An Experiment in Alternative Methods of Earthquake Prediction

Magnitude 4.1 - SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008 November 17 12:35:42 UTC

Magnitude 3.8 - SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008 November 17 17:41:36 UTC

I'm in Fallbrook, CA and felt both of these. I was awake for the first one and had fallen asleep and was woken up by the second one.
My cat had been acting very weird and would not stay inside for anything.
She usually comes in about 2 am and then sleeps until early afternoon. We couldn't get her to stay in.
2 days before the earthquake I had the worst headache ever on one side of my head.
And it has been very dry here but there seemed like there was an extra amount of static the past couple of days.

Mag 3.8 Vancouver Island Region, Canada 14 Nov 2008.

I am certain that this quake did not appear on the USGS in red or blue. I first noticed it last night, my time -- but in yellow of course. And it has not been posted by anyone on this thread.

Did anyone notice it on the maps before yesterday?







(If the image does not appear on this page in complete form, just right-click on it and then click on "view image".)

You're right, it was never on the map in red or blue. Good catch. As we know, this EQ was in the area everyone is watching now.

I've noticed the same thing about EQ's around the Mendocino and Blanco fracture zones as well. Same goes for that swarm near the north pole too. I've been keeping the USGS maps on my screen pretty much all day, checking them at least hourly, or more often while I'm working online, and EQs that are days old pop onto the maps in yellow frequently.

Notice anything odd about the arctic swarm?

MAP 4.7 2008/11/18 07:05:12 79.776 -114.689 10.0 ARCTIC OCEAN
MAP 4.8 2008/11/18 05:37:27 79.733 -114.958 10.0 ARCTIC OCEAN
MAP 5.3 2008/11/18 04:52:51 79.747 -115.310 10.0 ARCTIC OCEAN
MAP 5.1 2008/11/18 04:10:35 79.763 -115.704 10.0 ARCTIC OCEAN
MAP 5.6 2008/11/18 03:59:48 79.681 -115.326 10.0 ARCTIC OCEAN
MAP 4.7 2008/11/17 17:17:05 79.697 -115.448 10.0 ARCTIC OCEAN
MAP 5.1 2008/11/17 13:40:11 79.698 -115.453 10.0 ARCTIC OCEAN
MAP 4.7 2008/11/17 13:16:51 79.512 -115.585 10.0 ARCTIC OCEAN
MAP 5.7 2008/11/17 12:55:23 79.656 -116.072 10.0 ARCTIC OCEAN

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I just sent you an email on this....... Ive read a lot of stories about nukes going off up at the north pole, but i don't beleive that, especially since all these are at 10km deep, it would take years to make that many holes that deep.....
I dont think its natural, and i cant figure out why that particular area is being bombarded..

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Two things odd: one is the obvious, that they're all at a depth of 10km. The standard answer from USGS is that this is a "default depth" -- which interestingly enough, they use even when other sources (eg the quakes in Iceland on the Iceland website) show varying depths. Odd mindset, that.

The second is more bothersome, because it shows that while the latitude is near-stationary, the quakes are shifting progressively in longitude. In other words, these are seismic events along a line, in proceeding in one direction, not just popping up in and around a central region more-or-less at random. To put it another way, it's like watching a crack opening up in slow motion.

Magnitude 5.0 - BAJA CALIFORNIA, MEXICO
2008 November 20 19:23:01 UTC

Looks so much bigger on the USGS map.

Originally posted by JustMike
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Two things odd: one is the obvious, that they're all at a depth of 10km. The standard answer from USGS is that this is a "default depth" -- which interestingly enough, they use even when other sources (eg the quakes in Iceland on the Iceland website) show varying depths. Odd mindset, that.

The second is more bothersome, because it shows that while the latitude is near-stationary, the quakes are shifting progressively in longitude. In other words, these are seismic events along a line, in proceeding in one direction, not just popping up in and around a central region more-or-less at random. To put it another way, it's like watching a crack opening up in slow motion.

