Who Believes that GOD is ET?

I believe you have 2 versions of God that's talked about in an interchangable way.

First you have God that encompesses everything. He is the sum of all things.

You then have Yahweh Elohim who is the head of the Elohim and we call them u.f.o.'s and ET today. I believe Yahweh Elohim was manifested in the person of Jesus Christ.

Jesus said in the Bible His Kingdom was not of this world. Today most physicist accept parallel universes. It doesn't take a genius to begin to put 2 and 2 together.

Alot of the mysterious imagry in The Bible makes sense when you take into account the ancients were trying to describe future technology in the language of the day.

So they used terms like clouds, locust with breastplates of iron or chariots with fire.

If you look at locust you can see them trying to describe helicopters. They know that it wasn't an animal because they used breastplates of iron just like Ezekiel described beasts with wheels. They also said the wings on the locusts made loud noise that sounded like chariots. Anyone who has rode in a helicopter or just watch a video of a helicopter knows exactly what he's talking about.

Good post,S & F.I will give you my opinion on this without delving into the "puzzle talk" a I call it of many members that posted before me and of ATS as a whole on issues like these.........the writers,scholars,fighters tend to speak to metallcy and with pseudo responses,so I will give you a logical-but open ended opinion.

Some people say God is ET,or we cant say God created us if ET got here first........wrong(IMO)Everything that has happened,is,and will happen is all part of Gods devine plan and was already molded long ago so to speak.Keep in min that our minds cannot possibly begin to comprehend the limitless and enternal nature of God..........so when I say things like "was"or "long ago"it doest apply to the omnidimensional exsistace of God.........I am just using terms WE can relate to.

I think that evolution happened just like

We are on a journey into the unknown, no one can prove or disprove a god or gods. I feel that their is one god, a supreme being not in flesh form however can assume shape or presence in the form of it's choosing.
The reason I believe this is from childhood upbringing in the Christian faith, we did not go to church on a regular basis, I was just really introduced to this faith to provide the knowledge so I could decide for myself. Also, I have seen others opinions in books & the internet & TV shows. I'm always seeking info to better understand. I'm interested in near death experiences and would like to share one on the internet I found, I think it's on track with the topic.

Mellen-Thomas Benedict's
Near-Death Experiencewww.near-death.com...

I'm new here, hope this type of posting or link is OK, if not please let me know.
I joined seeking opinions & truths, I hope to find more truths.
Thanks


[edit on 11-4-2008 by RemoveTheWool]

reply to post by Malevolent_Aliens
i've always believed God a spirit.

God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

John 4:24

It is my opinion that God is a convenient creation that man has been sold on by ETs. This plan to have us believe in a God has many reasons to it. Some with good consequences (family units, community service, helping others, humility) and some with Bad (wars, mass manipulation, devisiveness).

There are most likely many higher levels to existence to ours and some of the creatures on these higher levels would appear to us as Gods. But they are really just part of the diverse life spread out over the universe. If their technology is sufficiently advanced, our perception of them would be Godlike, but it's just advanced tech.

I believe the ETs assigned to watch/guide/manipulate the earth come in a good grouping and evil grouping. Most of these are probably much more advanced than us, but in the overall scheme of the universe probably aren't that advanced. What I mean is that there are most likely really high up beings beyond all the normal creatures in/on and around this earth. The levels are most likely wide and many.

Planting the idea of God is meant to placate the masses with reasons for living and to have us stop looking for answers and to accept the answers being provided. But I could be completely full of it.....it wouldn't be the first time.

Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
Yes of course I guess I was trying to get a little further than that, many believe that ET's either created us or helped us get to where we are today by either altering our DNA or providing us with technology and watching over our development and progression.

Why would any limitless, incomprehensible, multi-dimensional entity bother with such a thing? It needs a hobby?

Mal...

The subject of ET's and God has troubled many a religion, since the bible (and other so-called 'holy books') do not make any mention of other life beyond our Earth. Most religions discount the possibility of intelligent beings in other galaxies simply because "God" didn't tell us.

