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Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Originally posted by jfj123
Nice subject change instead of answering the question.
You're an Expert...Please Expert only in dodging questions
But i thought people that believed the official 9/11 story to be the truth were supposed to know everything,, you mean you do not really know what happened on 9/11 or anything else?
You are in expert in avoiding posting evidnece to support your fantasies or the official story when asked.
Since you have failed to show any evindece to show they exist then they must not. END OF DISCUSSION.
Originally posted by jfj123
I nor anyone else on this thread has ever claimed to know "everything". This would be a deliberate misrepresentation on your part.
Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Originally posted by jfj123
I nor anyone else on this thread has ever claimed to know "everything". This would be a deliberate misrepresentation on your part.
Thats funny i have had pelnty of people like you who believe the official story state that they know evrything that happened that day becasue of the official story. Just ask Disclosed.
When are you going to stop this debate and show us some real facts and hard, physical evindece that supports the official story?
Originally posted by RomanMaroni
I know you question my research skills, and that's fine, but since you made the statement that you believe the official time line is correct, I must question yours also.
I detect a semi hostile tone in your replies to me. I'm not trying to argue with you, I am merely trying to have a discussion.
My statement about agents helping the terrorists is speculation. By you saying I need to name names, I can't because it's speculation.
Al-Qaeda has its origins in the uprising against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. Thousands of volunteers from around the Middle East came to Afghanistan as mujahideen, warriors fighting to defend fellow Muslims. In the mid-1980s, Osama bin Laden became the prime financier for an organization that recruited Muslims from mosques around the world. These "Afghan Arab" mujahideen, which numbered in the thousands, were crucial in defeating Soviet forces.
After the Soviets withdrew from Afghanistan, bin Laden returned to his native Saudi Arabia. He founded an organization to help veterans of the Afghan war, many of whom went on to fight elsewhere (including Bosnia) and comprise the basis of al-Qaeda.
Bin Laden also studied with radical Islamic thinkers and may have already been organizing al-Qaeda when Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990. Bin Laden was outraged when the government allowed U.S. troops to be stationed in Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam.
After his expulsion from Saudi Arabia, bin Laden established headquarters for al-Qaeda in Khartoum, Sudan. The first actions of al-Qaeda against American interests were attacks on U.S. servicemen in Somalia. A string of terrorist actions suspected to have been orchestrated by al-Qaeda followed, and in August 1996 bin Laden issued a "Declaration of War" against the U.S.
Al-Qaeda also worked to forge alliances with other radical groups. In February 1998, bin Laden announced an alliance of terrorist organizations—the "International Islamic Front for Jihad Against the Jews and Crusaders"—that included the Egyptian al-Gama'at al-Islamiyya, the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, the Harakat ul-Ansar, and other groups.
In 1994 Sudan expelled bin Laden, who moved his base of operations to Afghanistan. Bin Laden was the "guest" of the Taliban until the U.S. drove them from power in Nov. 2001. Al-Qaeda set up terrorist training camps.
Although al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden have become virtually synonymous, bin Laden does not run the organization single-handedly. His top advisor is Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri, al-Qaeda's theological leader and bin Laden's probable successor. He was likely instrumental in bin Laden's political evolution.
Al-Zawahiri is suspected of helping organize the 1997 massacre of 67 foreign tourists in the Egyptian town of Luxor and was indicted in connection with the bombing of U.S. embassies in Tanzania and Kenya. In 1998, he was one of five Islamic leaders to sign on to bin Laden's declaration calling for attacks against U.S. citizens.
Al-Qaeda's leadership oversees a loosely organized network of cells. It can recruit members from thousands of "Arab Afghan" veterans and radicals around the world. Its infrastructure is small, mobile, and decentralized—each cell operates independently with its members not knowing the identity of other cells. Local operatives rarely know anyone higher up in the organization's hierarchy.