I agree with the above so much.. particularly:

"it's like watching a crack opening up in slow motion."

man, I have been saying that for a while now.. and no one listens... well, cept you guys (and gals)..

oh, as we speak, another big swarm is happening again.. just south of the "salton sea" (in mexico)... right smack dab in the center of an old volcano.

here are some of the quakes:

M 5.0, Baja California, Mexico

Date:
Thursday, November 20, 2008 19:23:01 UTC
Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:23:01 AM at epicenter
Depth:
15.00 km (9.32 mi)

M 3.3, Baja California, Mexico

Date:
Thursday, November 20, 2008 20:43:24 UTC
Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:43:24 PM at epicenter
Depth:
1.40 km (0.87 mi)

M 3.0, Baja California, Mexico

Date:
Thursday, November 20, 2008 05:05:13 UTC
Wednesday, November 19, 2008 09:05:13 PM at epicenter
Depth:
6.00 km (3.73 mi)

M 3.4, Baja California, Mexico

Date:
Thursday, November 20, 2008 08:44:00 UTC
Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:44:00 AM at epicenter
Depth:
6.00 km (3.73 mi)

Plus many more... it's ongoing as I type.

I know I have said it before but I love my google earth USGS plugin..

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pynner, quite interesting, isn't it... the arctic quakes? I had the same thought-- or some huge ice shelf is breaking off or something. I don't know what to think about the uniform depths.

Perhaps the Mexicali quake released pressure in Mexicali but increased pressure in this southern California area...

Magnitude 3.2 - SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008 November 20 21:17:22 UTC

By the way, I love your signature quote.

damntheptb and I were discussing the attack on Charlotte's computer and the subsequent loss of all her data, including her email alert subscription list-- the timing couldn't be worse for some in EQ prone areas, and with this ominous prediction out there right now for the PNW mega-quake.

I missed on the Santa Barbara channel. There seems to be a little swarm up by Lake Tahoe (some say an old volcano), which is about 30 minutes from me.

MAG UTC DATE-TIME
y/m/d h:m:s LAT
deg LON
deg DEPTH
km LOCATION
MAP 1.7 2008/11/21 21:26:32 39.364 -120.012 0.6 13 km ( 8 mi) NNE of Tahoe Vista, CA
MAP 1.2 2008/11/21 21:18:29 39.368 -119.986 0.0 14 km ( 9 mi) NNW of Incline Village-Crystal Bay, NV
MAP 1.4 2008/11/21 21:11:53 39.362 -120.006 2.4 13 km ( 8 mi) NNE of Tahoe Vista, CA
MAP 2.3 2008/11/21 21:06:10 39.352 -120.047 13.5 12 km ( 7 mi) N of Tahoe Vista, CA
MAP 2.6 2008/11/21 20:34:15 39.360 -120.003 4.7 13 km ( 8 mi) NNE of Tahoe Vista, CA
MAP 1.8 2008/11/21 15:51:25 39.365 -120.003 3.1 14 km ( 9 mi) NNE of Tahoe Vista, CA

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And another in western Nevada:

Magnitude 3.2 - NEVADA
2008 November 21 20:28:41 UTC

[edit on 11/21/08 by kattraxx]

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Hi Katt,

Just wondering, are you still picking up precursors for the Santa Barbara channel?

reply to post by mountaindog


No, it was just one night. I missed on that one. There were a couple onshore around S. Barbara, but not in the channel.

Right now, I feel pretty good. Fortunately, precursors are usually quick pains in certain areas of the body-- not a persistent ache or anything like that-- at least for me. Most of the time, it's a quick stab here or there, then gone. Sometimes, the ear aches can be felt for longer periods, if I focus on feeling it, and other times, there will be just a quick stab of pain in one ear.

Charlotte believes that the hot flashes (for lack of better words) people are feeling indicate that a large event is building somewhere in the world, and I tend to agree with her on that. My bf and I were both experiencing them on an increasing basis up until the last big one in Indonesia. And we get them at the exact same time. Now we're not feeling them. Damntheptb mentioned that he also experiences them, as well as many people, both male and female, Charlotte communicates with on regular basis.

It's worth mentioning that The Geysers in northern California are very active again today, and that generally means expect a +4 soon.

[edit on 11/21/08 by kattraxx]

Headache just hit me in the back left side of my head, strong, with ears ringing very shrill and loud. Visual disturbance. It is 625EST , I will check in a little while and see what has hit.

