Shards of the Illuminati

Originally posted by oconnection
Well what are we waiting for then? Lets get this show on the road!

It's up to The Three when they're gonna start showing off their chops. Perhaps they have stage fright.

Maybe we need to ask questions then they will provide the answer? Ok....here's one for the three where ever they may be:

After looking over the whole Iceland incident without anyone telling me directly what happened I can start to see what may have happened. The whole thing was orchestrated, cut off there food, mess with there finances, and you have a raving mad mob willing to hang those whom they perceive at fault. Regime change without spending billions, the people do the dirty work for them. A classic CIA style op if I ever saw one. Look at modern history in the past 50-60 years with what has been declassified, this sort of thing went on all the time, what makes you think it's stopped?

Am I on the right track as far as what happened in Iceland or am I just speculating?

I hope everybody doesn't mind re-asking any questions that you were waiting on.

I don't have access to anything you might have sent Maban privately and I think it would be easier to resubmit them.

If it's ok with everybody please post your questions on the forum instead of U2U because there is no way I will be able to keep up with them.

For starters, I am not an Illuminon and I have no connection with Maban's group outside of just speaking with him through ATS.

I am happy to pass on the information Maban gave me but it's not incredibly detailed and I will probably not have all the answers to satisfy everyone's curiosity.

Also, I will try to note whenever I relate something that is my opinion based on the information.

Finally, most of you already know this but I am a "Grade A Smartass" and sometimes I inject a little humor into my posts so the conversation doesn't get too dark and depressing. The nice thing about sarcasm is that most folks on ATS have the same twisted sense of humor I do. :-)

So let's light this candle (no pun intended).

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Why now and why ATS?

Sometimes in order to accomplish something you require a medium to force people to rethink their thoughts, to reevaluate their beliefs.

The timing (to me) seems pretty obvious. I think most folks would agree that it's a very scary time to be alive. Some people blame in on the information age and the media's sadistic penchant for blaring all that's wrong with the world 24 hours a day. Good news, quite simply, doesn't sell papers.

It's almost undeniable, though, that the poop hitting the fan is accelerating. I don't know if any of the rest of you feel it but (being a die hard hypochondriac and conspiracy nut) this 'darkness' just feels like a 24 hour a day punch in the gut.

Maban's timing is important for a couple of reasons. Firstly it's something we NEED to hear. It is imperative for people to know that everything is not lost and that by working together it's possible to get past this dark time and prove to ourselves (if not the universe) that humans deserve to exist. We deserve to know where we came from, why we are here and what will happen to us.

Secondly the "Illuminati" (or whatever) have gotten a bad name. The groups that have used that name down through history have done a great disservice to humanity. Are there groups of batsh*t crazy lunatics that are trying to run the world, hide the truth and control humanity? Yes, I believe so.

Are the Shards part of that group? No.

The Shards are basically custodians of the truth. They exist only to guard and protect it until humanity is ready for it. They have no political, monetary, military or ideological mission. They exist solely as sentinels and honestly don't give a damn about power or wealth, or running anything.

What I have gathered from Maban's posts is basically, "The Truth Will Set You Free".

This is a very scary concept for power brokers. Freedom has always been scary for those who seek to control the populace. And there are those groups who would stop at nothing to make sure people never find out the truth.

The Shards have been facing overwhelming attack for the last few years. They are losing members through attrition and battle. For the first time in 10,000 years their existence is in danger, and by extension the truth they protect.

That is why they have chosen this particular time and audience to reveal themselves. Their hope is that by getting more people to pay attention it will buy some time and space to regroup.

When Maban first came to ATS he was given permission to reveal a few facts and figures about the Illuminon Shards. At that time things were not nearly so critical as they are now and he was very limited to the information he could provide.

ATS was chosen because it is one of the few places on the Internet where there are hundreds of thousands of members that don't just sit back and eat up the junk that the media and governments spew. It was seen as a good place to expedite the knowledge and bring attention to their existence in a credible way.

reply to post by emsed1


I was thinking of putting together a movie and putting it on youtube about this thread so I can help and get the message out. Wonder if that's a good idea.

If this message is a vital one (I believe it is) shouldn't we consider alternate media to raise the awareness level of others outside of ATS?

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reply to post by oconnection


Iceland

I don't know all the details about Iceland but here is what I have been able to find out:

1 - Some time around the end of September or the start of October 2008 there was a high-level Shard meeting at the Icelandic Shard.

2 - Iceland had been a sort of 'headquarters' for the Shards for quite some time.

