WTC 7 Serious Proof of Controlled Demoltions

Originally posted by nicepants

Explosions occurred in WTC 7 before either of the twin towers had collapsed.

Are CD explosives the only thing that could create the sound of an explosion?

I know you probably don't realize this, but the sound is actually what does the damage in the case of an explosive. Explosives are just massive overpressures. Sound is also a product of pressure waves in the air that your ear is designed to detect on a range of wavelengths.

So if it really sounds like an explosive, it's automatically in the same boat as an explosive in terms of being able to cause major damage. And, what do you know!, the same testimony indicates serious damage to the lobby area of WTC7.


All you're trying to deny, is that this could have happened intentionally, and taking everything else into account, it probably did.

[edit on 9-4-2008 by bsbray11]

Originally posted by nicepants
Your source is the Alex Jones Show? Why am I not surprised.

Well, if the MSM wouldn't be ignoring it, maybe his interview would be there. I'm curious as to why his interview is less credible just because it is from the Alex Jones show? Do you think it would change if he was interviewed by FAUX news?

This guy's story isn't corroborated by anyone. Are his words alone how you concluded that there were explosions in WTC7 prior to either tower collapsing?

Are you calling him a liar? And yes, there is corroboration but you guys won't buy it anyway.

Is it not possible the "explosion" sounds were the result of the collapsing penthouse making it's way through the interior of the building? It is? Ok. Didn't the news report that the building was in danger of collapse before it actually collapsed? They did? ok. Seriously guys, this is a stretch...
I'm open to alot of things. I'm still not entirely convinced that we didn't shoot down Flight 93. But this controlled demo thing is bologna.

Originally posted by _Del_
Didn't the news report that the building was in danger of collapse before it actually collapsed?

Actually, some reported that it did collapse before it collapsed.

I'm also open to alot of things.

Except believing that asymmetric fire and asymmetric damage causes buildings to fail symmetrically.

Originally posted by Griff

Originally posted by nicepants
Your source is the Alex Jones Show? Why am I not surprised.

Well, if the MSM wouldn't be ignoring it, maybe his interview would be there. I'm curious as to why his interview is less credible just because it is from the Alex Jones show? Do you think it would change if he was interviewed by FAUX news?

Alex Jones has zero credibility. He says the FDNY is guilty for crying out loud! Any legitimate media source would jump on this story if there was anything to it.

Originally posted by Griff

This guy's story isn't corroborated by anyone. Are his words alone how you concluded that there were explosions in WTC7 prior to either tower collapsing?

Are you calling him a liar? And yes, there is corroboration but you guys won't buy it anyway.

There isn't anything corroborating his claims except Alex Jones. I'm not calling him a liar, I'm saying there's nothing that proves that what he states is correct.

Originally posted by nicepants

Originally posted by Griff
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Here's his own words.

youtube.com...

Your source is the Alex Jones Show? Why am I not surprised.

This guy's story isn't corroborated by anyone. Are his words alone how you concluded that there were explosions in WTC7 prior to either tower collapsing?

NO, Jones was the medium. The actual source was Jennings himself. Jennings was there that morning!

Originally posted by Griff
Actually, some reported that it did collapse before it collapsed.

I'm also open to alot of things.

Except believing that asymmetric fire and asymmetric damage causes buildings to fail symmetrically.

Did you see the rest of my post, or are you ignoring it?

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There was nothing else in your post other than your opinion. I'm done arguing over opinions on here.

Originally posted by talisman

Originally posted by nicepants

Originally posted by Griff
reply to post by nicepants

 

Here's his own words.

youtube.com...

Your source is the Alex Jones Show? Why am I not surprised.

This guy's story isn't corroborated by anyone. Are his words alone how you concluded that there were explosions in WTC7 prior to either tower collapsing?

NO, Jones was the medium. The actual source was Jennings himself. Jennings was there that morning!

It was the Alex Jones Show. Credibility: Zero.
But I'll believe Jennings if he can provide anything that backs up his claims and proves that he wasn't just mistaken about what happened.

[edit on 9-4-2008 by nicepants]

I don't know how many of you spent time in Manhatten (I did, I was a bike messenger for a little over a year in Lower Manhatten in my early 20's)

Let me tell you, the pictures, and videos do NOT do the buildings justice.

The size, the closeness to eachother.

I've seen alot of people when first coming out of the subway near the WTC, they stop in thier tracks, knees buckle, they get dizzy, and claustrophobic.

In reguards to 7, the buildings surrounding the N and S side (i believe thats right) are in such close proximity. NYC streets, not AVE. But streets like I'm talking about (thats if I got my geopraprical positioning correct, most likely I don't).

Either way the two streets running along either side of the solomon Building are no bigger than the street your house sits on, and the 47 story Skyscraper is no further from you than your across the street neighbors house. Front yards included.

To think a near 500 foot building could fall that close and no obliterate everything withing a 2 block(street) radius , equals Controlled Demolition.

I don't even need to go to the other mound of evidence that points to this.

On a side note:

Those of you that are thinking how a CD company would take down a building are not useing your heads. This is an inside job perputrated by groups inside certain governments.

Don't you think they have more advanced, harder to detect ways of CD'ing buildings of this size. I use the term mini-nukes loosely. That basically to me is explosives that the criminals have that we don't even know exist, that only a dozen or 2 dozens well placed, well timed (detonate on plane impact) explosives such as this would be needed.

As far as how could they do this without people working in the building noticing. Again there were unprecedented(sp?) power downs, and construction leading up weeks prior to 9/11.

Many people heard explosions after the planes hit as well, up to 2 even three more big explosions AFTER the planes had hit. Quite a few reported hearing rapid explosions like gunfire or a firecracker belt but Louder. But of course after 9/11 these witnesses were never talked to again by the MSM.

