Meet the Dead Hijackers

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
I'll have to disagree with you. DNA is evidence.

Originally posted by Seymour Butz
It was collected properly. It was analyzed properly.

Therefore it's proof.

Their is no DNA evidence that all the hijackers are dead.


[edit on 30-4-2008 by ULTIMA1]

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
I'll have to disagree with you. DNA is evidence.

Originally posted by Seymour Butz
It was collected properly. It was analyzed properly.

Therefore it's proof.

Their is no DNA evidence that all the hijackers are dead.

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Yes there is.

Show otherwise if you disagree.


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[edit on 30-4-2008 by elevatedone]

Captian NOT SO obvious;

This is a good one, they found one of the lead hijacker's paper passport within the rubble of the world trade centers, YET INSIST THERE WAS A RAGING INFERNO. You want us to believe that his passport jumped out his coat, morphed through the impact fireball, put on a magical shield, then slipped and slid its way through the collapse, then teleported into mid-air and lofted itself gently to be found by the authorities to "prove" once and for all that one of the hijackers did it. Im sorry buddy, Scarecrow knows BS and he doesnt have a brain, do you??



Peace

CR

I was thinking too how silly this sounds. But, if your going to plant evidence...why make it sooooo obvious?? I think if the government DID plant the passport...they were not thinking.

That aside, MANY light weight objects survived the initial impact. Like in most plane crashes.

It is known that some debris from the aircraft travelled completely through the structure. For example, life jackets and portions of seats from the aircraft were found on the roof of the Bankers Trust building, located to the south of WTC2. Part of the landing gear from this aircraft was found at the corner of West and Rector streets, some five blocks south of the WTC complex.

www.fema.gov...

On September 11 2002, one year Anniversary of the death of our son, we were informed that the Recovery team at Ground Zero have found the ATM Bank card of Waleed [Iskandar, passenger on Flight 11] and that it will be mailed to us in Northridge. When we received it, we found it in good condition.

How could a plastic card survive the fire of the terrorist attack of the Black Tuesday on the USA?
I consider it as a sign from Waleed to his parents on the first Anniversary of his loss.

www.iskandar.com...

"Orange County, CA., Sept. 11 - Lisa Anne Frost was 22 and had just graduated from Boston University in May 2001 with two degrees and multiple academic and service honors. She had worked all summer in Boston before coming home, finally, to California to start her new life. The Rancho Santa Margarita woman was on United Flight 175 on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, when it became the second plane to slam into the World Trade Center...

Her parents, Tom and Melanie Frost, have spent two years knowing they will never understand why.

A few days before the first anniversary of our daughter's murder, we were notified that they had found a piece of her in the piles and piles of gritty rubble of the World Trade Center that had been hauled out to Staten Island. It was Lisa's way, we believe, of telling us she wasn't lost.
In February, the day of the Columbia tragedy, we got word they'd found her United Airlines Mileage Plus card. It was found very near where they'd found a piece of her right hip. We imagine that she used the card early on the morning of Sept. 11 to get on the plane and just stuck it in her back pocket, probably her right back pocket, instead of in her purse. They have found no other personal effects".

216.239.59.104...:tI2PQRqfJiIJ:www.msnbc.com/local/MYOC/M324557.asp

On Oct. 12, it arrived inside a second envelope at Mrs. Snyder's modest white house on Main Street here, and the instant she took it out and saw it, she says, chills just went over me. It was singed and crumpled. A chunk was ripped out, giving the bottom of the envelope she had sent the look of a jagged skyline. Mrs. Snyder's lyrical script had blurred into the scorched paper. The stamp, depicting a World War II sailor embracing a woman welcoming him home, was intact.

Along with the letter was a note: To whom it may concern. This was found floating around the street in downtown New York. I am sorry if you suffered any loss in this tragedy. Sincerely, a friend in New York!
Since then, Mrs. Snyder, a customer service representative at a grocery store, has discovered that she has one of only two pieces of mail known to have been recovered from the planes that crashed into the World Trade Center. At least one auction house has contacted her, saying she could sell the letter for tens of thousands of dollars.

One Letter's Odyssey Helps Mend a Wound
New York Times
December 20, 2001

reply to post by ThroatYogurt


Throat.....thank you. Am crying, from those reports.

WW

Originally posted by Seymour Butz

Yes there is.

Show otherwise if you disagree.

I have already posted the evindece from the Arlington Cemetary site that stated there was no DNA for the Hijackers from Flight 77.

So again,

THERE IS NO DNA EVIDENCE OF ALL THE HIJACKERS BEING DEAD.

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

I have already posted the evindece from the Arlington Cemetary site that stated there was no DNA for the Hijackers from Flight 77.

So again,

THERE IS NO DNA EVIDENCE OF ALL THE HIJACKERS BEING DEAD.

Your failure to accept evidence that meets society's and the court's standard for what can be accepted as evidence does not mean that there is no evidence to prove that the hijackers are dead.

it only means that you choose to not accept it.

Originally posted by Seymour Butz
Your failure to accept evidence that meets society's and the court's standard for what can be accepted as evidence does not mean that there is no evidence to prove that the hijackers are dead.

Their is no evidence that shows all the hijackers are dead.