3 - Either shortly before or during the conference in Iceland, intelligence surfaced about a credible threat of attack on the Iceland Shard.

4 - The intel seems to have caught Shard security by surprise. I think they were aware that something might be attempted by 'Remnants' (see Maban's original posts for a definition) but something happened on or about Oct 2nd that caused Maban and his colleagues to respond to Iceland with great urgency.

5 - Normally 'chatter' about this sort of event is taken in context but many simultaneous events apparently raised some eyebrows.

6 - (This is my impression only, it hasn't been confirmed.) Iceland had a sudden economic and political crisis which took a lot of attention away from anything that would have been noticed by a casual observer, IE the sudden appearance of uniformed soldiers, loss of communication networks, transportation shutdowns, etc.

7 - The Icelandic Shard was attacked and essentially destroyed in a sudden and overwhelming operation. Maban other security teams were enroute but they did not arrive in time to prevent or repel the attack.

8 - Very few Shard personnel survived and escaped the attack. Maban found dozens of his colleagues murdered and the Shard facility was practically destroyed.

9 - A worldwide alert was sent ordering the other Shard teams to 'go to ground'. This means to abandon and destroy facilities, networks, data etc. and leave no trace of your presence. All Shard facilities were closed down and all Shard personnel went into hiding for a mandatory time period.

10 - During the months between the end of September and the beginning of January all the Shard resources were redeployed and new facilities were set up.

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(sorry to leave you hanging but I have to end the post for now)

reply to post by emsed1


Perhaps people on ATS don't eat up the most of what's spewed out there for public consumption but I can't say that they don't just eat up what's spewed out for alternative consumption. Thinking differently doesn't automatically mean anyone has found any sort of truth. They may simply have found a more attractive set of lies. I can say with confidence, that because my nature is not to eat up what's shoved in my face, that I don't really put any more weight on the content of subjects convered on this site any more than I do the mainstream media or the USG. Finding truth is both more complex and simpler than that. As you had alluded to in another thread, it really is found within one's self (perhaps trite but when it hits you, it hits hard and you know it is correct). When Maban had stated in prior correspondence with him that we are an intrinsicly enlightened species I think that is what he meant. Even the hardended sociopaths conceal their behavior because they know better since they are born with that knowledge. We are trained from an early age to ignore that internal light in favor of the garish temptations, accepting the lies that we have to be otherwise to survive. The table is turning on that as we speak.

reply to post by oconnection

Perhaps they want us to get upset, take to the streets so they can start throwing us away in those nifty FEMA camps, take our property, and our guns?

Unfortunately these are the sorts of things that seem highly plausible (in my humble opinion). Although “I” feel that this isn’t the immediate goal. That would be more of an end game or modern day “final solution.” See, the aim of Maban’s opposition (in the end) is the same as the Shards. Just through a different channel, and different tactics (with a sinister twist). While the Shards wish for humanity to awaken to the realization of peace through time and guidance; the Remnants aim to control humanity into “oneness,” in a situation where “the ends justify the means” ending with The Remnants in supreme control. So yes, I could see this sort of thing.

I think that this was the question that you were trying to reiterate?

Originally posted by emsed1
reply to post by oconnection

 

Iceland


8 - Very few Shard personnel survived and escaped the attack. Maban found dozens of his colleagues murdered and the Shard facility was practically destroyed.


I would like to get answer for this. People in Iceland are only 300.000 so if someone is murded or are missing we always know it. So I cant anderstend this. I know of only 2 murders sins september.

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Maban told me once that when a situation like this occurs the facility is destroyed/swept so that no evidence of their presence remains.

The authorities and news media would not have been aware due to focus on rioting and bank crisis and I don't think any of the Shard/Council/Remnant people were actually Icelanders (not sure on that) so they would not have been missed by any colleagues or family.

These are guesses on my part. I got the impression from Maban that their operations were conducted in such a manner that they would not be noticed by Icelanders.

reply to post by emsed1


That was one of my earlier points I made when I had a much more critical view on Maban's story. That is a good question though I have to admit.

If you learn about covert operations to any degree you have to understand that there has been a secret war, an invisible war going on for a long time. What could of been a murder to a medical professional looks like a natural occurring death. Just because someone's brains aren't splattered doesn't mean that there hasn't been murders occurring.

My opinion would be if I was a member of a secretive organization such as the Shards or a member of the NIA there would be procedures in place on how to dispose of bodies in a fashion that wouldn't arouse suspicion.

There have been numerous events that you can look at our very own CIA where agents "committed suicide" but there are to this day real questions if they were killed by there handlers.