Al-Qaeda differs significantly from more traditional terrorist organizations. It does not depend on the sponsorship of a political state, and, unlike the PLO or the IRA, it is not defined by a particular conflict. Instead, al-Qaeda operates as a franchise. It provides financial and logistical support, as well as name recognition, to terrorist groups operating in such diverse places as the Philippines, Algeria, Eritrea, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Tajikistan, Somalia, Yemen, and Kashmir. Furthermore, local groups may act in the name of al-Qaeda in order to bolster their own reputation—even if they are not receiving support from the organization.
I agree it's not illegal to take flight training, but people were notified about these individuals being very suspicious yet nothing was done.
Your statement about the military existing crossed the line into ridiculous and you and I both know that.
So, try to keep the conversation in reality please.
And try not to talk down to people you don't know.
It shows you as being very defensive and conveys a tone that you are unable to have a sensible discussion.
Originally posted by jfj123
Unfortunately because you refuse to read posts before posting yourself you must have missed the fact that I nor anyone else here as EVER said the know EVERYTHING.
Many have, you have refused to either read the info or you are not able to comprehend the info. which is not our fault.
Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Originally posted by jfj123
Unfortunately because you refuse to read posts before posting yourself you must have missed the fact that I nor anyone else here as EVER said the know EVERYTHING.
Many have, you have refused to either read the info or you are not able to comprehend the info. which is not our fault.
1. Then you have never read many of the post from Disclosed, he thinks he knows everything that happend that day becasue he is brainwashed by the media to believe the official story, like most of you.
2. I will make you challenge (if you are man enough to accept)
If you can show me the following i will admit i am wrong, but if you cannot then you must admit the official story is just a theory.
Show me a FBI or NTSB crime scene report that matches the parts found to any of the 9/11 planes.
[edit on 3-5-2008 by ULTIMA1]
Originally posted by jfj123
I already made you an offer you laughed at. You had your chance. The world doesn't revolve around you.
Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Originally posted by jfj123
I already made you an offer you laughed at. You had your chance. The world doesn't revolve around you.
Ok, you just let everyone know you do not have any evidence to support your fantasies or the official story.
[edit on 3-5-2008 by ULTIMA1]
I'll make you a deal. Answer the same 3 simple questions that I have posted 7 times previous, and I'll answer any question you like. Does that sound fair???? A flight expert such as yourself should be able to breeze through those 3 simple little questions.
No, my questions must be answered first, since i have been asking them for a lot longer time.
Originally posted by ULTIMA1
...you must admit the official story is just a theory.
[edit on 3-5-2008 by ULTIMA1]
Originally posted by jfj123
your response was
No, my questions must be answered first, since i have been asking them for a lot longer time.
It just shows that you have been refusing to post evidence when asked for a long time.
Thanks again for showing everyone its been a long time that you have not posted evidence when asked
Originally posted by HLR53K
Umm...isn't this a given?
Originally posted by ULTIMA1
No, a lot of people believe the official story to be fact even though they cannot post evindece to support it.
by ULTIMA1
I will make you challenge (if you are man enough to accept)
If you can show me the following i will admit i am wrong, but if you cannot then you must admit the official story is just a theory.
Originally posted by jfj123
I already made you an offer you laughed at. You had your chance. The world doesn't revolve around you.
by ULTIMA1
Ok, you just let everyone know you do not have any evidence to support your fantasies or the official story.
I'll make you a deal. Answer the same 3 simple questions that I have posted 7 times previous, and I'll answer any question you like. Does that sound fair???? A flight expert such as yourself should be able to breeze through those 3 simple little questions.
No, my questions must be answered first, since i have been asking them for a lot longer time.
Originally posted by HLR53K
That's your belief. It's still a given that all anyone has posted are theories.
Originally posted by jfj123
So based on your own logic, since you refused my offer as I refused yours, that means "you just let everyone know you do not have any evidence to support your fantasies or your stories."
Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Yes you and i know that but several people believe the stuff they post from the official story is actually real.
Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Originally posted by jfj123
So based on your own logic, since you refused my offer as I refused yours, that means "you just let everyone know you do not have any evidence to support your fantasies or your stories."
So you just showed everyone that you refused to post evidnece when i asked FIRST.
So i refused to answer your questions untill mine were answered that i have been asking.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND ?