Your Sigil Results, this stuff works!

reply to post by pai mei


Excellent post pai mei!, i think you should start a your own thread with this in the prophecy or conspiracy section.

reply to post by survivor



There's already an ongoing thread about the 2012 London Symbols.


www.abovetopsecret.com...'

Hey I have a suggestion for ALL of us.....

Lets all do a sigil with the same result in mind.
Lets make the world a better place..........why not?

I say we should do a sigil to bring oil and gas prices back down.

I say we should do a sigil to bring free energy to mankind.....

Lets do a sigil to calm down and quiet the Yellowstone caldera why not?

sigil that Ron Paul wins the Presidential election..........

That Scottish guy said we COULD change the world if we would just decide to DO it...so lets....ok?

[edit on 18-5-2008 by theRiverGoddess]

reply to post by theRiverGoddess



I wonder how many people you would need to make gas prices come down or to bring world peace.


It's a great idea, I would be glad to do it, but I can't fully guarantee my sigil will work or be properly done (this sigil stuff is very new to me).

For everyone who has had the idea of using their sigils to "change the world":

I don't think this is the smartest idea. Like a previous poster said, a very large asteroid on a collision course with earth would most definitely end people's suffering. If indeed sigils can work for everyone and can change the world, then everyone can change their own lives. I think the smartest thing to do is to worry about ourselves and the things that we can comprehend the consequences of, at least for everyone who's a beginner.

It's like on a plane - first put your oxygen mask on, then offer to help others who may need it.

reply to post by sc2099


I think that is very good advice. The way I see it, and sorry in advance for the terrible example, is a little like the X-Files episode "Je Souhaite" where a seemingly good wish for peace on earth results in the disappearance of every one on earth!

I think it is best to experiment with sigils first and then only later attempt more complicated things when you have gained a little experience in how these things work.

reply to post by sc2099


It is not the smartest idea if it is implemented by not-so-smart people...
It is perfectly possible to "charge" any intention with specifics instead of just letting the outcome unravel any way it may.

But I don't think it's a good idea, anyway.






[edit on 19-5-2008 by Vanitas]

I am extremely pleased that so many people have tried sigils and that there have been so many positive results! Keep trying and you'll get better. If they aren't working then try another technique and think about how there might be any symbolic conflicts in your own mind. Try and ask for something simple and verifiable.

Has anyone seen this thread and found a rather spooky parallel with sigils?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

If this is indeed similar to sigils then the implications are rather profound! In the film "What the bleep do we (you?) know" there is an account of a Japanese scientist (M. Emoto) who put labels on bottles of water and found that the crystalline structure of the water changed as a result. Sounds pretty similar again. Being beings of mainly water it could be interesting to a label or sigil on ourselves. Not saying trying it, just asking for any ideas.

Link to M. Emoto's site:

www.masaru-emoto.net...

Although the subject is rather controversial, as is aways the case with this kind of thing, there are parallels elsewhere if anyone is interested. Notably with holy water and DNA.

reply to post by Vanitas


So how do you influence reality then Vanitas? LOA? How exactly do you do it?

reply to post by Kupios



Ah... you don't give up, do you?

Above, in this same thread, I spoke about a special feeling described as "this is how it's going to be - and that's that".
It may sound as an annoyingly generalised description - but in fact it's quite the opposite. That is that.

I may come back and add more. But at this point I would just like to state why is it that I avoid descriptions (in personalised terms) of such things: because by verbalising something you inevitably rationalise it. And that, in my experience, can be the death of any "subtle" functions.

On that mega site on sigils, the URL of which was given in one of the posts above (perhaps by yourself, I don't remember), there is an article that summarises it very well: "It (= the method) works because it's yours. You didn't get it from books."

Couldn't have said it better myself.







[edit on 19-5-2008 by Vanitas]

reply to post by Vanitas


Thank you! Your post, again, elevates the discussion!
I know exactly what you mean about you mean rationalization killing the subtlety. In a similar vein, maybe you could point out your path of research so others can find their own subtleties and techniques.

I like the way you are able to remain enigmatic yet elucidate things so!

The personalization of methods in sigils is definitely most important.

Do come back and add more!

If one were to create a perpetual sigil that can be worn in some way (say a pendant, item of clothing or even tattoo), would that sigil be continually charged by your day to day emotions and energies? It seems to me that a sigil carried with you at all times could gather enormous amounts of charge without the need for ritual and therefore become extremely powerful.

reply to post by Cythraul


In theory, yes, absolutely.
But you do realise that your emotions are not going to be positive all the time...?

More importantly... I am not sure that any human is ready to cope with "enormous" energy - not as yet. There could be some serious physical damage, unless you develop a really powerful way of protecting yourself - especially your spleen..

Anyway, you may want to look into amber (the natural resin).
The Russians (and others) don't call it electron for nothing.

reply to post by Cythraul

Or how about this, you fashion some sort of sigil, perhaps a pendant, T shirt, or ball cap, give it to someone as a gift without telling them what it is (a perfiect gift for that special skeptic friend we all have) and ask them to wear it constantly.

Now, if you have a close relationship with this person and start to notice good things happening to them, you then fill them in on your little secret. However, if they start to have bad luck, then don't tell them a thing but suggest they re-gift the item to someone they don't like.

My suggestion... we all do a sigil that makes Cheney and Bush die in a plane accident, Kennedy style. Then we can all walk right up to the white house and say "YES! WE DID IT USING MAGIC!" seriously... we all know the reaction they would have!

Funny thing is that I've found if I tell someone the truth, they think I'm lying to them... if I lie, they think I'm telling the truth... it's like a curse, but I figure I can use it to my advantage some day, lol.

First off, BIG KUDOS for the thread. I have been reading it for almost a week now and have found I look forward to reading the updates on a daily basis. It also should be noted this one of the most positive threads I have read to date.




Second, I am happy to report 4 days ago, I made my first sigil and although it has not come to full fruition yet, I have had a few indications to suggest it is progressing in the right direction. I remain optimistic. I will explain more after some more time has passed.

Originally posted by Earthscum

Funny thing is that I've found if I tell someone the truth, they think I'm lying to them... if I lie, they think I'm telling the truth... it's like a curse, but I figure I can use it to my advantage some day, lol.

That happens to me a lot too.

I wonder why?...

@ Vanitas:
I suspected that might be the case. However, I read a guide to sigil making which said to use energy to charge the sigil, and then went on to suggest - meditation, masturbation, love, fear, anger - both positive emotions and negative ones. It seems some believe that positive energies are essential and others feel that any energies will facilitate the ritual.

I would have thought that if your sigil represents "I will be this", then all energies will contribute towards that goal, and the only way to make the opposite happen is to create a sigil with the opposite intention. From what I've gathered, charging the sigil is just a way to help it cross into the subconscious/otherworld.

You're probably right though.

@ TheRooster:
Probably best to avoid harming my loved ones. If I wouldn't wear it, I certainly wouldn't let someone I care about wear it. I'd prefer for myself to be the guinea pig... and actually, I'd probably be willing to try it out and see what good or bad comes of it. I do tend to carry a lot of negative emotions so I can't claim to be a wholly "positive" person.

First of all this is a great thread! Thanks OP! That Grant Morrison video was awesome!

Originally posted by cosmicstorm
cos ill go and buy a lotto ticket tomorrow and if nothing happens ill be a £ out of pocket and a bit disheartened and i dont want to be disheartened because i do believe in this stuff!! am i making sense? lol..... i dont want to keep putting myself in a situation where i 'might' win some money, should i now just sit back and hope my sigil works?

I think you should buy the ticket, but do it with the right frame of mind. Like the Sigil, see it as a message that sends your desires out into the universe. The more signals you send, the more pathways you open.

When you buy the ticket do it with the frame of mind that "buying the ticket" is an end unto itself. Expect the universe to answer your request, but don't limit how the universe has to answer.

reply to post by Cheyracingchick


Very pleased you enjoy the thread! I must say I do find wonderfully positive too!

In the interest of finding out which sigil techniques work best it is wiser to wait for a while for more results as you suggest. On the other hand, I have found that sometimes a sigil will do what it was designed for but either in a slightly lopsided way or in a small way. For example, I ask to win some money and I win £2, which is ok in itself but I feel I should do another sigil afterwards.

In any case, good luck with the sigils, keep an eye on different possible interpretations of the formulation you choose and please do keep us all posted!