God is Punishing China

Could it simply be the normal cycles and changes our planet goes through. Blame it on Mother Nature. Gods a little too busy in the Middle East punishing Iraq.

When you say God.. What God are you talking about???

Why is it that people see God as some bearded fatherly figure that doles out punishment to everyone?

Time and time agin I hear.. If you dont belive what I tell you to belive your going to be punished, and then sent to a burning pit of fire, to hurt forever!!!!! But he loves you!

This thread is laughable.. I dont know what "God" you think you are talking about.. But as a man you have no idea what God even is.

You do not know the hand of God, Nor do you know the will of God.

All you know is what you where told to belive.
And Im starting to think the God you mean, is the punisher God.
The evil and spiteful God..

My God doesnt hurt anyone.. Nor does my God inflict pain upon others.
Men do that to Men.. Bottom line..
Humans are to blame..
And lets throw in mother Earth.. And claim the workings of the earth is God. You paint a very broad stroke with your claim here.

And its rather upsetting for me to think that theres people out here who really belive God would punish people?

No we punish ourselfs..
So stop pushing off all our issues on "God".
God is like the ultra mega scapegoat of this world..
And its a sad sad thing..

Like another member said.. If God is the type of God that throws down pain and death.. Well maybe hell isnt all that bad of a place.

And maybe thats why Satan rebelled aginst God and heaven..
Becasue Lucifer knew that it was a corupted system.. And hence he was cast out.. By someone who is suppose to be all loving and caring..

Hmmm sounds alot like how this world works..
Men and their manipulations are really hurting us from growing as a people.
To much fear.. And to many men claiming they know the will of GOD..

WE do not know what Gods will is!!! WE do not know!!!!!
Why dont people get that? Well its becasue their ego wont allow them to say.. I dont know.. Always have to come up with some BS reason.
When you can be humble and say.. We dont know.. But lets just try to love eachother until the end.. maybe thats part of it..

When you say that God punished the people who died in the earthquake in China, you reveal your belief that you better than these people that you never knew or met.
You were not punished by God, but those man, woman, children, toddlers and babies were. So you are better, more worthy to continue living than they are.
They died. People were lost. Other people are directly affected by that loss.
And then you say God punished them.
Arrogance.

reply to post by zysin5


You should really look into how china is harvesting organs, mobile execution uniits. You have a child like view of the Almighty God. You are wrong that we do not know gods will. Maybe you have a hard heart? Gods will is pretty plain to see. What about MOses and Pharogh? The entire army killed. It was their decision. I guess that is just a myth to you? There is a verse Old Testament that says in so many words when a people do evil "the land will spew you out". The chinese government has murdered many of my brothers in christ. Opression is bad. When a government imposes their evil will on your ability to choose your eteranl destination (desti - NATION), it looses it's spiritual right to govern and is exercising TYRANNY on it's population. Outside of natural causes, judgement can come to a nation. I was told by two guys from england, that they saw on BBC, half tracks running over people asleep, arms flying everywhere in Tinimin Square. Once a commie allways a commie. China took over the Spratly Islands becasue there is oil there. That is part of Territorial Phillipines. I know because my wife is phillipino and a brother in law was stationed on a island used to rescue Phillipino fishermen. China just took it for the oil. Cina is dangerous and agressive.

reply to post by DuneKnight



LoL.

If god was angry he would of destroyed half to 75% of china, the USA, the UK, Russia, and leave the canadians to be happy.

yep.

I haven't been to church in a while. Does that mean a piano is going to fall on my head?

IF a God did exist, I believe He would not even allow certain souls in this forum to go to hell. That would be extremely insultive for the tortured souls in hell to receive these sick minds as a neighbour.

it's no coincidence that the most populated country in the world, also has large numbers of people die from natural disasters and accidents. It's not G*ds' wrath, it's math.

reply to post by Recouper


starred your post, exactly my opinion.... arrogance, superior feelings, and stamping on innocent victims of a natural disaster....



TO OP:

Look at this picture! So YOUR GOD PUNISHED them for what? For going to school in a day when an earthquake caused by YOUR GOD hit the building, making it collapse and buried them alive?????? These are just kids!!!!!!
s291.photobucket.com...
news.qq.com...


[edit on 14/5/08 by IchiNiSan]

reply to post by Recouper


my cousin was in that earthquake. and no we are no better than the Chinese, I'm generalizing humanity as a whole and taking China as an example.



[edit on 14-5-2008 by DuneKnight]

Originally posted by IchiNiSan
IF a God did exist, I believe He would not even allow certain souls in this forum to go to hell. That would be extremely insultive for the tortured souls in hell to receive these sick minds as a neighbour.

what are you suggesting? that I deserve hell? LOL how funny of you. I'm not even religious and I am not certain about hell either. I just provided a theory. lol thats the reason I post here you guys make me laugh

[edit on 14-5-2008 by DuneKnight]

I hate threads like these.

GOD did not kill anyone. Have you never looked back at the history of Earth and all the changes this planet goes through???

Please go back and check.

yep, do that.

reply to post by DuneKnight


Well, I just provided a theory as well.

But re-reading your first post it is pretty clear you do already made your judgement on China based on ignorance with mostly likely only knowing an one-sided story about Tibet and Quality issues imports. Bet you did not deepened yourself in the topics before when you made up your opinion about China.

reply to post by IchiNiSan

I dont need to deeply research a fact that I already know which is that humans everywhere are sinful by nature, and now more than ever. China has been on the news for quite awhile now and everything that comes out of it is bad news thanks to the Chinese government. one of them is killing children around the world through lead-based toys made that way out of recklessness and profit.


