Your Sigil Results, this stuff works!

Hello all...

I've read as much of this thread as I can, and I didn't realise there was so much of it...! Lots and lots of good stuff here...thank you everyone!

Anyway, apoligise if I'm repeating a previous post here, but I have a couple of points I would like to raise, if I may.

Firstly, there have been a few mentions of people not being comfortable with the idea of asking for something material for oneself, as if somehow we're taking away from someone else. Here's my take on it....would the Universe, or God, or whatever you choose to call the Divine put us here on earth and then expect us to do without? If our "having" places no harm on others, they why can't we have what ever we want? I know...a tricky issue when so many of the earth's inhabitants don't even have the basics, but that, to me, is a matter of individual conscience. I know that if I earn enough, and can give more to charity, to the people who can really make use of the energy I earn in terms of cash to fund projects, then I'm doing a little, and if we all did it, it would solve so many problems.

Secondly, a matter of specific language..."I wish I had a dog", for example. In terms of energy, using words like "wishing" pushes the possibility even further into the future, and the realms of "not truly possible", or so your mind thinks. Might it be more creative to say "I have a dog" and reduce that to a sigil, bringing the possibility immediately into the present, and perhaps more likely to manifest quickly?

Just my little bit....

Blessings

Caitlin

Cool thread. I dunno if this has been asked but if you created a sigil where the purpose was to have someone love you would that be bad?

Hey, all. I have read most of this thread and have set some sigils to work.

The interesting thing is that my last sigil wound up containing all 26 letters! Not on purpose, mind you, but having completed it I could trace them all within it.

And I feel I cannot do better in future sigils. It is small, beautiful, and symmetrical. So I have to ask... Might this sigil be used to focus any statement of will into?

Or do I have to find other, less concise-pretty-balanced means to illustrate the foundations of future focuses?

Thanks.

To dave420...

My view is that if I ask, via sigil, for something and I get that something, WHO CARES whether it was the sigil or just going to happen anyway given the path I was on?

The fact that in the past I have gotten what I asked for in ritual, ceremony and mental focus, and now expect to get what I created sigils for, is what I use in my life. What is it to you if my life runs smoothly in that paradigm?

I have a HARD CORE result to report.

2 weeks back my son had his ipod stolen dumb mean kids anyway

I felt very bad for him but wasn't about to get him a new one, as he NEEDED to learn the lesson of keeping precious things close.....also I don't plan to spend any of MY precious savings on an ipod when I need it so bad for gas in my car......
SOOOO I did a sigil that he would get the same looking and type ipod, if not the same lost one returned.

Today his Dad's new wife came over bringing him a replacement ipod thats a dead ringer for his stolen one.

Neither of us saw this coming at all, so I say the sigil worked.

I have done a couple more that I am waiting for results on. I just wanted to chime in and report that this ipod one manifested clearly and quickly.

Originally posted by Amaterasu
And I feel I cannot do better in future sigils. It is small, beautiful, and symmetrical. So I have to ask... Might this sigil be used to focus any statement of will into?

I'd say that part of the whole mechanism is that each sigil is specific and unique to that statement of will. When you create it, you are imbuing it with the emotions and desires for that one particular thing. I think the sigil would be 'clouded' and lacking in focus if you used the same one for different desires. Besides, it doesn't matter how they look so just make another.

RESULT:
My girlfriend has been struggling for work as a freelance prosthetics/make-up artist. She did a sigil to get more work and almost immediately she had 3 consecutive weekends of good work and has a couple of big jobs coming up where she has been granted more responsiblity and control than in any previous job.

Hey thought i'd update again to my last post. On my last post I said how I asked to win money at my darts tournament and I did even though I had the toughest draw of anyone and was the only person to beat people seeded higher than me. Granted this could have been a conincidence which I stated. But.

The other thing I asked for was that I will pass my degree at university and low and behold it happened. Now you are all probs thinking whats the big deal. The big deal is that A) more than one of my tutors thought I wasn't going to make it this year. B) I couldn't see any possible way I could make it and C) I did a nights worth of revision for each exam.

Yet I passed the lot. Even the 3 hour exam I left an hour and a half early, only answered 2 of the 3 questions and only wrote 5 pages total.

The people here that have been to universtity will know that you just can't do this sort of thing in your final year. espically when you have missed about 55% of the lectures and seminars.

I reckon this stuff works if done properly

Havent got anything useful to add besides that

THIS WORKS BIGTIME

I thank you so much for bringing this up here, this could be the start of something BIG..

- Chris

Originally posted by Cythraul

Originally posted by Amaterasu
And I feel I cannot do better in future sigils. It is small, beautiful, and symmetrical. So I have to ask... Might this sigil be used to focus any statement of will into?

I'd say that part of the whole mechanism is that each sigil is specific and unique to that statement of will. When you create it, you are imbuing it with the emotions and desires for that one particular thing. I think the sigil would be 'clouded' and lacking in focus if you used the same one for different desires. Besides, it doesn't matter how they look so just make another.

I had much the same feeling myself, but then thought that if I focus on each specific intent while drawing my "special" sigil, that the sigil could be used to manifest my will, regardless of its similarity or identicality to previous works...

As to the verbiage used, some have asked about whether "I desire" is better than "I want" and so on. I use, "It is my will that..."

Seems to be the best so far.