I believe in both.

I agree with other members, that God, not being from this planet, could be considered Extra-Terrestrial, but I think that somewhat diminishes the spirit of both terms.

I do not subscribe to the notion that aliens are angels, or that God sits in the mother ship waiting to push the "Rapture" button at his whim. There is, IMO, room for both God and ET's to co-exist in the same realm.

Consequently, since God created the heavens, and the Earth, He is their maker too.

reply to post by Malevolent_Aliens


I don't think ET's are God, but I could see how they could be perceived as angels or Gods to us (if they exist). God is a force, the central funrace that burns and creates, while seeming mechanized is originator of thought, perception, emotion. Gives rise to all that is possible and all things tap into as a system of energy exchange. ET's that may exist are more advanced and equipped to handle higher levels of vibration...

Originally posted by Anti-Tyrant

Unfortunately, all the reasons you listed are materialistic in nature.

Do you think it's impossible for there to be a 'spiritual' calling towards one religion or the other?

No I don't, but, define "spiritual calling"? It's again, a need to grasp on to something, to have your purpose defined in some way, again, I contribute it to part of our "program".

If you do, then do you think it's impossible for there to be a non-physical 'calling' (like E.S.P) towards a higher entity, such as an E.T?

Of course I don't. Since our beginings we had this affinity towards worshipping something. Back in those days it was fire, thunder.
Thesedays, it's little grey men or simply aliens, "higher beings" that are supposed to guide us toward bettering ourselves.

My point is, every man needs to believe in something. It's the core of our mental/moral code. Without belief, there is no purpose. Without purpose there is no will to put an effort. Without effort there is no advancement ie. progress.
As such we would be no different then a peace of rock lying on the desert.

My belief now after the things I have experienced is this:

I believe the extremely tall Grey's known as the Elders are our Creator's. In past history they came in there ships from the skies with the bright white light and the peoples called them Gods. (Heaven long ago meant from the skies)

I believe the Creator's created mixtures of many things and one mixture became the human being. There are so many mixtured beings/creations in this massive Universe.

When a certain sector is going to come into difficulty the Elders will choose a being(s) and ask if they would like to help and if that being agrees then the Elders can tranfer that soul being to where it is needed.

I'll leave it at that.

Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
A. Who Believes that GOD is ET and why?

B. Who Believes that GOD is not ET and why?

C. Who Believes there is no GOD only more advanced ETI and why?

D. Who Believes that ET's created us but are not GODS and why?

A) I believe that it is feasible, or 'possible, but I do not advocate it or think it to probably be the case. Why? Because the scriptures of the Jews and Christians, as well as the localized legends in various ancient cultures, specifically the Sumerian culture, leads me to keep the door open to such a possibility. This is because there is indeed some seemingly irrefutable evidence to back up the case of God being an alien, an ET.

B) I believe that God is not an extra terrestrial, at least in the way we think of them. He does not have a physical body, in other words. I believe this because a universe has to exist for aliens to develop, then subsequently create us on Earth. Therefore, someone/something had to create the universe, and the big bang theory doesn't cut it for me.

C) This might be shocking to some coming from me. I accept the possibility that maybe, just maybe, God doesn't exist, there's no afterlife, there's no such thing as a spirit or soul, no such thing as magic or powers that defy the understanding of science. I find it extremely unlikely, but I cannot completely exclude the notion altogether. I guess this is what holds me back from being a bonafied "True Believer".

D) I believe it is possible ET's created man, but are not the character spoken of in the Old & New Testaments, and the Koran as YHWH, Allah, etc. In fact, I believe this over the concept of aliens = God any day.

Good post,S & F.I will give you my opinion on this without delving into the "puzzle talk" a I call it of many members that posted before me and of ATS as a whole on issues like these.........the writers,scholars,fighters tend to speak to metallcy and with pseudo responses,so I will give you a logical-but open ended opinion.

