August 2003 as well as Marina Popovich and other
cosmonauts not in Star City Russia and not invited by scientists. Check the page.

peruufo.com...

Thanks free_spirit.
Ahhh i see... I guess Reed was invited to speak at one of those UFO conventions, and the photo oportunity was there.

You saved me the trouble of having to bother Marina Popovich and the cosmonauts to try to verify the invite.

Now im satisfied that Reed was not invited to Star City by "top scientists", but instead, was invited to Peru by a UFO convention promoter.
Thanks again for providing the webpage and info.

Originally posted by visionandtruth
Link to Thexchronicle videos. Reed with Cosmonauts.
www.youtube.com...

This link shows the August 2003 2nd. UFO Congress vendor's room with many people
around, not as Thexchronicle falsely claims with this title: FOOTNOTE: Dr. Jonathan Reed
had to have been ABSOLUTELY INVITED. There was no public access to any of this
summit.

Thexchronicle is lying as well as visionandtruth. Here is the webpage from that event
in Peru with photos of speakers where you can see Reed, Popovich, Padalka y Berezovoi
not Russia. Nice try visionandtruth.

peruufo.com...

Thanks again free_spirit, great job uncovering the event.
And here is the event info. It was definately open to the public.

peruufo.com...

it can be translated to english here:
babelfish.yahoo.com...



[edit on 12-2-2009 by johnjohn808]

Could be the most ignorant thing I've ever watched. So much hype in the topic and the video was pathetic. The breathing was ridiculous. So stupid..

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No, I would not. But neither did he initially. When the story first came out, there was no DVD for sale. The book came a short time later. I'm pretty sure the DVD only came out recently.

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Where do you get the fact that he's allergic to dogs? From the watchdog site which is pure disinfo? Come on.... you believe that but doubt most of the video evidence from Reed? Again, I'm not saying Reed is telling the truth, but the watchdog sites read like a novel (and both sites say almost the same exact things).

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Excellent find! Your previous post got a star from me! It seems either visionandtruth has some agenda, or he is just an extremely misinformed youth with a desire for the awesome to be real. If the latter, I cannot fault him for his devotion, but clearly he should not be presenting bulls*** as fact.

[edit on 2/13/2009 by pjslug]

You know I never made my mind up about the Reed case, but as a conspiracy person I have to ask, why does this case generate so much interest? Not only by believers, but I don't ever recall so many hard line debunkers going after a case so long and so hard and yet it keeps coming back.

Seriously, if there was less interest by the debunkers this thread would of probably drooped to the archives for all eternity by now. Nobody (including me) would even bother posting.

Seems to me once you ignore somebody long enough eventually they go away and look for another audience - even if the pushers post a few pages eventually they would grow tired of no responses and would soon lose interest and quit posting.

Instead you debunkers have made it a debate and yourselves have given the story life again, by pushing it back up to the top of the lists, and thus insuring it will be seen again by newbie readers & subscripted posters like me.

I find the UFO watchdog site just as if not more suspect bs than the story itself, and yet we continue to hear about it as if it was some factual site. After all it's a crappy cheesy site that probably took less effort to create than the supposed Mr (Dr) Reed spent on his so called "hoax project".

Using crap to debate crap just doesn't mean crap. Unless you consider the truth is hiding under all the crap. Maybe you're saying the same thing over and over in order to charge the search engines - I don't know.

Nobody has proven anything one way or the other, but I still contend that Reeds story is a great one whether fictional or not, but some of you debunkers are pushing so hard - that I'm starting to suspect that maybe you yourselves have an agenda.

[edit on 13-2-2009 by verylowfrequency]

Originally posted by pjslug
reply to post by johnjohn808

 

Where do you get the fact that he's allergic to dogs? From the watchdog site which is pure disinfo? Come on.... you believe that but doubt most of the video evidence from Reed? Again, I'm not saying Reed is telling the truth, but the watchdog sites read like a novel (and both sites say almost the same exact things).

Hi again pjslug,
Ok, I wont use UFO Watchdog.
The idea that he`s allergic to dogs came from investigators who interviewed his friends.

www.seattlechatclub.org...

As far as believing watchdog sites but not believing Reed`s videos?
Well, I look at evidence from both sides and make my decision based on what evidence weighs more.

When this story came out, I was all for it and was excited.
Then after awhile evidence came out against it that carried more weight in my eyes than the evidence for it.

Now can you please tell me the reasons why you believe Reed`s videos.

Because like I said in a previous post, I would like very much to believe his story, and if definitive proof comes along, I have no problem changing my mind.

But so far, the evidence against his claims still outweighs his evidence.

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I didn't say I fully believe it, but based on the six hours of video evidence containing video, photographic, and audio documentation that I've seen and heard, I'm way more inclined to believe that than the limited tidbits of novelesque-style debunking I've read. That's all. I admire your aspiration to find the truth, which is something many of us are longing for. Unfortunately, I don't believe all the posters on this thread are in search of the truth, rather they are trying to persuade us to disbelieve. That leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.

