Terra papers : Hidden History of Planet Earth - Now Online!

Why is it that every single time somebody does not believe something, keeps debating against believing something, he must then be closed minded?

Does it not ring a bell that if somebody believes everything but never really understand why he should believe criticism, it is he - the believer - who is closed minded. Complete incapability to reason is the most closed system of though ever.

Originally posted by conxposer
reply to post by Amaterasu

 

The people like "Boriska", the indigo child, are FIRST TIME incarnates of alien souls experiencing human physical incarnation.

I am curious... When did the Indigos start coming here? Or are they scattered throughout history? Perhaps I am one...? I know I went through many tests and psychological evaluations when I was a child.

I am not sure why, exactly, except they just kept telling me I was brighter than the norm. [shrug]

Also, you didn't address my questions about the manipulation of matter...

Originally posted by Amaterasu
I am curious... When did the Indigos start coming here? Or are they scattered throughout history? Perhaps I am one...?

Never, because there is no such thing. Not one person has been able to supply any empirical evidence such children exist, and the criteria for judging an "indigo child" are so vague as to apply to almost any child at any time. Most likely, it's parents looking for an explaination for their child being precocious or suffering from a mental disability..

Originally posted by Amaterasu
I know I went through many tests and psychological evaluations when I was a child.

Oh, the jokes write themselves...

reply to post by SaviorComplex


Here, that's what I mean derailing a thread. Amaterasu wasn't asking you a question. We already know your answer to our question.
Why are you here if you don't believe in any of this, deciding what is true.
We are here to talk about things and maybe gain some new insights, and you are making it very hard.
Keep holding on to your precious "proof" and you'll still be here, while some of us will be someplace else. Don't try to hold us back.

[edit on 2/5/08 by enigmania]

Originally posted by enigmania
Here, that's what I mean derailing a thread. Amaterasu wasn't asking you a question. We already know your answer to our question.

It doesn't matter who he was asking a question to. Anyone can answer the questions or respond to posts. If you want to have a private conversation, take it to U2U.

And we already know the answer you would give...so why do you bother posting?

Originally posted by enigmania
Why are you here if you don't believe in any of this, deciding what is true.
We are here to talk about things and maybe gain some new insights, and you are making it very hard.

Anyone can be here and comment, whether they believe or not.

You are not looking for insights. Your comment and outrage proves you a liar. You are looking for people who agree with you and will nod their empty heads to whatever drivel comes out of your fingertips. If you are looking for insights, you would not whine someone is derailing the conversation, and demand they leave, for not agreeing with you.

Does anyone know exactly where and when this UFO crash occurred? Is there any eyewitness testimony to it? Corroborating, even circumstantial, evidence to it? I see nothing about this in the papers themselves.

This is a very basic starting point, so far not mentioned, to begin to judge the validity of these writings.

reply to post by SaviorComplex


You don't get it do you? I don't care if people don't agree with me, it's the fact that you keep saying things are not true, when there is no evidence to prove it is true or not true.
It's the fact that you are disturbing a conversation between people that do believe, or are interested in a certain subject and making it harder for them to develop their own views and ask any further questions they might have, by cutting it down.
You are not worthy of your motto.

Originally posted by enigmania
You don't get it do you? I don't care if people don't agree with me, it's the fact that you keep saying things are not true, when there is no evidence to prove it is true or not true.

And what evidence have you folks presented other than gut feelings and challened information? Nothing. So looks like I'm par for the course.

And for someone who keeps whining that the conversation is being disrupted, you don't seem to mind getting off the subject matter and discuss me. I'm not the topic, neither is my skepticism. You smell the hypocracy? No one is allowed to be skeptical, because that's disruptive; but discussing someone and whining about their skepticism isn't.

You have three choices. Either stop whining, put me on ignore, or move the conversation into U2U if you don't want other people to comment. That simple. But don't sit there are whine that people are "off topic" and "derailing" the conversation when you are the one doing it.

reply to post by SaviorComplex

And what evidence have you folks presented other than gut feelings and challened information? Nothing. So looks like I'm par for the course.

Are you blind, I said in the text you qouted, that there isn't any evidence at all.

And for someone who keeps whining that the conversation is being disrupted, you don't seem to mind getting off the subject matter and discuss me. I'm not the topic, neither is my skepticism. You smell the hypocracy? No one is allowed to be skeptical, because that's disruptive; but discussing someone and whining about their skepticism isn't.

That's smart, see that's the problem with derailers, do nothing: they derail the thread, do something: they still derail the thread, but make you part of the derailing.
I already admitted by myself I was guilty to this, in a earlier post.
So, l'll leave at that then, let the people decide for themselves.

Ok, I know this is going to be a strange post, and is only applicable to me... but it is related to this discussion.