Some people say God is ET,or we cant say God created us if ET got here first........wrong(IMO)Everything that has happened,is,and will happen is all part of Gods devine plan and was already molded long ago so to speak.Keep in min that our minds cannot possibly begin to comprehend the limitless and enternal nature of God..........so when I say things like "was"or "long ago"it doest apply to the omnidimensional exsistance of God.........I am just using terms WE can relate to.

I think that evolution happened just like it is said by scientists-but with God overlooking and behind everything that happened(he is the reason why human life developed).If ET messed with us in the past with genetics or something like that than I think that was also part of Gods plan and God knew it would happen.Do I believe there are ETs out there much smarter than us?Yes I do,and Im sure they are lot smarter-some species are smarter than the "greys"(if they exsist)Im sure,and then some are just as smart as us or even less smart than us.Now my opinion of what God "is" is much different than my "official"religion(Catholic)and many others,but agrees with some and quantum physics to an extent.


IMO God is a all knowing,all powerful "force" that is part of everything(living and non-living natrual things).He is timless,omnidimensional,omnipotent,omnipresent,and infinite.Humans,ETs,stars,trees,anything natrual-we(everything,lets not just think of ourselfs here) are a part of him,he is a part of us.I do not believe God is some old guy with a grey beard in Heaven,thats just chilish,primitive,and ridiculous IMO.He is not flesh-but can take flesh form-he can take anyform that there ever was,is,and will be in the entirety of exsistance.I belive that is exactly what Jesus Christ was(and other messiahs on other planets-if they exsist),the physical,human form manifestation of God.That is generally agreed upon in Chritain religions-but with a few variations of it that I will not delve into here.I think that there can be and is other,lesser entities that possess a high spirutal understanding and power-but nothing that compares to God,they just are more mature and closer to God-although some or some people may think they themselves are God(s).As far as Satan and Hell I think he(Satan) is one example of my last statement-a spirutally andvanced being who tried to be God.I also think that Hell is the result of the natrual balance of all things in exsistance,the opposite of Heaven.....evil the opposite of good......dark the opposite of light,etc.I would compare it to Yin and Yang(Yin-Yang)......so I guess my belief has aspects of all religions and some original parts as well.Now as far as what I think Heaven and Hell is,are,or are at-They are simply other dimensional planes of exsistance..........now I have heard of all this "there are 12 dimensions","there are 10 dimensions"ect.I dont know how many there are,but thats what they are.......different vibrational frequencies so to speak.As far as how God was created or if he will die or end,that gets tricky,it is almost to much for my febal human mind to grasp,almost.So my current best guess(theroy)I will not go into because it is incomplete and I do not as yet understand it,but when(if)I do you can bet I will share it with you all here on ATS

So to summerize........
1.)I think God is a omniexsistant force
2.)I think there is God and Jesus Christ(For our planets messiha)......thats it,no "Holy Trinity"like my "official"religion believes.They claim one God but sit there and preach about "3"different parts of God.....sounds like Polygamy to me.
3.)I think God has overseen and allowed EVERYTHING that has happened in the Universe(us included)
4.)I think all life forms have an enternal connection to God.
5.)I think "good"and"bad"(Heaven and Hell) are simply the resuly of a natrually occuring balance in exsistance.
6.)I think Heaven and Hell are another dimensional plane of exsistance.


Note***To anyone who will reply challenging my beliefs or saying"your wrong,not true"etc.............THESE ARE MY BELIEFS,IN NO WAY AM I SAYING THEY ARE TRUE,AND I HAVE NO PROOF TO BACK UP ANY OF THESE CLAIMS OTHER THAN WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW.
So I hope you all find my response enlightening.

-JKrog

I think it truly comes down to time travel. If time travel is possible then its only a question of evolution. As once a species has the capability of time travel it thus has the potential to expand exponentially and categorically throughout the universe. Since time would be irrelative to the species capabilites of space exploration, as whether a ship was traveling 1 mile/hr or 100,000/hr its not relevant provided that the criogenic capabilities of the species would allow it to survive the projected time in the projected ship for the projected time, and transported farther back in time to a specific point for it to evole from the original species at the same time as the original species develop.

