Who Believes that GOD is ET?

A. Who Believes that GOD is ET and why?

B. Who Believes that GOD is not ET and why?

C. Who Believes there is no GOD only more advanced ETI and why?

D. Who Believes that ET's created us but are not GODS and why?


It's an interesting topic for me so I hope to get some of your feedback on what you think about GOD in relationship to Extraterrestrials.

I realize that not everyone believes in a GOD and not everyone believes in the existence of ET's but any and all opinions, comments, thoughts or suggestions are much appreciated!

Thanks
Colleen Johnston








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Hi Colleen, I recommend watching the video on youtube Called: UFOs Angels and God/s. It had me hooked for the whole documentary.

Depends on what you're calling "God."

If you choose to define God as an incomprehensible, limitless, extratemporal, multi-dimensional conscious entity, then it can't really be called ET or non-ET, since it doesn't exactly exist in either of those narrowly-defined categories.

If you define God as a white-bearded grandpa who lives with angels in the clouds and Heaven, where your Aunt Agnes went when she died, then I guess you could call him ET, since Heaven is not technically Earth.

Well taking into consideration religion belief that is a supreme being called God by bible standards he is not from this earth yes I have to agree that base on that it can be called ET

Hi Kdial1,

I appreciate the tip, will check the video out!

Thanks

"Well taking into consideration religion belief that is a supreme being called God by bible standards he is not from this earth yes I have to agree that base on that it can be called ET"

Yes of course I guess I was trying to get a little further than that, many believe that ET's either created us or helped us get to where we are today by either altering our DNA or providing us with technology and watching over our development and progression.

Hoping to dig a little deeper into the subject here.

Apprecate the feedback!

Thanks

I really, really doubt it, but I guess God could possibly be responsible for some UFOs. But no. ETs are not God. ETs are ETs. If any are controlled by God or something, then well... they aren't really ETs. (Unless you want to get really technical and say any being from another place is an ET)

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"Depends on what you're calling "God."

If you choose to define God as an incomprehensible, limitless, extratemporal, multi-dimensional conscious entity, then it can't really be called ET or non-ET, since it doesn't exactly exist in either of those narrowly-defined categories.

If you define God as a white-bearded grandpa who lives with angels in the clouds and Heaven, where your Aunt Agnes went when she died, then I guess you could call him ET, since Heaven is not technically Earth"

Appreiate the feedback!

Nohup,

So what do you believe? Do you believe that extraterrestrials created this world and all life on it and all religions are just for the benefit of mankind basically to keep order on earth?

OR

Just curious!
Thanks

I seem to recall a Star Trek description of god several years ago. I'm not sure what Pickard said though. I think it was something like the collective consciousness and knowledge of the universe. The Borg seemed to be searching for this also.
For all we know a godlike sytem of storing all of this acquired information is somewhere in the universe and has been in operation for thousands if not millions of years. If we can imagine these possibilities at this point in our development, than it should be even more likely it already exists.

Remember Hal? Other sci-fi movies such Lawnmower Man suggest a human ghost in a computer matrix.

Our species may be allowed to exist due to our imagination and other senses. Much like we use other species here to experiment on. Labrats with labrats? Mice and men?

Are we an experiment in consequential behavior?

Will there be a time when the experiment ends or is reset for another species and system? God only knows.

[edit on 10-4-2008 by aleon1018]

Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
Hi Kdial1,

I appreciate the tip, will check the video out!

Thanks

Here is the links for you.

part 1

part 2

part 3

This is a great Video!!!

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this is not a one line post. egyptians built the gaza pyramids my ass!

Originally posted by BASSPLYR
Yo!!!! right here!!!!


this is not a one line post. egyptians built the gaza pyramids my ass!

What are you talking about?

What does this have to do with the OP?