The reports would not hold up in court becasue there is reasonable doubt.

reply to post by weedwhacker


Weed,

Sorry brother. I think what most of us forget as we bicker on this forum are the people that lost their loved ones. The nightmares that continue to haunt them so many years later.

Sorry to the OP for the derail. My previous post was in reply to someone talking about a passport being found.

:TY:

reply to post by ULTIMA1


Ultima is correct that all the hijackers were indeed not identified through DNA evidence.

There were only a few that were. Fact is, the hijackers on flight 93 were listed as John Doe's because there was not any DNA to be matched.

Let's look objectivly at this though. Some here like Ultima are claiming that the evidence provided that showed the hijackers dead would not stand in court due to resonable doubt.

Fair enough..... The million dollar question is, Where is the doubt?

You have hijackers on video stating they are going to attack the United States.

You have the same hijackers purchasing tickets with their credit cards.

you have the same hijackers on security video at the airports.

I'm sure you have all seen the massive list that has been presented here.

IS there resonable doubt? I can't see any. Besides the typical CT's that are rehashed in here daily, there isn't any evidence what so ever that shows any of the hijackers are alive, or there is sufficient doubt provided that would allow me to believe they are alive.

I do however hold the option out there to change my mind if such evidence was presented.

Thanks for listening.

:TY:


[edit on 1-5-2008 by ThroatYogurt]

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by CaptainObvious
There have been several threads created discussing the 19 hijackers involved in attacks on 911.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Glad to see you say 'dead' hijackers. Some think the hijackers are still alive and running around ... along with all the dead people who were on the airplanes (like Barbara Olsen).

They are dead. Dead, dead, dead.

So where is your evidence that they are all dead?



[edit on 25-4-2008 by ULTIMA1]

They had parachutes?

reply to post by agent4101


agent....please explain....(I know you were joking, but we don't want the misconception to spread)...how the parachutes would work, from an airplane that is pressurized, hence the doors won't open, because they are designed to be 'plug-doors'....they have to move 'inward' before moving outward...and a pressurized vessel will not allow the inward movement in the first place.

The maximum cabin psi (Boeing) for take-off and landing is .125psi. At that level, human strength, operating the various levers that are attached to the doors or the emergency exits, can open them....

In flight, the psid is so great, the doors will not open. Period.....the cabin is pressurized, and the exterior environment has less pressure, and the doors ar 'plug-type'.....'nuf said!

WW

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
IS there resonable doubt? I can't see any.

The biggest evidence against the official story is the lack of evidnence that supports it.

1. Vidoes of the terrorists can be faked.

2. No airport security footage of the terrorists getting on the planes.

3. No evidence that all the hijackers are dead.

4. No evidence to match parts found to any of the 9/11 planes.

Originally posted by agent4101
They had parachutes?

Where is your evidence that all the hijackers are dead?

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by agent4101
They had parachutes?

Where is your evidence that all the hijackers are dead?

ULTIMA1, your talking to brick walls my friend.

They have no evidence whatsoever that the hijackers are dead. No DNA, No Blood, No body parts no nothing, oh wait they did find that paper passport that put on a magical shield and morphed its way through the raging inferno, sorry my bad, i guess thats all the proof they need lol

Peace

CR

reply to post by ULTIMA1


ULTIMA....teh Mods should give you a warning....and they let you slide, they have given you you too much leeway, for far TOO LONG!!! MODS....this person has repeatedly.....over two dozen times now, responded with a one-line post.....yet not one Mod has come forward to slap his hand!!

I posted, and asked a Mod to slap my hand, and what did I get? A five-hundred point slap!!!

See, I asked for it, and got attention. This poster keeps slapping people in the face, and gets no attention!!!!!!

I am asking.....where is the balance?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Where is the dignity, where is the balance?????

WW

reply to post by weedwhacker


ULTIMA1 has done nothing wrong at all.

Above Top Secret's motto is: Seek the truth, deny ignorance.

So we seek the truth.

Where is the evidence for the hijackers being deceased? DNA evidence?

Peace

CR

reply to post by weedwhacker


my rtesponse to myself....ATS is done!

If the mods don't know how to moderate themselves, then ATS is a spoof, a fool's paradise.....it is becoming a characture (sp?) of itself....such a shame.....

WW

[edit]....I could give a crap about the 500 points.....ATS seems to be spiraling downward, based on my recent experience. Anyone else starting to feel the same way, feel free to come forward and express!!

[edit on 5/2/0808 by weedwhacker]

[edit on 5/2/0808 by weedwhacker]

reply to post by weedwhacker


I shall continue this fight with those who wish to chain you.

Move along if you have no facts for the question that has been asked numerous times.

No one is stopping you from posting in other threads. Maybe the forum: SKUNK WORKS is much to your taste.

Peace

CR

Originally posted by Conspiracy Realist
reply to post by weedwhacker

 

I shall continue this fight with those who wish to chain you.

Move along if you have no facts for the question that has been asked numerous times.

No one is stopping you from posting in other threads. Maybe the forum: SKUNK WORKS is much to your taste.

Peace

CR

CR, there are many, many other threads....there is also much, much data, in the public realm, to show the facts of UAL 93....if you only get your 'facts' from certain internet sites, then you aren't doing the due diligence.....

Sorry to be so harsh, but it is the truth....do the hard work, stop relying on youtube!!!

WW