Deny Ignorance....Lets start with the History Channels UFO Hunters

pretty much everything about that show is funny....especially their attempts at proving stuff.

reply to post by Jeff Riff


you hit that one right on the head...

When I first heard that they were going to do this show I was looking forward to it. I thought that this would be a great opportunity to peak more peoples interest in the subject and that the History Channel would bring some credibility to the scene.

This couldnt be any further from the truth. The editor from UFO Magazine. Come on .. that guy is crazier than a bag of hammers. Airing that he told that guy he thought he was a hybrid. The only thing that is accomplishing is furthering the stereotype of the nut job ufo guy. Hell, Tony the Tiger would be a better rep.

With the amount of money they are sinking into this show like flying them all over the world to talk about vortexes ... come on... they could be spending it on much better things. Would it hurt them to spend some time really digging for hard evidence.

There is just soooo much more they could be doing than the fluff they are, which in my opinion is just hurting the show and will bring it to cancellation..

IMO

reply to post by Tybrus



I couldnt agree with you more! They have all this funding and they are flushing it down the toilet. They are not bringing us quality, they are bringing us boring inconclusive garbage, even disinfo.

Soon enough this show will be off the air, since the REAL UFO community is able to see right through it....and anyone who is new to the field is going to get turned off and not even watch.

the show is doomed to fail anyhow, there is no evidence out there.. so they have to make it up. All the so called experts have all been shown to be nothing but outright fakirs,, and liars..

I have never actually taken the time to watch the show to be honest, mostly because it just sounds real bad and also because of user opinions on ATS...

Another point must be made also, no disrespect to user ufo.reality, but must you start a new post fo every episode?

Why not just one continious thread?

reply to post by Smugallo


Actually it wasnt started for this last episode, however there is another thread out there that is specific to it. I created the thread just because I have seen the show, and in general, it sucks....I touched on another episode in the first post.....Thought we would take it from there.

reply to post by Jeff Riff


What channel is it on? I've got cable, but I live in bonnie Scotland - may not get the same channels as you guys from across the pond!!

They have brought forth some interesting points at times. Examples of these are the interviews of the surviving pilots. However, the reenactments of the air-crafts are humiliating to human intelligence. Some times I think the shows producers did not graduate from elementary school.

Let's hope they can pull the "stick" back before it goes down in flames, because if it does, it will add damage to the subject of UFOs.

reply to post by Smugallo


its on The History Channel. Not sure if you get it out there.

Originally posted by DREAMING MAN

Let's hope they can pull the "stick" back before it goes down in flames, because if it does, it will add damage to the subject of UFOs.

I think they already have done a lot of damage to the subject of UFOs. The general public think that if its on the history channel it must be right and all that bs.

-fm

I really enjoyed the texas episode but this last one was crap, big disappointment.

This show is ridicilous..watched it few times and stopped right there. They are basicly walking in a desert and kicking some sand.."the scientifical evidence nerver before seen for the first time.." yeah right. i could prove more just by sitting on my sofa in my livingroom. And EVERY single episode ends with nothing solved. Off course ! Because they need to keep the keep the interest of the audience alive.. They cant solve anything by searching old planewrecks or kicking sand in roswell. The show is pointles cause this phonomena is so dificult to proove or research. But of course its nice to have ufo stuff on tv.. im just not gonna watch this one anymore.

[edit on 18-4-2008 by Forell]

Good Day Entermemo,

Originally posted by entermemo
I do not understand the hate for this show on this message board.

I'll try to explain: the media in general ranks close to the top in regards to doing the most damage to Ufology. It's a rarity to see the subject addressed in a sober manner . . . without the wink-winks, poke-in-the-ribs or post guffaws and snide jokes.

Consequently. when rumor of a show comes to light that supposedly will tackle the subject in the very least a true journalistic manner, expectations get raised; however. in this instance the producers (Weller / Grossman) have repeatedly offered up episodes that exhibit poor research, shoddy, silly presentation and pseudoscience. This is why you see the distaste regarding this program here in this forum as well as others that discuss Ufology.

This show is not made for people that post on an alien/UFO website.

This show is made for people with a casual interest in the subject.

Most producers would disagree; they realize that their "core audience" are going to be at the very least "UFO enthusiasts" . . . consequently, they would like the show to pass muster with them, you, ATSers etc., losing that is like the kiss of death (and in my view the sooner the better).

I think as a community we would be excited about a show like this because it gets more people interested and more exposure in the mainstream.

The "reason" the media is Ufology's enemy is because it "propagandizes, distorts and or falsifies" the subject matter; a show like "UFO Hunters" can do far more damage because the layperson thinks that the offerings are gospel, and that Ufologists endorse it; I can assure that the consensus among Ufologists is much the same as it is here on ATS.

A very good example of this is/was “Under Cover History: The Real Roswell”; this show was an utter disgrace and was filled with misinformation and lies. Even worse they used Stan Friedman and Dennis Balthaser (unknowingly) to spread this hokum! Neither would have participated had they known the end result.

In the end, "getting more people interested" and then feeding them flapdoodle does Ufology no service (just the opposite) nor the viewer.

What did everyone honestly expect from this show? An interview with an alien? Plus that beam footage from last week was amazing. I haven't watched tonights yet though but I'm sure it will be interesting.

People expected what the producers pitched, "competent, scientific investigation, from a group of like researchers"; instead we got a spin-off of "Ghost Hunters."

I might add that at least with the latter, the producers of "Ghost Hunters" didn't "invent" anything, TAPS and company had been around and doing "their version of research" for years, the research came first, the show second; with "UFO Hunters" "this group was borne for a show" to sell, and research is a secondary concern.

Respectfully,
Frank

I could not agree more about the boring part. Nearly every episode becomes inconclusive and pointless. The Sci-Fi version was better in my opinion.

However, UFO Files is the holy grail of any UFO documentaries series. I love that show.

reply to post by GeeGee


I agree man. UFO files is such a better show they dont even compare. Thankfully they had that on the other night to make up for the garbage.

Good Day Jeff,

Originally posted by Jeff Riff
reply to post by GeeGee

 

I agree man. UFO files is such a better show they dont even compare. Thankfully they had that on the other night to make up for the garbage.

Duane Tudahl who produced some of the better UFO Files episodes is currently working on a new production; he by the way produced the "original UFO Hunters" which was an episode of "UFO Files." Sadly. the current version doesn't live up to the standards (not by a mile) created by Tudahl.

Keep your fingers crossed!

Cheers,
Frank

reply to post by Frank Warren


Hey Frank!

That is good to know. Do you know if this is going to be on the history channel?

I disagree with any notion that the more UFO crap on TV the better. If this kind of junk is shown to anyone with half a brain they are only going to be that much more sure that UFO field is full of fools like them.

They are only hurting the subject and those involved.





[edit on 18-4-2008 by Grey Basket]

reply to post by Jeff Riff


Honestly what did you expect ? This is from the same network that broadcast that propoganda piece about 9-11.

Trace the ownership back and you'll see why its foolhardy to ever watch anything from the so-called "History channel"

They arent interested in the truth. Theyre goal is to keep the status quo by keeping us ignorant