Bush speaks on the possibility of another 9/11

Originally posted by mind is the universe

The world has lost is stability and peace. The Bush administration has not treated an infection of any of the last 8 years of problems. They have made the problems worse and contagious. Bitterness and resentment is adding. War leads to more war, and it's a vicious cycle that needs to stop.

The world has lost it's stability and peace.

I just needed to say that again.

How sad when an overgrown, temper-tantrum throwing, spoiled rotten baby can cause such damage.

Sadder still that he is still there, after all this. Since his crimes have not seemed to be enough to impeach him, I'm sure he will continue to add to them.

So where will all of you be when the US doesn't invade Iran or Pakistan? Its not going to happen. At most we will launch a few missiles and drop a few bombs on Iran's nuclear sites. As for Pakistan, we are already working with their government to get control of remote areas where the known terrorists are not only a threat to us but also to the Pakistani government.





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So here we go again. President Bush is too stupid to do anything and at the same time he planned and lead the 9/11 attack. Mean while he knows how to fly fighter planes, and get two degrees from major universities but at the same time he is too stupid to walk and talk at the same time.

First, he didn't do it alone. Second point, you know how alcoholics or boxers look intelligent at first? Then the effects of alcohol and brain damage hits? Then they look stupid and they are, to a certain degree.

Faking or not, Bush's ``incompetence`` gave him a free pass on everything he did. If he looked aware and evil minded he would be in jail and probably in a war crime court.

I think also that it will be Nuclear...thats the only way Bush will get the chance to invade and raid the entire middle east...I bet that the wheels are in motion for this plan- tensions are at an all time high...Something will without a doubt happen, its just a matter of when.

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First off, the world has never been at peace. There has always been a war going on some where. Second, President Bush will never get impeached because once you go after him then you will have to go after both houses. Not too mention all the world leaders and their governments who went along with the US to invade Iraq. Oh ya, make sure to go after all the intelligence agencies from around the world who thought Saddam had WMDS. And you might as well go after people like me who supported the invasion of Iraq. After all the useless resolutions passed by the UN, someone finally had the brains to get rid Saddam and his peaceful government that never laid a hand on its citizens. Are you going to blame President Bush for all the nasty stuff that Saddam and his son's like to do?

On while we are making impeachment claims. Why don't you go after all the countries that were involved in the Oil for Food program? You know all those great countries like France, Germany, and Russia. Just to name a few.

Great post by the OP!! Like someone else said on this thread at the beginning, it seems like it's all but written in stone that something else will happen to us to push us into a true police state, martial law, the whole thing!! When will it be enough for Americans like us to rise up and do something about it?? I personally don't see it happening....for some reason we are to doscile and we are not united enough to overthrow our "elected" leaders and bring this country back to what it used to be. I would guess that the majority of this country's blind faith in that thing called "Democracy" would lead me to believe that a revolution will never happen. I mean, just look at all the Hilary and Barrack supporters!! Do they even know what they are voting for?? All they see is someone other than GWB and don't care who gets into office. Of course, they fail to remember the crimes and blunders of past democratic presidents so we'll fall into the same trap again....along with a Democratic congress....they can pass anything they want!! Anti-gun laws come to mind but I don't plan on giving mine up!! Good luck all!


Purduegrad05

Originally posted by rjmelter
It is interesting to read that most of you sum a whole group of people up in 1 name and category.

There are terrorists in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran and Iraq

Those countrys do not want to blow us up, they dont even have very well molded governments... BUT there are TERRORISTS ( a small fraction of the population) that DO want to attack the U.S. . That said... If the U.S. does invade those countrys its trying to get rid of terrorists and get retarded dictators out of power so people can vote ( Not saying that it wont in the future be corrupted... as it probably will... but thats life) Honestly people wake up

We are all at war in one way or another.

The U.S. Just happens to have a superiority complex... which in the long run... actually holds up. China is still there... Russia is still there... Germany is still there... India is still there... oh crap... Afghanistan Iraq and Iran are all still there....

The U.S. Wants to PUSH reform. Thats not right but thats what our country has become... and with crazy religions believing that it is good to kill... I bet that is probably why we are in those country trying to put an end to "satanicism" Personally I think the war is needed but has gone on in all the wrong ways possible. Solving a tough problem does have its flaws... and this war on terror has a heck of a lot of them!

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NO, YOU NEED TO WAKE UP.

Again, I feel rather angry that you and other's put it out there, like America is only the "victim" in this and followed by two paragraphs of provking unwanted war. I'm really trying to be paitent here. But my style is to cut the crap and face actual reailty. Absalute Nonsense what you speak of.

It seems to me, that as always, America are never responsible for any of the wars they get involved in or even start.

One thing that cot my attention : You said "America are there to pull out the dictators". Not necessarily true either.

There is corrupt dictators all over Africa, and south America too. are they "reforming" those regions? NO.
Bush Administration are not interested, in taking them out! WHY?
They don't have the rescources America wants! So you could even say in american terms "they are not "terrosists" to America, or well you don't hear them been called "terrosists" anyhoo.

Then the second thing that cot my attention of your post :the superiority complex is almost like now the lame excuse to go rage and war, and that it's ok to fack up the world stability and peace, AND it's ok for America to interfere step on other's soil whenever they wanted. AND it's OK to go to war. AND it's the only answer to the problems.

Has it worked? No it hasn't will America learn this, not yet I'm afraid

You haven't a notion of what it's like in the world outside America.


NO they don't want to attack America. You make it sound like America is the victim again.