Now we have Bill Mahyer(sp?) who was pro-war from the get -go, as was most of America, because we we're lied to and tricked. Now we have him telling us how much money we're spending over there, and how he wan'ts out, haha.

I wish I had the video of that one African American, she said to the house that we should all just SLOW DOWN and look at things, patiently, and not have a knee-jerk reaction. I forget her exact words, but she was the only one to vote againt going to war in Iraq when this vote was held (it was like within 1 week of the attacks).

Now This is the type of person, and people we need running this government. Darn I wish I knew her name, and had that video clip. It must have been hard as heck for her to say that, and vote no, we all wanted revenge, but this woman had enough foresite not to jump the gun, and try to think things through, before acting.

But now we're in a Quagmire- "Giggity-giggity-giggity-goo!"

"It was the Alex Jones Show. Credibility: Zero." -nicepants

hah

Alex Jones Has more credibility in his little finger than all of the government RUN , MSM stations all mashed together....(hmmm MSM all MASHED together into a soup), what a pleseant thought.

Originally posted by nicepants
It was the Alex Jones Show. Credibility: Zero.
But I'll believe Jennings if he can provide anything that backs up his claims and proves that he wasn't just mistaken about what happened.

How about first responders in their own words?

graphics8.nytimes.com...

Here are some interesting snippits from some of them. Granted, some may be taken out of context (it is after all a conspiracy site :@@ , but, there's too many that say there were secondary explosions. Even one chief saying he lost many men in one of them. Do exploding hairspray cans do that kind of damage?

www.whatreallyhappened.com...

www.whatreallyhappened.com...

Granted, I haven't specifically found one of WTC 7 as of yet, but I'd say, there's corroboration in this enough.

But, I'm sure I'll be asked for specific corroboration and physical evidence of explosives. Again.

Originally posted by Griff

Originally posted by nicepants
It was the Alex Jones Show. Credibility: Zero.
But I'll believe Jennings if he can provide anything that backs up his claims and proves that he wasn't just mistaken about what happened.

How about first responders in their own words?

graphics8.nytimes.com...

Here are some interesting snippits from some of them. Granted, some may be taken out of context (it is after all a conspiracy site

:@@

, but, there's too many that say there were secondary explosions. Even one chief saying he lost many men in one of them. Do exploding hairspray cans do that kind of damage?

But, I'm sure I'll be asked for specific corroboration and physical evidence of explosives. Again.

I never said it was hairspray cans. I said a lot of things can go "boom" in a large fire. Regardless...we have videos of the collapse, no detonations going off.

Originally posted by Nola213
"It was the Alex Jones Show. Credibility: Zero." -nicepants

hah

Alex Jones Has more credibility in his little finger than all of the government RUN , MSM stations all mashed together....(hmmm MSM all MASHED together into a soup), what a pleseant thought.

haha...so you must agree with him that the FDNY was involved in the 9/11 conspiracy?

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By the timing of your response, I can gather you didn't take the time to even peruse them. But, just brushed it off with slight of hand. "These are not the droids you're looking for". Well, I'm not simple minded and your jedi tricks will not work.

I mean that as a joke. Please take it as such.

Jenning's in his own words....


Also on September 11th I do recall a news report of the lobby of WTC 7 being 'gutted' out before the collapse of both towers.

So credibility: 99%

[edit on 9-4-2008 by IvanZana]

still no proof of a controlled demoltion. all of the evidence points towards a global collapse due to damage caused by WTC1 falling into it.

and regarding one guy yesterday asking why WTC2 didnt damage WTC1 in the same manner, look at the first in this link and you will see why, it is not directly across from WTC1, as WTC1 is from WTC7.

also, read this and it explains the most likely scenario for collapse, given by REAL STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS.


www.structuremag.org...

all you have to do is provide video of the WTC7 with demolition sounds being heard. alas, no demolition sounds exist.

THIS IS WHAT A DEMOLITION SOUNDS LIKE:
www.liveleak.com...

Originally posted by Nola213
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In reguards to 7, the buildings surrounding the N and S side (i believe thats right) are in such close proximity. NYC streets, not AVE. But streets like I'm talking about (thats if I got my geopraprical positioning correct, most likely I don't).

Either way the two streets running along either side of the solomon Building are no bigger than the street your house sits on, and the 47 story Skyscraper is no further from you than your across the street neighbors house. Front yards included.

To think a near 500 foot building could fall that close and no obliterate everything withing a 2 block(street) radius , equals Controlled Demolition.

I don't even need to go to the other mound of evidence that points to this.

On a side note:

Those of you that are thinking how a CD company would take down a building are not useing your heads. This is an inside job perputrated by groups inside certain governments.

Your bang on. Exactly.

Excellent post.

The rubble pile is enough proof to prove it was controlled demo.

I always get a chuckle of the debunkers alice in wonder land logic when it comes to trying to cover up the facts. Insane rational. Also treasonous!

[edit on 9-4-2008 by IvanZana]

Originally posted by IvanZana

The rubble pile is enough proof to prove it was controlled demo.

please explain how the rubble pile is enough to proove a controlled demo.

then post some evidence that shows if the building did collapse due to damage that it would have hit other buildings. you have no clue what you are talking about. REAL STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS have explained many times that because the damage was in the middle, the building fell inwards. case closed, the path it took on the way down explains nothing regarding a controlled demo.

for you to suggest that if WTC7 fell due to severe structural damage (which it id) it would have 100% hit other buildings, is "insane rationale".





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[edit on 9-4-2008 by fastfingersfunk]

doubled thread.

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