I will look at the link you posted, and I thank you for sharing that.

[edit on 2/13/2009 by pjslug]

My statement:
I also love how they avoid the fact Reed was invited to Star City Russia by TOP SCIENTIST STANDING AMONGST COSMONAUTS. shaking my head and laughing. good work guys. continue deliberately avoiding the fact that top scientist in the world take Reed seriously. your words however mean absolutely nothing.

Top scientist in the world take Reed Seriously is the main and only point to be made. [in all fairness, place a "." between the word Scientist and Standing...]
Now, I dont care if the guy was invited to your backyard. The point is the guy is standing amongst the greatest minds in the scientific community whether it be in PERU or whether it be in RUSSIA.. Nothing wrong with saying those words. Your bag of disinfo-tricks do not work on me. And again, I understand your need to have to interject and try and find any small detail to destroy that reality for the new people coming on board and being introduced to this case. Thats understood. But the more you play that game it only reveals how much more information there is unless its brought out concerning Reed and how much you would rather not speak of to reveal how seriously this guy is being taken by top scientist in the world. Also no lie involved in saying the above statement either.

I love how disinfo folks always try and make some small little insignificant detail and try and blow it up to something big like its going to take away from the fact Reed is definitely standing with Top Cosmonauts and Reed was definitely invited to a Russia Consortium. Now concerning that information its secondhand. Once its confirmed Im still going to be laughing.
Thanks for the Peru Links. You helped this case much further now I have more information about the Peru visit as well. Thank you thank you thank you!!!


Its kind of hard for debunkers to call a guy a fraud when the scientific community invites this guy to consortiums that are only allowed for the extremely and highly educated minds of the world. Former NASA engineers confirming they saw Reed here and there. I mean, I can only imagine inside the mind of a debunker after confirming Reed standing amongst cosmonauts and the sort. I cant imagine how stupid someone would feel trying to discredit a guy after reading that. I mean, its quite obvious this guys for real. I mean, how much more lying on the guy do you think its going to have an effect on someone after you yourself just confirmed he stands amongst cosmonauts?

Reeds the Real Deal, and thanks for confirming that with the Peru link which helps and assist the information we have on the Star City, Russia trip too. Great Job and keep up the good work.


[edit on 13-2-2009 by visionandtruth]

Originally posted by visionandtruth
My statement:
I also love how they avoid the fact Reed was invited to Star City Russia by TOP SCIENTIST STANDING AMONGST COSMONAUTS. shaking my head and laughing. good work guys. continue deliberately avoiding the fact that top scientist in the world take Reed seriously. your words however mean absolutely nothing.

Top scientist in the world take Reed Seriously is the main and only point to be made. I dont care if the guy was invited to your backyard. The point is the guy is standing amongst the greatest minds in the scientific community. Nothing wrong with saying those words. and again, I udnerstand you have to interject and try and find any small detail to destroy that reality for the new people coming on board and being introduced to this case. Thats understood. But the more you play that game it only reveals how much more information you have concerning Reed and how much you would rather not speak of to reveal how seriously this guy is being taken by top scientist in the world. Also no lie involved in saying the above statement either.

I love how disinfo people always try and make some small little insignificant detail and try and blow it up to something big like its going to take away from the fact Reed is definitely standing with Top Cosmonauts and Reed was definitely invited to a Russia Consortium.

Vision... you said Star City. Now you say and Russian Consortium. Which one is it?
You made a big deal about him being invited to Star City. Now you say you dont care if he was invited to my back yard. You call this insignificant?
There`s a big difference between Star City and my back yard.

Yes he was in the photo with cosmonauts, but if I was at the same very public UFO convention in Peru, I could have had my picture taken with them too.

You said that its a FACT. So provide us with the names of the identifiable TOP scientists that take Reed serious.
By simply providing the names, I can attempt to contact them to verify what you say to be fact.
That way, your TOP scientists claim will be validated.

As far as his story, all I ask for is concrete proof. Thats all I need and my mind will be changed.
The story is a sensational one, and i really honestly wanted and still want to believe it.
I`ve always believed in extraterestrial life, but just not in this case.

Dont try to sweep me under the carpet by calling me a disinfo agent or a debunker.
Debunkers go into a case with a pre concieved notion to prove it wrong.
I came into this long ago believing it and willing to give it a chance.
But the evidence for it did`nt hold up to the test of time.

Now until REAL PROOF is provided, i`ll still be on the skeptical side of the fence.



[edit on 13-2-2009 by johnjohn808]

has this story or evidence ever appeared on national news or even domestic?

I watched a youtube video about a guy saying he witnessed Dr Reed becoming invisible after putting on the amulet, wouldn't it make sense to invite professional media to such an event and document the events exposing it beyond anyones doubt?

Originally posted by visionandtruth
Top scientist in the world take Reed Seriously is the main and only point to be made.

What top scientists, visionandtruth? If these top scientists take him seriously, then we should be able to contact them and verify this information.

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Hi answers. Welcome to abovetopsecret.