I found out about the Terra Papers by a link in this thread about George Green. Searching for information about Robert Morningsky brought me to this interview with Red Elk, which also struck me as very interesting.

I am not a big one for Kundalini meditation, but I have been practicing. Four days ago, after a night of researching all of these connections I prayed for a sign to show me which path to follow. As I went to bed at 6am.. I looked out my big window facing east... there stood the biggest deer I have ever seen. S/he was huge, and was grazing on the fresh green grass on my mound system about 30 feet from the window. As I watched it, two ducks flew over heading south. I have lived here 16 years, and I have never seen such a beautiful example of the beauty of God's creatures in my yard. Suddenly it hit me... this was the sign I was asking for. The large buck represented Red Elk... this was the 1st path I should follow. The ducks represented Robert Morningsky (birds... as in how he dresses during his ceremony).

I took all of this to mean that I should start out on the path of Red Elk's teachings to begin with, then later I should follow the teachings of Robert Morningsky. To me it was an amazing revelation, and it spoke to my spirit in a way I had never been touched before.

The nice thing about Red Elk, is that he still has God and Jesus as a center part of his philosophy. Father Sky, Mother Earth, and our Granfather God. See, I can not turn my back on a friend who has given me no reason to doubt them. I can not leave my connection to God and Jesus, it is who I am... and though there have been times when I could not connect to God.. it was because of my own failings and spiritual troubles... not Gods denial of me. Red Elk also believes that the Holy Spirit is the feminine side of the spiritual experience who has been all but been stripped of any name or personal identification by men and modern religion. The Holy Spirit has been my personal connection to God since I was 24, and there is no way I could ever deny her existence in my life.

So anyway... I did not know if I should post this or not because I am sure it only relates to my spiritual path. I think maybe one or two of you might find this interestingly related to your own search for the path you are yearning for.

So now everything makes sense, at least to me. I hope these few words might also help another to find their path.
yr

reply to post by enigmania


Enigmania,
The aliens are interested in their own survival. Hence life extension is their goal. Aliens try to beat two things. Technology (Materialism) and Death (Spirituality) Those are the two things they try to hold onto AT ALL COSTS...because that is the only way they can progress AS A SPECIES.

Species (GROUPS) do not progress very fast...only as fast as the slowest of the lot. So, in order to progress spiritually, you have to take the "Quantum Leap" and go human. All aliens are interested in this path, since the inhabitants of alien physical bodies are the SAME SOULS THAT OCCUPY HUMAN BODIES, but they are living a comjpletely different EXPERIENCE.

The EXPERIENCE is the KEY to GROWTH. not what physical body you are incarnated in. The physical body is what is challenged and what needs to be overcome in order to advance spiritually.

All the aliens can do is watch!!! -- They are nothing more than interested "Voyeurs" of our spiritual journay, since we are the APEX.

And yes, Enigma, they are AFRAID!!! VERY AFRAID!!!
That we, humans will wake up to our potential, and see at last that we have a choice in this cosmic game plan...then it will be GAME OVER for the aliens who want to control us.

It's almost GAME OVER anyways......only 4 more years until the Earth Spirit EXITS the GAME, shimself.


[edit on 2-5-2008 by conxposer]

reply to post by mikesingh


The reason the author claims this...that we are theirs...their slaves, servants etc. is because Robert Morning Sky HAS NOT READ MATRIX V and because the alien who communicated this to Robert, believed it themselves, so therefore, Robert took it as absolute fact, since there are no contradictions to look at in the story itself.

The OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY is the Matrix V, the SPIRIT, SHIMSELF and what role the spirit plays in all this drama. Robert only had HALF THE STORY, and until people read the Matrix V, they will only have half the story as well.

reply to post by SaviorComplex


Hey Saviorcomplex,
I think you needto watch the Project Camelot Video interview with Boriska before you open your mouth too wide and someone puts something in it.

Can you please explain how a 7 year old boy in Russia who has never seen an astronomy book before could explain at the dinner table to his whole family, where the location of the planets are, how far they are from each other, what life was like on Mars, and how the earth will be gone in Dec. 21, 2012.

Do you think he had access to television or something and that's how he learned about his PAST LIVES HE WAS RECALLING?

Just wondering how you can write off or explain away a child who knows the solar system like I know my own body.

You know what though, whatever your answer is, it won't suffice, so save it please.



[edit on 2-5-2008 by conxposer]

reply to post by gottago


I think it was Aztec or Corona, NM...crash.....those were the others in the same vicinity at the same time. There were lots of crashes because the government was experimenting with all kinds of radio waves and cloud bustring technology at the time. I forgot the exact reason they wer ebrought down, but it had to do with new technology we were trying out that messed with their navigational systems.

Originally posted by conxposer
Can you please explain how a 7 year old boy in Russia who has never seen an astronomy book before could explain at the dinner table to his whole family, where the location of the planets are, how far they are from each other, what life was like on Mars, and how the earth will be gone in Dec. 21, 2012.