And as to sigils working, on of mine is manifesting but is a process. When it is done, I will report back.

At about the time that the Templar Knights were seeking the magickal Ark of the Covenant, complex, intricate Gothic architecture sprang up in Europe - seemingly overnight.

Indeed it did. We even know the date: 1136.
But that was because the driving force behind the development of the so-called "Gothic" architecture was a single man: abbot Suger.

(Anyone interested in the topic should absolutely read Panofsky's book "Abbot Suger on Gothic Architecture", Princeton, 1979.)

Personally, I think there is little doubt that the main architectural components of the new style were influenced by Islamic architecture in the Middle East.


But this:

I believe this is the basis of Sigil magick - the relationship between form and the formless.

is brilliant.
Incomplete, but brilliant.





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hey can someone help me out here?

i wanted to try out sigil magic, so i read up on in from the grant morrison website, mentioned on the first page. i tried the video first, but it kept getting stuck at 11 minutes. so anyway, the website says that after you make a sigil for your wish, you need to forget the wish in the verbal form. what does that mean? am i supposed to forget what the sigil is for after i make it, and just charge it up and launch it without remembering what it is actually supposed to do? and just how am i gonna forget something like that so easily?

...or does he mean something else?

reply to post by darklord


You are not supposed to DWELL on it - on what you did (the sigil).
Every time you remember the words used, you're preventing it from materialising.

Forget everything - except the knowledge your intent is being/has been materialised.
Or, if it's easier, the perfect, confident but vague (i.e. non-specific) knowledge that you have done something that is causing/has caused your heart's desire to materialise. (In other words: you know you did somethingt o effect the change desired, and now it's DONE.)

And... nobody said it's going to be easy.

Although it can be.










[edit on 11-6-2008 by Vanitas]

thank you so much vanitas... i get it now.

Originally posted by darklord
hey can someone help me out here?

i wanted to try out sigil magic, so i read up on in from the grant morrison website, mentioned on the first page. i tried the video first, but it kept getting stuck at 11 minutes. so anyway, the website says that after you make a sigil for your wish, you need to forget the wish in the verbal form. what does that mean? am i supposed to forget what the sigil is for after i make it, and just charge it up and launch it without remembering what it is actually supposed to do? and just how am i gonna forget something like that so easily?

...or does he mean something else?

When one is instructed to "forget," it does not mean one has to purge the experience from memory. What it means is to deliberately distract oneself from any thoughts that arise.

For example, if you asked for a free apple, did the sigil work and focused on the gaining of an apple, when you are done, go watch TV, or play a game with your kid, or go shopping for clothes... Should the thought of that free apple enter into your awareness, immediately think of a hippopotamus or what your plans are with your family or whatever.

Spend as little time with it "on your mind" as possible. Let it go.

I hope this helps.

reply to post by darklord



P.S.

Here is something that you might - or not - find easier.

Hypersigil

It's certainly useful.
(And it's been around since time immemorial. )






[edit on 11-6-2008 by Vanitas]

thanks for the explanation guys. i'm gonna try it out now. and vanitas, i always wondered what grant meant by hypersigils, and how a comic book can be a form of sigilism. that link answered everything, and more. thanks a lot. clearly, there's a lot i dont know about this subject. but i'm gonna see if and how much it works for me...

reply to post by Amaterasu

I think ultimately, it's about how your mind relates the sigil. So the specific sigil matters less than your (strength and intent of) thought process at the time of using it. I'm only a beginner myself but you might have success using the same sigil multiple times. Personally, I wouldn't but that's because I'm the kind of person who likes to leave little doubt.

As for how one words their intent - I like to use the form "I am..." or "I have...". It seems to be the most commanding, potent way to put it. e.g. "my health is restored" or "I have the money I need".

reply to post by theRiverGoddess


Well, your findings would mean something if you managed to split your universe before you created the sigil and we could compare the two universes to see if it had any effect. As it is, your story is just that - a story. Anecdotal evidence that by itself can not even shed light on whether sigil works or not.

We need to conduct an actual study on Sigil if we want to get to the bottom of it. Until we do that, anyone practicing it is just paying lip service.

Deny Ignorance, after all.

Originally posted by dave420
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Deny Ignorance, after all.

I am sorry, but in this case, it seems to me that your Denial IS Ignorance.

Isn't the whole purpose of these threads to give you an ALTERNATIVE perspective to what you believe? To make you think and question your initial thoughts. IMHO.

Originally posted by dave420
Anecdotal evidence that by itself can not even shed light on whether sigil works or not.
We need to conduct an actual study on Sigil if we want to get to the bottom of it. Until we do that, anyone practicing it is just paying lip service.
Deny Ignorance, after all.

No wonder you're depressed. Have you tried it?

Originally posted by Cythraul
reply to post by Amaterasu

 

I think ultimately, it's about how your mind relates the sigil. So the specific sigil matters less than your (strength and intent of) thought process at the time of using it. I'm only a beginner myself but you might have success using the same sigil multiple times. Personally, I wouldn't but that's because I'm the kind of person who likes to leave little doubt.

That's where I was coming from in my own thoughts. I have the encompassing sigil, and I have years of practicing mental/emotional focus... Energy direction, if you will... So maybe that is the one sigil I need, drawing it with focus on any given goal.

Well, I might set a few going and see what crops up.

Thanks for responding. [smile]