*we* really are in a way 'molecular pieces' of God growing and expanding Itself. I believe that the +purpose+ of all of this is for the every expanding consciousness/growth/perfection that we commonly refer to as GOD. My belief is that EVERYTHING aside from the consciousness(GOD) is a 'tool' for the purpose of molding the 'immature' energy/soul/consciousness(GOD) that we are experiencing (our bodies, our jobs, our situations, - - everything is a 'tool'). The 'trick' is to not 'fall in love' with the tools that we are using (false GODs) - - whether that be money, vanity, power, food, a religious belief, etc..... For example, there's a story of a man who need to continue on his journey to get to his goal. Along the way, he comes to a river that he needs to cross. So, he gets in a boat to cross the river. But instead of getting off of the boat once he crosses the river to continue on with his journey, he finds that he fell in love with the boat, and is 'stuck'. He is unable to move on. Likewise, we need to be careful to recognize that all of the forms are not what it's all about - - they are simply the mechanisms which are in place to aid in the growth of consciousness(GOD). We need to be careful not to 'fall in love with the boat', and to recognize that truth(GOD) can only be found in the 'formless'

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That was a good video. I want to see thew whole DVD on thier website.

Anyway, No One really knows exactly what god is..

But he has to be a higher being than that he who have created the Nephilim.

And the Nephilim who created the hybrid humans, well they were all supposed to be washed away with the flood i think.

But if that plan was in place 2 or 3 Thousand years ago, well you would think that some form of that plan still has to be in place today,.

IMO we [HUMANS] are almost like a mutt species. It appears all of our bloodlines have been tampered with when u consider all of the different races of Homo Sapiens.

Basically what i think i have come to believe whoever this God is that created us even if it is an ET race, which it would more or less qualify as being ET since it wasn't from this planet, is either of 2 things.

1 - It could be the straight up GOD that actually created the human race. This is the thing whom we all seek, and is worthy of our worship because he is the one true god.

2- ETs have beat the One True God to this planet and tampered with what has already been put in place here by GOD .In this case i would have to say YES ETs created man. And with the creation of man they also created a plan to orchestrate history (which could be close to gods plans,) because it is possible that these Fallen angels knew god and some of his plan. And they basically do the Devils work on Earth.

In either scenario man IS created by ETs. But in the first sense we are talking about GOD who is an ET becuase he is not from Earth.
And in the second senario it would be actual ETs that have evolved faster than us and came here and created a false reailty for us.

But we must remember who the true god is and not fall for no BS plan from ETs who want to be thier own sort of gods. The one who deserves to be called GOD must have created the Earth AND the Universe in all its glory.

This is ridiculous, it's not as if i can turn around and say "He's not an E.T - he's a terrestrial organism!".

The question is flawed.

Btw, before you get your panties in a twist, i'm saying that he most definately is.

But that's the thing - he cannot be anything else, even if he exists in a multi-dimensional warp he is still an E.T, no matter how you look at it.

Here is my brave take on this issue and I will go as far as not to include the "in my opinion" fail-safe:

God is something most of us on this planet not have to believe in, but WANT to believe in. The reasons for this are, for example:

1) We have a good life and God is the one, among other things, to be thankful to

2) We have a difficult/lousy life and God is generally, the one to be blamed for

3) We are bored teenagers and have to believe in God for he will fix the bad grades, shut the parents up or simply, helps us out in our quest to charm a girlfriend/boyfriend.

4) A member of familly or a close friend has passed away. In our helpless attempts to comprehend how can such a young, good person die, we turn to..God, for help and explanation.

God. Hmm..

I believe in God but in all honesty and in this current moment of mental soberness of mine, I think "God" is nothing more but a part of our..program.
It is there to work together with our moral code or, what we believe to be morally acceptable. It is there to justify our good deeds and punish us for evil doings or simply, failures.

We need "God" as sometimes, logic fails to assist us in moments when we're not capable of incorporating it in our current situation.

A computer operating system always reboots when encountering a serious error, an obstacle, a virus or simply as a result of human error.

Unlike Windows, in the moments of extreme temptations when we're brought down to our primal selves, "God" is the only thing that could keep us from "rebooting".

God is not an alien. That's what I claim with full certainty. Even if aliens put us here, that doesn't change a thing.

Our fathers seed has made our mothers inpregnated and give us birth yet, we don't look at our parents as Gods, though they may be fairly close to that definition as the fammily IS most of the time our foundation which we hold on to in good or most often, bad times.

God?

God, is a three-letter word that has to be there for without it, our program would be inoperable or at best, prone to crashes.

Now, what about people who don't believe in God? There are no such people on this planet. They may not believe in "God allmighty", but they do believe in either themselves, money, Zen philosophy, healthy morning sex etc.

God? I say, a "Belief" would be the same. Do you believe in belief? Do you h ave a belief? Of course you do.

That's what God is.