I swear to God, I it has to be total paranoia that's plaueging America at the minute.
The Bush Administration, are ultimately the blame for this.
However they are some in the countries in the middle east that have so much resentment of USA, that they feel they have no choice but to retailate against your nation. They do have valid reasons for their anger. They are not dealing with it I must add.

America does not care of who or how many people they blow up in all these countries. In a simple sense America are not respecting these nations by marching in and taking over the show. The minority that retaliate against the USA are the so called "terrosists" that want to take their resentment out on american home soil, in ways that will make an impact. It a two way thing going on here. America are not the victim here.It's a cycle that will not end with Amerca continuing in the warfare fashion at present. September 11 was one lession to America by the middle east. It will keep happening until America one day snaps out of the superority complex.

America are the bully IMO. The superiority complex of America is absurd and destructive.

In America, it's a bit like, oh we are the good guys, they are the bad guys in the east.

While the American leader's give them self praise
They like to use words thats describes the middle east as of fear, terror, warfare, traitors, terrosists, threats and the likes in all of their talks to the media, clever deception also warped onto America and this thread likewise. So they have the excuse to blow countries up for whatever motives. Manipulation much?

Reform, right. Well it ain't working. The world is in total fear and paranoia now, oil prices are all over the graphs, western economies are slumping, relationships between America and the western world are at a all time low. The tension in the middle east is at its worst. America is going through a recession atm, you tell me this is REFORM by going to war again..


I cannot stand this nonsense. Any excuse to war, is the message I'm getting from posters, such as you.

Now tell me this, why do people in all those countries you mentioned say that America is the threat and the terrosist. WHY, why?

I have to ask you, do you watch to much american media?

Bush administration are creating more fear than the so called "terrosists" you speak of

TAKES A DEEP BREATH.

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How about No?!

Originally posted by Vitchilo

Faking or not, Bush's ``incompetence`` gave him a free pass on everything he did. If he looked aware and evil minded he would be in jail and probably in a war crime court.

You say he didn't do it alone but at the same time you blame him for everything "he" did? So what you are trying to say is that Bush is faking stupidity so that he can enact all these invasion plans while being too "incompetent" to make it all happen. It makes no sense. Simply put you have so much hatred for the man that you are willing to believe anything, even using bad logic to prove your point.

Originally posted by EndOfFile
reply to post by ShadowEyes

 

First off, the world has never been at peace. There has always been a war going on some where.

We could all do with peace.

I mean its' so much better isn't it.


Northern Ireland is a clear example of peace bearing fruit, after 500 years of the lack of it.

JackInTheBox: You seem to be one of the most knowledgable person on this forum. Would be a pleasure to talk with you in another setting.

reply to post by mind is the universe


As an American, I don't believe war is the answer for everything. But in the case of Iraq, the UN and its policies were proven to be completely useless. Not to mention that while they were issuing "strong" sanctions against Saddam and Iraq, they were also making back room deals with him. Even so it wasn't just the US which includes President Clinton not just President Bush that felt Iraq was a threat to the region. Obviously the man had plans for Kuwaiti among others and many countries in the middle east were scared of him.

I find it interesting that you ask why the US hasn't dealt with other Dictators and yet you fail to mention that the UN has done basically nothing to stop them. So why aren't you blaming other peace loving countries for not lifting a hand to stop these evil governments.

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reply to post by mind is the universe


Obsoletely I want peace. I truly want a world where my 4 children don't have to worry about terrorism, racism and all the other evil isms. But the reality is still the same. As long as mankind has existed, there has been war.

We as humans have created organizations that were suppose to make the world a better place. But they fail because of human nature. Would I like to see other countries stand up and take a stand against some of the evil dictators in the world? A Big hell ya!! But the reality is that while they might talk a good game, they refuse to truly do anything to solve the problem. In the case of Iraq, it was time to take Saddam down and the UN just wasn't going to do it. They were too busy making money from him.

My question is why do so many countries choose to oppose the US instead of working with us to get rid of these evil governments.

And in case anyone is listening, we still haven't invaded or attacked North Korean. President Bush and company are using 6 party talks to get things worked out, not bombs.

Time for me to get some sleep. Take care all, maybe tomorrow will be a better safer world than today.

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I feel you've misunderstood my point, on why I mentioned other "dictators"

Firstly I brought this up, in my previous reply to another poster, because he stated that America want to get rid of the dictators etc.

Well My only point being, was they are only interested in taking the ones out that have oil and rescources valuable to America. for example Saddam had flowing rivers of oil. They got rid of him, as he was an obstacle that prevented America getting it.

They have no interest In removing the African Dictators, because there is no oil. Therefore my response to the poster America are at war for resources and not for reform.


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Hes basically saying "Get ready folks, I shot them all over in the middle east but were gonna knock down a fewa our towers one more time that way we can boost up my western hillbillie world takeover!"

This is horrible, I knew it and wasnt hoping itd come this early.

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I find it interesting that you ask why the US hasn't dealt with other Dictators and yet you fail to mention that the UN has done basically nothing to stop them.

Everyone knows the UN is a joke. As for the US dealing with dictators, I find it interesting that Bush always likens the Iraq war to WWII. If I recall we did not intervene in WWII till years after the conflict started. Why were we so quick to intervene in the case of Kuwait? Could it be oil? Why doesn't Bush just stand up and say we need the freakin oil so you can continue to go about your lives (unhindered) which will lead to a political victory for me! Why does he blatantly lie and say "we are freeing the Iraqis from oppression blah blah.." I'm not a child, I can take the truth. It's a dog eat dog world and deep down everyone knows it.