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An Experiment in Alternative Methods of Earthquake Prediction

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posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 09:12 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

reply to post by MamaJ
 

No problem.
Thank you for taking the time to read all that!
(But you know me by now. I almost never use 10 words when 100 will do!
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Meanwhile we'll keep an eye on things and if anything big happens just make excuses at work and get yourself back here where the quake news arrives first!


Just like to observe that there's definitely been a distinct downtown in the number of quakes/hr in the region of the Brawley swarm, the largest only a single mag 3.0 about 7 hours ago. All others are down in the mag 1 and 2 range. So we can hope nothing much more will eventuate.

But by all means, folks, keep posting your observations and thoughts! It's good to have them on record here.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 09:25 AM
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I had a bad dream. I briefly mentioned it on TA's California going off! page. And was advised to share it here...so here goes.
Yesterday night, I was home around 1 AM, after late dinner with office mates. Was tired and very sleepy. So, before long I crashed and don't remember how long I was awake before I dosed off. I have had bad dreams which have come true before, like my own accident in which I broke my left ankle on 5th May 2011 and the much earlier Earthquake of Bhuj on 26th January 2001.
What stick's out and makes these dreams a strong emotional affair, are the vivid images and the way I recall the beginning of the dream. All these dreams have one thing in common...I feel like a bright light zooms into my eyes and retracts away, then again zooms back in and retracts, this happens for about 15-20 seconds...this has always been the beginning of such bad dreams. I don't even remember the normal dreams, ever. But these dreams linger on in memory for some reason.

As the light vanished, I saw two sets of Storms devastating parts of two separate countries. I saw a big earthquake lasting for over 9-10 seconds, but causing much damage. This quake was on land, and not the sea. I am not sure if the land was USA, but surly it wasn't Asian or African Land. It was a well developed land, with huge skyscrapers. However, one of the Storm did in fact impact an Asian coastal town, completely devastating it.

The quake struck in the late afternoon or evening, the storms lashed since late in the morning. I remember it as Tuesday 28th August...Such devastation seldom comes, but when it does, people unite and an air of solidarity encompasses the masses, that was another thing I saw. People joined hands to help those brutally affected.

It seems to be just another bad dream, and I wish it is just that. Although I am not in either of the places where this happens, I still get shivers thinking about the dream. I am sorry, because I cannot describe every detail, because I do not remember each detail...It was like a rapidly flowing imagery and I was just observing from a distance.

I have never seen the future, and do not want to say that I do, except for the Bhuj quake and the broken ankle! And I have a bad gut feeling about this one. Its a matter of a day and half, but every minute I feel scared.
edit on 27-8-2012 by UnknownEntity because: Had to add the words 'parts of' so as not to make it sound like 'both countries were devastated, but only parts.



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 11:37 AM
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Good morning, afternoon, evening to all of you wherever you all may be!


I have been keeping this in a tab and checking it every now and then just to keep an eye out on the area there. Live Quake Cam

In response to what Mama J said earlier about me feeling the quakes, I usually can feel when large scale or nearby stuff goes on..its fascinating, unsettling and downright annoying at times! The seismic waves and their propagation and the oddities that go with that is very likely related..especially when the quake is on the other side of the world like Japan or that 7.7 in Russia on the 11th or so...

The quakes on the western coast of the US, it seems that I don't sense those as easily..Rockies getting in the way maybe? Lava? It bugs me with only the inconsistency, though since in this case others close by did not feel it, it does make me wonder with everyone else what the heck is up though.



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 12:17 PM
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reply to post by UnknownEntity
 

The easy answer would be to say something like, "UnknownEntity, it was nothing, so don't worry and don't let it get to you."

The trouble is that I know from my own experience that sometimes these things impact us so profoundly that anyone with an ounce of empathy and compassion is going to be affected. I feel that's what has happened in your case and I know where you're coming from. Even dreams are not "nothing". They affect us and so they are something, ethereal as they may seem to be.

If I can offer a little advice, just allow this experience to find its place in a corner of your mind. Don't fight against it, as that will only mentally exhaust you more. Instead, if possible, busy yourself with other things as best you can. And remind yourself of the fact that if it is about reality then neither you, nor I, nor anyone can really do anything to change it. So, that being the case, it's not worth worrying over too much, really. If you could do something to change the outcome, then at least you could act, but in a case like this we just have to let it be.