This is all theoretical, as it is irrelevant as to what is God as God is what is. Simply put, we are here and as proof of a God we exist, however our life span is inconsistant with the ability to truly see God as we don't control time, time controls us. Until we are masters of time, then we can neither see, nor feel God. Additionally, once we are masters of time, then one can realize that in essence we are God. We simply do not know currently what or who we are, and until we know this, then we can not know what God is.

Cheers,

Camain

Originally posted by Anti-Tyrant
reply to post by Breadfan

 

Unfortunately, all the reasons you listed are materialistic in nature.

Do you think it's impossible for there to be a 'spiritual' calling towards one religion or the other?

If you do, then do you think it's impossible for there to be a non-physical 'calling' (like E.S.P) towards a higher entity, such as an E.T?

Do you have a dislike of "Breadfan" from some previous experience?I just ask cause how can you question and try to debunk or argue with someones own personal beliefs?Its ironic your SN is "antityrant"but you are persecuting and trying to ask someone to "factually"back-up their beliefs..........you Sir sound like a tyrant.You cannot possibly argue the facts of someones own beliefs and opinions of religion-Do you have some type of proof of what you think is true?Have you personally asked God,and can you prove it?Come on now-do you see what Im saying???Lets try to keep this thread civil-okay?

reply to post by observe50


I would be careful to trust whatever these creatures told you,Greys cannot be trusted.IMO

I am not arguing your beliefs but simply waring you to be careful of who(what)you trust.

Originally posted by camain
I think it truly comes down to time travel.

Maybe not time travel, as such, but a result of the quality of spacetime itself. We like to think of spacetime as a kind of solid road that we exist in an move along. But it's probably actually more like a sponge, with flexibility and holes that connect various parts of itself to other parts in ways we can't see.



In that way, we may constantly be influenced and contacted by things that to us appear to only exist in the distant future or past. And this flow of material and information is a normal, constant thing.

So there's really no requirement for a "creator god," since a lot (or enough) of reality and things in the universe slide through and around time that there essentially was no "creation" per se. And the aliens and Bigfoots and sea monsters we sometimes encounter are just bits and pieces of realities and areas of spacetime that are from the past or future and are just passing through our own.

Or something like that.

[edit on 11-4-2008 by Nohup]

jk,

How do I put this in a correct wording? From the things I have been taught by the Creators and the reason they had to come back here was because Grey beings interferred here when they were not to do so.

You must understand this:

There are "many different Grey's" and just because a group of Grey's interferred it doesn't make all Grey's bad. How many groups of humans do bad things, does this make all humans bad?

Nasca is a directional locator for the different species and the symbols symbolize which species are here or frequent this Planet, hmmmmmm even they have vacation homes j/k about the vacation home that is.

reply to post by observe50


Would you u2u me with some info on the Nazca lines and their meaning,and more info about the Greys?

Well, in response to the original post I'd have to answer: "E. I don't know" because I'm only human and I believe answers to questions like these are beyond the scope of our knowledge. While we're living out our lives in this particular reality we've created for ourselves the answers will be impossible to obtain.

However, if forced to give an answer out of the choices you've provided I would have to go with D. The technology of an advanced civilization to us would probably be indistinguishable from magic. So I can see why ancient man would have thought they were interacting with "God".

disclaimer: I'm not 100% discounting the notion of a "higher power" or the possibility that entities that could be called "Gods" exist. Yet, I think if they DO exist there is absolutely no chance of these entities or powers interacting personally with a human.

reply to post by observe50

disclaimer: I'm not 100% discounting the notion of a "higher power" or the possibility that entities that could be called "Gods" exist. Yet, I think if they DO exist there is absolutely no chance of these entities or powers interacting personally with a human.

Well what exactly is the percentage that a higher power does or doesnt exsist???

Also who is that girl in your avatar?Shes hot!!!lol