I got it!!! I got it!!! *waves off the other fielders*

That's not actually happening. And you have no experiential or empirical data to support that story. You didn't hear the 7 yr old utter these things, you didn't see the 7 yr old uttering these things in an uncontrolled environment. All of the "facts" cited can be found in textbooks, and the rest....well, we've seen just how accurate most modern "prophets" have been. You read something on a website....thought it was cool....and with utterly zero critical thought, contemplation, or reason....decided it was on the level. It apparently never occurred to your "open mind", that someone possibly prepped the kid and fed answers to him. That alternative simply did not occur to your "open mind".





[edit on 2-5-2008 by MrPenny]

Originally posted by MrPenny

Originally posted by conxposer
Can you please explain how a 7 year old boy in Russia who has never seen an astronomy book before could explain at the dinner table to his whole family, where the location of the planets are, how far they are from each other, what life was like on Mars, and how the earth will be gone in Dec. 21, 2012.

I got it!!! I got it!!! *waves off the other fielders*

That's not actually happening. And you have no experiential or empirical data to support that story. You didn't hear the 7 yr old utter these things, you didn't see the 7 yr old uttering these things in an uncontrolled environment. All of the "facts" cited can be found in textbooks, and the rest....well, we've seen just how accurate most modern "prophets" have been. You read something on a website....thought it was cool....and with utterly zero critical thought, contemplation, or reason....decided it was on the level. It apparently never occurred to your "open mind", that someone possibly prepped the kid and fed answers to him. That alternative simply did not occur to your "open mind".





[edit on 2-5-2008 by MrPenny]

I'm dismissing this as pure ridiculousness. Obviously you've never heard of or seen "Boriska" before.

I want to warn everyone who reads this thread of SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT.......

THE POWERS THAT BE
DO NOT WANT YOU TO READ THIS MATERIAL
AND THEY WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO DISSUADE READERS, DISTORT INFO, AND SUBVERT THE TRUTH WITH ALL KINDS OF LIES AND PROPAGANDA.

They Threatened Robert Morning Sky's Life.....for the Terra Papers....
They FORCED HIM TO TAKE IT DOWN FROM BEING ONLINE......
If you look at some links, they say "PERMISSION HAS BEEN DENIED TO DISTRIBUTE THESE".....

WHICH MEANS ROBERT HIMSELF, ASKED THEM TO BE TAKEN DOWN FROM THE INTERNET!!!!! --- OUT OF FEAR FOR HIS LIFE!!!

Do you think you are going to sit here and be ALLOWED to read this without INTERFERENCE from the universe and AGENTS working for ALIEN POWERS?

JUST KEEP THIS IN MIND, FOLKS.

Peace to all.

Saw 'terra papers' and fondly remember going to see Mr Bob Sky here in England many innocent years ago. Well, seven hours of driving to the event but Mr Sky didn't show, ran into CIA trouble or some other rubbish excuse. The event stank of money making on the back of doom predictions that were right around the corner. Well, Rob Sky knew, cause he's from Hopi stock, n-dreamcatcher things, with sweat lodges n stuff. So I believed and waited........... Still waiting as the gods war for the prize Earth!

Yeah, all very 1990's Bob Sky and the likes can't hide any more behind a few pages of detailed fiction, what with this here medium of The Net!!

Still, it was all very exciting, waiting back then in the 90's

reply to post by conxposer


Conxposer, I have some more questions for u, I still don't understand why these aliens keep us in this stranglehold. Why don't they just let us be, they could still incarnate in us, couldn't they?
What exactly changes for them if we would reach our full potential? And what's gonna happen in 4 years, and if we are that important, what is going to be done to ensure our survival?

Originally posted by conxposer
Obviously you've never heard of or seen "Boriska" before.

Again, your "open mind" is failing you. You really have no idea how "obvious" that is. Clueless in fact.

THE POWERS THAT BE

Have I been promoted? Yay!!!

Do you think you are going to sit here and be ALLOWED to read this without INTERFERENCE from the universe and AGENTS working for ALIEN POWERS?

How does posting a rebuttal to this goofiness affect your ability to continue posting additional "information"? Huh? Try to explain how these words I'm typing right now, justifies the hyperbole in the above quote.

[edit on 2-5-2008 by MrPenny]

Not sure if anyone has stumbled across this site about Mr. Morning Sky.
There are a few tid bits about him that I find interesting.

In 1995 Robert Morning Sky released an audio tape and text transcript called "Alien Sex." In this audio tape Morning Sky states that at the 1995 UFO Congress, held in Mesquite, NV, he was in attendance during two public presentations of material regarding the not-yet-released First Alien Autopsy Footage (FAAF).

Link

You can read the rest for yourself but it all sounds pretty crazy to me.