More than 40 years after his death, the body of former CIA scientist Dr. Frank Olson has been exhumed. Olson’s son Eric is convinced his father was murdered by agents of the American government because he wanted to leave the CIA. Dr. Frank Olson was an expert for anthrax and other biological weapons and had top security clearance. Forensic pathologists at George Washington University performed an autopsy and concluded that Olson probably was the victim of a violent crime.

What does this say? It shows a early example of an organization willing to murder there own then cover it up. It shows how secretive organizations operate when you become a threat. They can ruin your life if that's not enough end your life and make it look like an accident, suicide, naturally occurring, or you can go up missing. All the while there trying to erase your existence.

How many times have we seen creditable whistle blowers come forward and there history starts disappearing. Suddenly they never went to that school, or they never worked there. The fact of matter is it's well with in there capabilities to do all that I've described.

Here is a good documentary regarding a formally secret operation regarding human experimentation and intersects with story of Dr. Frank Olson.

Worldlink TV: Codename Artichoke.

Google Video Link

Remember a movie called Enemy of the State? This clearly shows the capabilities of the Intelligence community but shows at least 20+ year old technology.

Remember the beginning of the movie? How the NSA kills the congressman then makes it look like a heart attack?



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Originally posted by nordurland
I would like to get answer for this. People in Iceland are only 300.000 so if someone is murded or are missing we always know it. So I cant anderstend this. I know of only 2 murders sins september.

What about deaths? Was there a spike of deaths from any type of circumstances? I know the media did report loss of life regarding the whole Iceland incident. Also what about people turning up missing?

Like I said in my post above, they know how to hide the truth very well.

It would be pretty hard to hide the fact that someone you knew suddenly wasn't around anymore. The Shards operations would have to be very insulated or there is something making these people's whole existence disappear. What about the possibility of other reasons, like they moved suddenly. Just throwing out ideas here.

I wonder how many lives were lost in Iceland tied to Shard operations.



[edit on 18-2-2009 by oconnection]

Originally posted by emsed1
I was asked to forward the information to the second person (which I did) and then we waited to hear from Maban.

The second person has left ATS for the time being. He was unable to specify the time frame of his return, only that it might be a few weeks. I have been unable to contact him for several days as well.

I am returned. I will gladly help to answer any questions anyone might have if I'm able to do so.

Originally posted by oconnection

Originally posted by nordurland
I would like to get answer for this. People in Iceland are only 300.000 so if someone is murded or are missing we always know it. So I cant anderstend this. I know of only 2 murders sins september.

What about deaths? Was there a spike of deaths from any type of circumstances? I know the media did report loss of life regarding the whole Iceland incident. Also what about people turning up missing?

Like I said in my post above, they know how to hide the truth very well.

It would be pretty hard to hide the fact that someone you knew suddenly wasn't around anymore. The Shards operations would have to be very insulated or there is something making these people's whole existence disappear. What about the possibility of other reasons, like they moved suddenly. Just throwing out ideas here.

I wonder how many lives were lost in Iceland tied to Shard operations.



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Right after everthing fell hier, there was a rumor that many have killed them self (suiside) because they lost lot of money and it is not many weeks sins I heard of one relative of my relative.Health system tried to suss on that and said that was lie in tv. And of cause people on best ages has got heart attact and cancer or stroke. So this can well be right when I think off that you said.

Okay guys, I'm going to take you up on your offer to try and answer questions - and I understand its filling in to the best of your understandings - thanks :-)

1
If you had sixty seconds to describe to someone who's battling what on the planet (including aliens), how would you describe it based on Maban's teachings/information?

2
Do either or both of you believe - without a doubt - Maban is who he says he is (i.e. a 24 year old Illuminion)? Why or why not.

3.
Do either or both of you know of the Ea/Enlil story, and if so opinions on its relevance today.

4.
What's the best wisdom/advice you've gotten so far?

5.
What can you add that I haven't thought to ask about ?

Thanks!

reply to post by nordurland


I'm having difficulty pulling up any statistics about deaths/murders/missing people in Iceland. All the data I do find is outdated and not relevant because it doesn't cover the time frame during the financial collapse occurred. It could be because there is a new government and they haven't had a chance to work on that information. It's still puzzling that I can't get updated information.

I did find a page from the official Iceland website that lists missing people.
www.missingpeople.org.uk...

[edit on 18-2-2009 by oconnection]

Originally posted by kshaund
Okay guys, I'm going to take you up on your offer to try and answer questions - and I understand its filling in to the best of your understandings - thanks :-)

You're welcome, Sir.