That's not the same as "don't worry about it as it's nothing". That's allowing it to take a place and recognize it for what it is -- a potential glimpse of the future, not a guaranteed one.

Perhaps it was only a dream, perhaps it was more, but until time takes us to that moment in what we commonly call the "future", we will not know.

I have examples back through this thread where I have posted predictions that were based on what were fundamentally esoteric indications. They weren't simply the result of scientific analysis of data, though that was needed too. Very often, my most accurate predictions came from the esoteric first, with the scientific following as confirmation. In spite of the naysayers who abound and say such things are impossible, the evidence is here in this thread and inarguable.

How do I deal with this? I just let it be part of my life and don't let it get to me. Sometimes that's hard, but I learned a lot from a very wise old man -- my grandfather -- who in his nearly 96 years on this earth came to understand a great deal about what it means to change what we can change -- and accept what we cannot.


And believe me, you are not alone. Look back through the pages here and see how many others have experienced similar things to your own. My own feeling is that what we sometimes perceive is like a small loophole in time, if we can put it that way. And time is a true conundrum. No-one fully understands it. So why can it not be so that we see "parts" of time that are not yet "here"? Perhaps one day a scientific basis to this mystery will be found. I believe that's possible. Meanwhile, we make our notes and share and deal with it all as best we can, each in her or his own way.


Please feel free to contact me via u2u anytime if you want to discuss these matters further. I don't have my grandfather's wisdom but if I can help then I'll try.

Best regards,

Mike

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

edit on 27/8/12 by JustMike because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 12:22 PM
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Feelings were gone when I got up this morning, but they are back again. Had a great morning of no pressure, headaches, or ear ringing. But I almost choked on my coffee when I saw the el Salvador quake. Just had an ear ring thingy, and the pressure, and headache are coming back.

Peace and love



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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Whenever earthquake activity amps up, my inner earpressure does that pressury-change (like in elevation change) and sure enough, I'd been getting that this last 3 or so days. Is that just a coincidence, or do others have that with earth activity?



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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The inconsistencies you talk about are apparently common and just another of the mysteries about the whole process.

I guess a key point is that quakes are all about energy -- enormous amounts of it -- being moved and transformed from place to place. Those "P" waves from a quake (that are the first to register on seismographs) travel through the earth at incredible speeds, like 4 miles per second if the quake is near the surface to more than double that at greater depths.

Four miles per second... More than 14,000 miles per hour...or even faster!


Such energy!

And that's just at the time the quake happens. What about before one lets go? We still don't know all the answers, but we do know that for some quakes, there can be changes in the atmosphere over a quake region, including atmospheric heating, along with changes in the strength of local magnetic fields.

Are we to believe that none of these changes have any effect on us? It makes more sense to me that some people, who just happen to be more sensitive to such things, may detect these changes and perhaps even through a primordial "instinct" (now, what is instinct, anyway?), sense that something is about to occur.

Or, as I've suggested some pages back in this thread, perhaps the energies released when a quake occurs, can actually cause some kind of distortion in the "space-time continuum" and allow us to get a glimpse of the future event.

It's a wild theory but not impossible. Meanwhile, it's well worth discussing any aspect, and this thread is a great place to do that.

Best regards,

Mike

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edit on 27/8/12 by JustMike because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 12:29 PM
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Some sense these "pressure changes", even where the physical monitors of air pressure (ie barometers) don't indicate them occurring. This makes me wonder if the ear does more than just sense physical pressure changes and also acts as our central balance mechansim.

Mike

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posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 12:30 PM
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Well put Mike.

Peace



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 12:38 PM
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Hi LTL,

just saw your other post as well. Thanks for your comments.


It sounds like you might have experienced what Charlotte King called the "Uh-oh moment". By this she meant the time when your symptoms (of whatever form) suddenly lift and you feel fine -- and then it's "Uh-oh", because it can mean that the event is going to occur very shortly.