I don't believe in a creator but I suppose it is possible our evolution was scripted by extraterrestrials.
It sure would explain a lot.

reply to post by Breadfan


Unfortunately, all the reasons you listed are materialistic in nature.

Do you think it's impossible for there to be a 'spiritual' calling towards one religion or the other?

If you do, then do you think it's impossible for there to be a non-physical 'calling' (like E.S.P) towards a higher entity, such as an E.T?

reply to post by Malevolent_Aliens


What an incredibly complex question.

This goes far beyond the simple clarification of what we term "god", and starts to delve into personal belief and the accepted paradigms of the divine. You'll get no definitive answer, obviously, but individual responses that'll encompass every facet of faith, whether scientific or supernatural. Because of that, be prepared for vociferous, well thought out opinions mixing with incoherent, baseless ramblings.

After all, you're asking if religion, in all forms, are compatible...

Is God ET?

This is my opinion...

Setting aside all emotional and spiritual differences of how we identify the divine allows us to ask a question of ourselves: can you permit yourself to see god all around you?

Some will say yes joyously, and do so through solid trust in their particular creed, even if they don't understand their own teachings entirely. They've heard the revealed knowledge of wise men, and the messages of belonging and promise contained within those words imparted upon them a little measure of testament, therefore it's true.

Others will scream no, and back up their arguement with hard facts and weighty research done by others, even if they don't understand the data entirely. But it must be true, because important, learned people whom we have to trust because they further our knowledge say so.

What they're both doing is ignoring the simple fact that we're part of an existence far stranger than anything we can, or ever will, imagine. To try and cope with such profound oddness, to try and make some sense of it all, we have created our own explanations and compartmentalized observations and experiences into understandable, coherent forms that individually solve the problem nicely. For most, that is.

How did I answer? I said yes. But I fit into neither camp.

Religion is a much evolved form of the interpretation of terrifying natural events and unexplainable mysteries that were once far beyond our comprehension.
Some of our antecedents, seeing a powerful stage upon which to voice emerging concepts, focused this fear towards an indentifiable, though no less incredible, source. Man knowlingly created the gods to explain nature.

What we didn't realise, however, was that we'd almost hit the nail on the head and sure enough science followed rapidly as the result of our enquiring minds sensing that there was much more beyond even mystical clarifications.

Now, we're doing the same when we witness UFOs and look upon them with the same eyes as our earliest ancestors would have fire, birth and death.

We can't comprehend these lights in the skies fully and become frightened because they're beyond our control. Looking on their conveyances with wonder, we surmise as to the extent of their capabilities, how far advanced they are, what miracles they can perform.
We project personas onto them, call them angel and demon, saviour and conqueror. We're still, after all these millenia, trying to explain the unexpalinable as best we can given limited understanding.

And once again, the cycle continues...

Some proffess intimate knowledge of these visitors' intentions, and have gained many loyal followers. How many threads on ATS allude to beatific alien's "channelled" messages of love. Others tell of evil reptillians who plot to enslave Earth. Scholarly discourses abound as to the alien's technology, each advocating intense familiarity with the inbelievable.

Yet, though drowning in what may be psuedo-info, we ignore the obvious; until they land enmass, step up to the awaiting forest of microphones and explain themselves, we simply don't know what, or who, they are.

But we do know this: at this very moment they are part of our existence, and uncomfortable as that is, we have to recognize that as part of our weird Universe.

But how does it relate to God?

The more we delve into physics, the deeper the subject becomes. Einstein coined the phrase "spooky at a distance" to descibe quantum entanglement. This was patently designed to diffuse more than to explain. Yet, the implication is there. Even the mightiest men of science can bear witness to the strangeness of life, and Albert knew how important it was to recognise it. He said:

The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed.

and again, his opinion as to this high-strangeness's provenance was clear:

My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind.

Einstein saw that God is in the detail.

Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.

How does this apply to the question posed in the opening post?

Giving a positive answer to my question is not neccesarily an admission of belief, but is an admission that it's possible to open the mind to the reality that the material world we inhabit is not as "nuts and bolts" as we think.

To truly participate in this theatre of life, to play our parts well and therefore pay due homage to our ancestors' struggles, which resulted in the world we now inhabit, we have to accept that there is more to life, more to the idea of creation, than we know.

That includes all living things.

Is ET God?

No, but they may well be closer to Him than we are.