Same here, Space Cadet. Right now, I think we may be looking at Oregon, either on or offshore-- I'm not certain yet. And I've been getting Mexico since about midnight last night. Might be some Japan in there too, confusing the issue. We'll see.

Oh, and another by Wells, NV... the 6.0 in Wells was what kicked off the swarms in Nevada, both there, then here in Reno, so I don't like to see them shaking again.

Magnitude 3.6 - NEVADA
2008 November 22 16:19:08 UTC

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Magnitude 4.4 Mb - OFF COAST OF JALISCO, MEXICO
2008 November 23
Magnitude 4.8 - VERACRUZ, MEXICO
2008 November 23 18:06:41 UTC

Neither of the Mexico EQ's are aftershocks from the large event a few days ago.

Charlotte is back up and running, but using her old email alert subscriber list, so if you want to be on her EQ alert subscriber list, please email her again at: [email protected].

This morning, I woke with a headache and precursors I'm thinking mean seismic activity in the SF bay area, in or very near water. I feel central and southern California will be active as well. I just noticed that my puppy is under the dining room table, and I haven't seen that in a while.

Edit to add: latest Mexico EQ

[edit on 11/23/08 by kattraxx]

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Magnitude 4.7 - RYUKYU ISLANDS, JAPAN
2008 November 24 06:28:24 UTC

In the sea north of Japan... I always forget to include Russia, but they "go together", same precursors, Japan/Russia, if I forget in the future again.

Magnitude 7.3 - SEA OF OKHOTSK
2008 November 24 09:02:58 UTC

Also, more Mexico. What is notable about all of these EQ's, is they are offshore and along the "Ring of Fire", the Pacific plate.

Magnitude 4.5 - OFFSHORE MICHOACAN, MEXICO
2008 November 24 08:33:44 UTC

Magnitude 4.6 - OFF THE COAST OF CHIAPAS, MEXICO
2008 November 24 07:04:38 UTC

And one in Idaho, which has been deleted... one thing I have noticed watching the maps since March, is you never see an EQ in Idaho. And on the rare occasion you do, it is subsequently deleted. Like this one.

4.8 - SOUTHERN IDAHO
6 miles NW of Paris, ID

Another deleted EQ:

M 3.4, Southern California
November 24, 2008 09:12:23 GMT


[edit on 11/24/08 by kattraxx]

Got some more Mexico last night, but am more concerned about California today with the increased activity at the hot spring areas.

Also getting PNW precursors this morning and in fact, not feeling all that well. Damntheptb is good at picking up Washington state, so I'll email him for his opinion/precursors.

I've also received information (from Mountain Dog) of earthworms coming up out of the ground in Washington state, but I haven't been able to confirm the reason for this, ie., a lot of rain, etc. It has been known to occur before earthquakes.

[edit on 11/25/08 by kattraxx]

my ears have been plugged all day, and at first I thought it was from the "storm" system moving in, but I've had ringing and solid tones throughout the day, so I defnitly beleive washington state will see some shaking soon. within 36 hours....

Magnitude 3.1 - GREATER LOS ANGELES AREA, CALIFORNIA
2008 November 26 19:00:49 UTC

Magnitude 2.8 - WASHINGTON
2008 November 26 07:31:27 UTC

I still feel the way I did yesterday, so I can only assume something is building. If I hadn't talked to others who are feeling the same way, I'd think I was coming down with something.

I have to mention that my wife and I have noticed alot of "earthquake" clouds over us, here in vancouver bc.

I can think of at least 3 of the past days of seeing them... and one of them was so freaky that we actually pulled over (we were driving at the time) to look at them.
when you do a google image search for earthquake clouds, and you see those first few pics... that's what we have seen.

when I go out today, I will take a cam and see if I can snap some.... I know they were out there when I woke up.

another weird thing I noticed about a week ago (and someone had a video of it posted here on ats) was the clouds rolling like the ocean... like big swells in the sky just rolling along..

weird things these days.

can't believe this isn't posted yet!

M 5.4, off the coast of Northern California

Date:
Friday, November 28, 2008 13:42:19 UTC
Friday, November 28, 2008 05:42:19 AM at epicenter
Depth:
10.00 km (6.21 mi)