I've only experienced this a few times myself. The last major one was before the Great Asian Quake and Tsunami of Dec, 2004. Two whole days of utter misery and feeling rotten, then suddenly, it lifted. And then -- the big one happened.

Hard to say what the cause and effect might be here. We've surmised on it before. But fundamentally, I guess it's some kind of energy re-balance or adjustment going on. If we bear in mind that this is all about energy (and time is also a component of energy and vice versa) then that might bear the key.

Mike

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posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 10:34 PM
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I swear I just had a huge 1 minute long pressure build up in my ears. Then all of a sudden it was gone?


Just noting it here. Could be allergies, who knows.



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 11:29 PM
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Well this is probably nothing but I figured I would post here just in case. How is everyone's animals/pets doing today? My dog has been on the fritz all day and I can't figure out why. He runs away from any sort of noise (not like his normal personality) and he has been hiding in the room or under the table. He's a yellow lab not some little dog.. I'm in Alaska we will see if something happens here in the next day or so.



posted on Aug, 28 2012 @ 01:20 AM
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In So.Cal, my kitty's been her normal self... didn't act up at all over the quakes yesterday. We were too far away from them to experience any shaking though. I used to think she was sensing things at times but I've come to realize she's just a weirdo, I don't think she's going to make a very good quake detector. =p



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 06:04 AM
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Dear Just Mike,
Many thanks for your words of comfort. I am also glad that the gut feeling I had did not come true. Especially the Earthquake part.
I have read and re-read your comment, and I will adopt your advice for any similar future event.

Warm regards.



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 11:56 AM
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Again, thanks Mike. The feelings are still there, but turned down a bit as compared to this past weekend Personally, if an 8 does not happen by this weekend, than I think we wont see anything for a little while. But I o still think an 8 will happen in the next 72 hours.

Peace



posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 08:53 AM
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Prayers go out to the Philippines, and any affected by this quake.

Peace



posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 12:56 PM
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Popping in haven't been around much lately. Been having a headache for about 3 days I put it off to Issac. Last night all the animals were trying to be in my lap including the Rottie and the cats. I kept waking up during the night startled even though the Issac rain brought no thunder or lightening here we were just getting a gentle rain. Woke at 530 just stayed up from then on ears popping, nausea, headache and just ill at ease. Now was it Issac or the Phillipine quake, who knows ...all I know is when I decide I don't wanna feel this anymore I don't want to know something big makes me fly up out of the bed. LOL.



posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 01:45 PM
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So same thing again. I thought I would be done this week after gettingthese two. Felt so much better this morning, and now everything is back again. Just woke up from a power nap that was filled with horrible dreams, people crying, pain everywhere. The energy is too strong to not say something, so here...another very strong 7 or 8 will happen in the next 72 hours.

Last year I was pretty accurate, earlier this year I was wrong. I hate these feelings, cause they make no f ing difference at all. So please, please be wrong.. Two for two this week, Please be wrong.

Peace and love
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posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 06:56 PM
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Hi, Lois!

Do I remember right, are you in Arkansas? NWA
There was a little one there last night.

folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu...

Maybe your animals felt that one.

My young cat was trilling & wanting attention though last night too.
Usually she's spot on for the bigger ones around the time they happen.
I should try to pay more attention, but I've been pretty busy lately!
I have to figure out the difference between the trilling & when she hides under the desk!
And if magnitude or distance makes any difference.
WOQ



posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 07:15 PM
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Good call! Hope you're wrong this time, but I don't think so.
My ears have been buzzing for hours. But is it the aftershocks?

I was out of town today, a little out of state actually & didn't feel anything that I know of.
But sometimes I get lots of energy before a big one!

Completely opposite of poor hubby, who had a miserable day at work!
He doesn't even know if he finished eating his breakfast or not, & when he went to get a drink & came back to the table, he saw one already sitting there! He can't remember even going to get the first one. Pretty scary the way it hits him!

He said he feels worse before & after, not as much at the time it happens.
But he's still feeling pretty miserable. But then again, it could be because of the number of ongoing 5's I guess.
Yes...yes...that's it....lots of high 4's & low 5's....yes, that must be it....no more are coming......!!!

Dang it, now my ears are popping???!!!
WOQ



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