1
If you had sixty seconds to describe to someone who's battling what on the planet (including aliens), how would you describe it based on Maban's teachings/information?

I'm not sure I entirely understand the question?

2
Do either or both of you believe - without a doubt - Maban is who he says he is (i.e. a 24 year old Illuminion)? Why or why not.

Speaking for myself only; no, I don't -- at least not "without a doubt." All that I can offer you as to why is to say that I don't necessarily believe he's not who he says he is either. As far as I can gather there's evidence to suggest either one of the two.

If I may ask of you the same questions, though, Sir; do you believe Maban is who he says he is? If so, why? And if not, why not?

3.
Do either or both of you know of the Ea/Enlil story, and if so opinions on its relevance today.

I do, yes. But only due to reading Sitchin's Earth Chronicles. Perhaps you will agree with me in my decision that that in and of itself is not enough to form an adequate opinion as to how relevant the story of those two brothers and their father is today... then again perhaps you won't. It's all I can say, though, I'm afraid. I really just don't have an answer to the latter half of your question.

4.
What's the best wisdom/advice you've gotten so far?

Do you mean in general throughout life, or from Maban or this thread?


[edit on 18-2-2009 by Cadbury]

Originally posted by oconnection
reply to post by nordurland

 

I'm having difficulty pulling up any statistics about deaths/murders/missing people in Iceland. All the data I do find is outdated and not relevant because it doesn't cover the time frame during the financial collapse occurred. It could be because there is a new government and they haven't had a chance to work on that information. It's still puzzling that I can't get updated information.

I did find a page from the official Iceland website that lists missing people.
www.missingpeople.org.uk...

[edit on 18-2-2009 by oconnection]

I think the problem may be that these people aren't Icelanders. The council was made up of Shard leaders from around the world. They were able to travel into and out of Iceland discretely so that their presence would not be noticed or acknowledged.

I believe this 'arrangement' was one of the ideal reasons for using Iceland as an HQ.

reply to post by Cadbury


Thanks for trying!

I'll try and clarify - I got the impression some on this thread were familiar with Maban from before, and with that history added here, is where I was asking whether or not, without a doubt, what opinions are at this time -

I was asking to describe in sixty seconds your take on what's happening on earth now, according to you/Maban/etc - I ask that because I'm wondering how others see this playing out -

I have no idea whether or not Maban is who he says he is - I am not that familiar with him, only in recent weeks... I always keep an open mind because you just never know...

And yes, I guess my questions were in respect of what has been added by Maban as to wisdom, etc. I have all Sitchin's books, there just seems so much of Ea/Enlil in other ancient histories as well as to really wonder - I've also heard part of this Nibiru/Planet x thing is their patrol ship coming back and that they'll be right %$^%)! off at the mess its in...

I welcom anyone's input/opinions - thanks -

ps - I'm actually female

I was asking to describe in sixty seconds your take on what's happening on earth now, according to you/Maban/etc - I ask that because I'm wondering how others see this playing out -

We are facing a time of darkness that is going to manifest itself over the next few years. Economic destabilization in the US will mean that other less-stable governments will not be able to continue their defense and treaty obligations, which might invite occupations.

I think we are also facing a humanitarian crisis if destabilization happens. In the US particularly we will see a massive influx of refugees from the Caribbean and Latin America.

I don't know about the time frame, but certainly within the next 5-7 years our lives will not be the same as they are now.

I have no idea whether or not Maban is who he says he is - I am not that familiar with him, only in recent weeks... I always keep an open mind because you just never know...

And yes, I guess my questions were in respect of what has been added by Maban as to wisdom, etc. I have all Sitchin's books, there just seems so much of Ea/Enlil in other ancient histories as well as to really wonder - I've also heard part of this Nibiru/Planet x thing is their patrol ship coming back and that they'll be right %$^%)! off at the mess its in...

I welcom anyone's input/opinions - thanks -

ps - I'm actually female

Originally posted by kshaund
reply to post by Cadbury

 

I have no idea whether or not Maban is who he says he is - I am not that familiar with him, only in recent weeks... I always keep an open mind because you just never know...

Yeah and you will never know kshaund none of us will. This thread is 60 pages long tell me someone wheres the knowledge, the revelation that makes maban who he says he is.

Its all conjecture and people are the worse for getting dragged into something that at best is supposition and in the least the product of an over active imagination. Nothing can or will be proven here other than a peoples need to believe in something.

Can you reject this statement with anything other than, 'we want to believe'? Maban, Emsed1, Cadbury.

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