Bees vanish- all life has 4 yrs to live on Earth

There is a very simple explanation to this....

For a number of years there has been corporate influences to 'patent' certain genes for profitable persute.

What has happened is that corporations are slightly changing the genetic make up seeds and plants in 3rd world countries to make them 'their own' and therefore they have legal rights to these new starins of plant life.

If bees are in the loop then they cannot say for sure they have made that new gene and in fact pollinated it legally.

they are simply taking out the middle man (bees) so then they can have control of the farming and pollination of any genetic strain.

Valorian

reply to post by Obliv_au


Thats becuse of the bee subsidies the US has had for years. We have stockpiled honey for 60 years and not put a dent in the supply. Honey doesn't spoil like other commodities so the warehouses are full and the world market isn't effected.
Zindo

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Amazing how much interest this thread has generated. Glad to see it. There have been lots of ideas put forward, and I suspect many capture a part of the problem - its never just one thing, but in the end I think the link in beaverg's post way back on page 5, to the Bee's Needs video series (www.youtube.com...) has struck a chord with me. It seems commercial hives are more affected than organic or private hives. The big difference is the inability of bees to alter/adjust the "size" of their honey combs due to a preset structure imposed by the design of the corporate hives. The size issue affects harmonics, which relates to changes from planet alignments; etc. Bees in natural hives build things to suit this environmental variable - bees in corporate hives are not free to. The result is an unsuitable environment in the corporate hives - and the bees are rejecting them.
Bees in nature seem to be doing OK as far as I can glean from comments.

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Sounds like your having the same problem in the UK that we had in the US state of Maine with our blueberry crops in 1993. Mites and hive break down caused by the mites.
Zindo

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Valorian, this makes sense when it comes to control and corporate greed anything goes, and possibly including sacrificing the bees. The corporations want to control the new generation of modified seeds and crops and eventually take all the old seeds created by our Creator off the market.

Could there be what we call food wars in the near future including corporations controlling what, when, how much you can eat and what you can grow? Rik Riley



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Some time ago this thread was talked about much.. Where did all the bees go to?
Now last night on the news channle, there was a report about Invading bees!
And now here in Florida there is a high influx in bees, and they are acting funny said a spokes man..

I find it odd.. A few months ago the bees where missing.. And now in this month the bees are invading?? What gives..
Seems odd to me that all this talk about bees gone missing.. And now there are to many bees..

Reminds me of schools.. first it was give the kids a head start.
Now its no kid left behind.

Head start, no kid left behind.. WTF happened there?

A strange world indeed..

On some what related news the africanised bees finnaly got their acts together albiet several years late. Apparently 15 different people in different parts of the las vegas valley were attacked by bees. Seems the africanised bee scare you can hear about in one of micheal moore's old videos was not entirely false the bees just took their time and patiently waited to get us.

Oh yes Steven colbert talked about how bees are also squatting in houses people were kicked out of because of the housing bubble or something. I also heared there was acts of terrorism commited by bees, that's linked to some kind of underground fight club consisting of bees.

Originally posted by Vasilis Azoth
This bee die off IS very serious, but...

Einstein wasn't a biologist and although I love his wisdom(ussually) in this case he is clearly wrong.

Bee's aren't the only method of pollination. Thousands of other types of insects do it as well. Not to mention the wind. So although the ecology might suffer a collapse and OUR envirounment might become unlivable for a while LIFE would go on just fine. Probably better without us actually.

Vas

Isn't is funny that this "Einstein said about bees..." crap repeats with every thread there is about this bee dieoff? Even I wrote a thread once about bees and I repeated the same crap (originally I thought it was Darwin however. Here's the link if anyone wanna have laugh at my expense)

Anyway, this is an important topic, altho the life woudn't necessarily end if bees would vanish, because of other polluters. It could certainly cause famine, and aren't we seeing it already... Food prices rocket sky high, people are dying.. but hey, isn't that we need, if we look reality face to face? I'm not saying I'm fancying it, but this situation is our own fault.

The breeding of super bees to more resist disease is underway in the U.S., New Zealand and around the globe. Here are a few sites that explain what is going on with the research and results.

archives.record-eagle.com...

www.hortresearch.co.nz...

www.cfbf.com...

Rik Riley



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Looks like a new movie produced by M. Night Shyamalan called "The Happening" deals with this subject and much more. Looks promising.

Watch "The Happening" Trailer Here

Originally posted by Zealott
Oh yes Steven colbert talked about how bees are also squatting in houses people were kicked out of because of the housing bubble or something. I also heared there was acts of terrorism commited by bees, that's linked to some kind of underground fight club consisting of bees.

Fight club for bees...What a hoot,lol!!!!!!!!!
Zindo

Beekeepers are doing their own research when it comes to the Colony Collapse Disorder learning about honeybee nutrition and what to feed them. Although government agencies are doing their own studies sometimes the results are not shared with the beekeepers who need to know what is going on to improve their colonies. This article tells the story. Rik Riley

www.thedailygreen.com...

How does temperature and climate effect the honeybee? Will the pollinators and plants get out of sync? This article tells the story on how important to the survival of the hive it is in keeping it at a constant temperature and how the bees keep the temperature at a constant 93 degrees to protect the honeybee larvae from dying. Rik Riley

earthobservatory.nasa.gov...





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Help the Honey Bees

....been through the majority of this thread, haven't see this 60 Minutes clip (part 1, 8+ minutes, edited) posted yet..... specialists think it's pesticides that killed up to 1/3 of the U.S. population of bees -- this is beyond an imminent disaster. Food shortages, oh yeah, we're in for literal hell. Trust "government scientists" in solving this problem? Right.

60 Minutes: "Why Are Honeybees Disappearing?" (part 1, Oct., 2007)

Part 2, 4+ minutes

....on the edit: read all the posts, noticed some 'other' reasons for this situation aside from chemicals, viruses, conspiracies with microwave technology, etc., thinking on-the-spot about this, the 60M clip has a farmer who transports bees, he's been stung, "maybe thousands of times," two years ago when in Florida he mentions crawling around the ground looking for dead bees wondering where they were/are.

Lastly, that movie trailer, The Happening, anybody else catching the sudden apocalyptic nature of this topic/advanced preparation via said scientists possibly, probably in-the-know? Movie is to be released Friday the 13th, this June..... all I picture now is that seed vault.

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if you don't have kids, you could probably handle a beehive in the backyard

the Beehive Patent in .pdf format
Wiki on modern beehives
traditional beehives

old Albert if he has his numbers right has a point and beehives in the backyard probably won't be the answer, but they seem easy enough to build at home so i am not too worried if it's an issue with their natural environments being clear cut or strip mined, but bee AIDS and we are in for it

Originally posted by groingrinder
Bees are all over the sage bushes outside my window.

I have heard the bees disappearing blamed on a virus from Israel as well as pesticides.

Ya just blame the Jews like you people always do..

i hate bees. when i was younger i got stung by 80 bees once. my friends are scared of bees to. there was a bee in the car and we had to pull over and get out. it turns out that the bee was dead lying on the floor and i dont know why my friend so dumb but he is. he made it sound like there was a wasp in the car.

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My daughter is deathly afraid of bees and will panic if one comes near her. As a kid my best friend would catch bees that landed inside flowers and wrap the honey bee quick and gently of course with the pedals into a cocoon. This was a dare from the kids in the neighborhood to see if he could do it without being stung. He then would release the the bee unharmed and leave the flower in tact attached to the stem without picking it or pulling it out of the ground.

This was gutsy plus stupid and he would get stung very rarely but he was fast as lightning and did it in one swift folding movement. LOL Rik Riley





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