[edit on 14-5-2008 by DuneKnight]

Originally posted by DuneKnight
reply to post by IchiNiSan

 

I dont need to deeply research a fact that I already know which is that humans everywhere are sinful by nature, and now more than ever. China has been on the news for quite awhile now and everything that comes out of it is bad news thanks to the Chinese government. one of them is killing children around the world through lead-based toys made that way out of recklessness and profit.


[edit on 14-5-2008 by DuneKnight]

Re-look at the pictures linked to by IchiNiSan. Those people weren't killing anyone.

"a fact that I already know which is that humans everywhere are sinful by nature"

I'm interested in why you would say that God is punishing those individuals, as opposed to say... you?
Re-look at the pictures linked to by IchiNiSan again. Are you suggesting those people are being held responsable for the actions of the State by God? Do you even know what the actions of the Chinese government are?
Most people who are trying to find the truth of what's really going on in China are finding it very difficult to get reliable information.

"one of them is killing children around the world through lead-based toys made that way out of recklessness and profit."

I could pin a lot more on China than that, as most here probably could. But by saying that the people trying to live their lives in China are being punished for the sins of their Government indicates that you are of the opinion that China has been judged more sinful than other countries by God. Are you really comfortable making such an assertion?

I have an opinion. It's about you. It isn't possitive.

I hope you rethink your position.

reply to post by DuneKnight


Not doing your own due diligence research and simply believing a selective one-sided media you apparently do, blindly believing what you have heard so you don't need to do your own thinking, this is exactly what is characteristic for an ignorant person. Shame on you for joining this board with the motto denying ignorance.

Perhaps we are just hitting China back with our HAARP earthquake machine for what they did with their hurricane generator to NOLA back in 'ought 4.

Why now?

Because China is now turning their Hurricane Generator on Burma. This is our chance to smack them across the nose with our newspaper so they don't mistake it for natural coincidence.

Why Burma? To weaken the military government and set up a trade infrastructure with India across the Bay of Bengal. The Burmese are simply in the way. With Burma out of the picture, Nouveau-riche Indians will be able to flock into China by the millions they are making in outsourced labor. China is simply shifting the market. They share another portion of border directly with India, but that is extremely mountainous and possibly not even very well controlled, given the situation with Tibet.

God has nothing to do with it.

Alternative theory: Tibet is punishing China with *their* mystic earthquake machine. Or we are doing it on Tibet's behest.

Originally posted by DuneKnight
Maybe God is setting an example, if we dont follow him then we die in the same way. we have yet to learn of why earthquakes happen or else we wouldve predicted it. China did do alot of bad things these couple of years and it now has a huge ego, in the same way the roman empire had and look what happened to them. The fall of america is another sign of God's disapproval of U.S actions and social change towards gay marriages and abortion, etc. Gay marriages in my opninon is a direct violation because its spiteful towards God's creed. its like we amended something sacred and twisted it.

[edit on 13-5-2008 by DuneKnight]

"If we dont follow him then we die in the same way."

Sorry but no one is really going to take you seriously if you are stating that earthquakes are caused by the bad things people do. And every country in the world is responsible for the bad people that are born into them?

Then you say you're not religious, but think gay marriage is "a direct violation because its spiteful towards God's creed".

Something doesn't add up.

Probably almost all the people that died have nothing to do with the government, secret societies, or any of the things we consider bad. They were people trying to live a normal life, like you and me. Daily survival.

Originally posted by zysin5
When you say God.. What God are you talking about???

Why is it that people see God as some bearded fatherly figure that doles out punishment to everyone?

Time and time agin I hear.. If you dont belive what I tell you to belive your going to be punished, and then sent to a burning pit of fire, to hurt forever!!!!! But he loves you!

This thread is laughable.. I dont know what "God" you think you are talking about.. But as a man you have no idea what God even is.

You do not know the hand of God, Nor do you know the will of God.

All you know is what you where told to belive.
And Im starting to think the God you mean, is the punisher God.
The evil and spiteful God..

My God doesnt hurt anyone.. Nor does my God inflict pain upon others.
Men do that to Men.. Bottom line..
Humans are to blame..
And lets throw in mother Earth.. And claim the workings of the earth is God. You paint a very broad stroke with your claim here.

And its rather upsetting for me to think that theres people out here who really belive God would punish people?

No we punish ourselfs..
So stop pushing off all our issues on "God".
God is like the ultra mega scapegoat of this world..
And its a sad sad thing..

Like another member said.. If God is the type of God that throws down pain and death.. Well maybe hell isnt all that bad of a place.

And maybe thats why Satan rebelled aginst God and heaven..
Becasue Lucifer knew that it was a corupted system.. And hence he was cast out.. By someone who is suppose to be all loving and caring..

Hmmm sounds alot like how this world works..
Men and their manipulations are really hurting us from growing as a people.
To much fear.. And to many men claiming they know the will of GOD..

WE do not know what Gods will is!!! WE do not know!!!!!
Why dont people get that? Well its becasue their ego wont allow them to say.. I dont know.. Always have to come up with some BS reason.
When you can be humble and say.. We dont know.. But lets just try to love eachother until the end.. maybe thats part of it..

Aaaaamen brotha.



Halle-frikin-lujah.





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reply to post by masqua


Masqua, you always have a way with saying it right. I don't believe God had anything to do with any of it, mother nature did.

It's a truely sad situation in China and Myanmar and could happen to anyone at anytime. We may live and rule on this earth but we our not earths master.