Sleep paralysis or demonic assault

i used to get sleep paralysis alot in iraq maybe due to stress of combat or lack of sleep...but occasionally i would get it when i would lay down after work for even a short nap on a lunch break.....i always got it when i would lay in my bed so i went out and i bought a couch which i now sleep and up until last night i have never had something liek this happen to me..

In my dream i was sitting on the couch with some friends of mine i could see their mouths moving but i couldnt hear anything...and i feel like a huge hand grab my leg and drag me off the couch in my dream i get up and and get back on my couch and there is this pain on my leg which feels like something still has a tight grip on my leg...and i laid back on the couch kicking at what the source of the pressure and it felt solid....

Then i catch a a quick flash of something that looks like a face but i cant make out what it is i blinked 3 times and it was still there i turned to try and move but it had a grip on my arm and it began clawing at me with its other hand ...what happened next wierded me out i could feel myself tryin to move but i couldnt move and then for a moment i felt nothing then the same paralysing feeling overtook me again and whatever it was that was gripping my leg and clawing my back said in a really really vegengeful voice" you will pay for your feelings..." then i was able to move again after i was able to move again i checked myself for physical scars but there was nothin jus the feeling like i had been scratched





so now i try to think logically about what happened
1 maybe it was a dream
2 in iraq i was angry bitter person and in some occult societies they believe a demon is a personality gone awry and that you have 8 personalities and if one takes more time than the others it becomes the demon
3 maybe the anger is my demon and a new emotion has been introduced in the last few weeks that i am over looking

Sleep paralysis is my bet. If it was from anger, everyone would be fighting off demons on a 24/7 basis

reply to post by TyrantFlameViper



At what point (if any) did you awaken ?

Were you awake when you checked yourself for physical signs of attack ?

Demons? Think astral projectors capabilities. They induce all the kinds of dream related things.

Im sure it was just sleep paralysis as I have it happen to me a couple times a month. Its like a dream, then it comes real. Only its not real.

oh boy I have a doozzy story

A few years back I was sleeping in my room when a heard a sound at the entrance to my apartment. I was in a kinda hazy state I perceived my eyes where open but the room was dimly with little light.
Moments passed, what was at the door gained entry. As the intruder gradually came closer to the door way of my bed room my anxiety and fear heightened. When it arrived at the door way, it stood there for a few moments. I was unable to move of course and felt an over whelming sense of danger.
This shadowy entity than gradually came closer to me almost as if relishing my fear. I sense it right by my face, it spoke no #ting ." I will kill you !" At this point I felt as helpless as a child and started to whimper , "leave me alone". It than meticulous climbed onto my chest. I'm not much a religious type I consider my self an agnostic, I started to prey trying to remember our father. In my sleep sate I grab this shadow by the neck and throw it off me. I came too. I must note my arms where still under the covers , so in reality my arm did not move to grab the specter. After this I felt calm and relaxed. I paced the apartment for some time trying to comprehend the incident, than when back to bed.
Weeks later I decided to research my experience, I read the scientific explanations for S.P., but also read folk lore. Not sure if you heard of the old hag story ,but I had the classic encounter. Was it a thing of my mind or something else , I did live right by Toronto's biggest cemetery. There is more I could add regarding my research findings, but this post is already quite long.

[edit on 6-4-2008 by OpusMarkII]

[edit on 6-4-2008 by OpusMarkII]

Originally posted by Dock6
reply to post by TyrantFlameViper

 

At what point (if any) did you awaken ?

Were you awake when you checked yourself for physical signs of attack ?


It was wierd because it felt kinda like i was awake the whole time I jus remember being like oh # I really dont know what jus happened and again this weekend it happened again the same words and everything

[edit on 8/4/08 by TyrantFlameViper]

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Sleep paralysis is an interesting phenomenon, huh?

Yea I really don't like it.

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About 10 years ago I suffered from sleep paralysis. It always started with this deafening sound in my ears that quickly led onto total paralysis. I couldn't move even my eyes or scream out. The weird thing was I could always hear "normal stuff" going on around me like the bin men or people talking outside. It was totally teriffying the first few times it happened as I didn't know what it was. Then as it happened more and more I knew it didn't kill me so I just went with it, just let it pass. I never saw any entity but felt something there. Then it stopped for about 7 years but came back.

This time I thought right Im going to get control of this, I found that just as the noise started and I felt it coming on Id scream in my mind as loud as I could "NO" and after a few goes it started to work. The paralysis would stop. It has never come back.

I think with all these things we must realize WE are in control, WE are stronger then we can ever imagine. our inner spirit is our strength , our free will is one of our greatest gifts.

reply to post by Mr Green


Correlation does not equal causation. Just because you shouted "NO!" at it, and it went away, doesn't mean to say your shouting stopped it.

We are not in control of sleep paralysis - if we were, it wouldn't happen to anyone

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Why are you depressed dave420? You do realize this will become self fulfilling if you write it as a mood. You must try and be more positive. Thinking positive is the first step to becoming more positive, just an off topic thought. Sorry carry on.

Originally posted by dave420
reply to post by Mr Green

 

Correlation does not equal causation. Just because you shouted "NO!" at it, and it went away, doesn't mean to say your shouting stopped it.

We are not in control of sleep paralysis - if we were, it wouldn't happen to anyone

We are able to be in control of everything about us, everything we do is within ourselves to understand and control. YOU have free will and to have the confidence to use it is the first step. Its no good shouting NO to an entity if you don't believe what your saying 100%. We have within us a light, a spirit that many if not most entities respect. When they see it being used with conviction and confidence they will give you the respect you deserve and they will just leave you alone. They have plenty of other people who are less able to use their free will, these are easier targets so they just find someone else.

The other night I was dragged onto the astral plane by some entity that shouted at me " Now you will feel the full force of our power". They then proceeded to throw high energy bolts at me which was not pleasent, I felt it go through me with much force. This took me by suprise as it was not a sleep paralysis attack but the next night I was totally ready for them, they tryed it again but I used all the protective powers I know of and they left eventually.

[edit on 8-4-2008 by Mr Green]

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Now you're in the realm of the fairies :-P Believing your own experiences is not a great way to get to the bottom of what you've experienced. It is, though, an easy way to establish false beliefs, without any hope of ever rectifying the situation. You're clearly getting confused about the intricate chemical changes that happen naturally in our bodies, and without any evidence, you're attributing it to something you are familiar with, instead of researching actual, scientific phenomena you are not familiar with, which accurately explain what you're experiencing.

So, to sum up:

A scientist experiences what you did, learns about sleep-related phenomena, and chalks it up to any one of those

Someone who believes in astral planes and spirits experiences what you did, and chalks it up to those, as that's what they know.

I'm not being rude, I just think you're putting too much faith in your own perception, which if science has shown us anything, is so ridiculously flawed when removed from normality (and before you say anything, the way it gets confused is known to science, and is not the result of anything "supernatural", but simply down to the way our brains work).

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Thanks for your concern, but this is neither the time nor place to discuss something as personally damaging as anyone's specific depression. I do not for one second doubt your sincerity, or your altruistic motives, though, so please don't think I'm being rude.

I AM a scientist I know science can prove many things I do this every day, however we reach a point at which science becomes confussed, it becomes meaningless. Why is it when science can't explain something like say a black hole, it just says "oh well the laws of science don't apply here. The laws of physics break down in a black hole" or are they just saying that because they don't understand the blackhole yet? Thats right they don't understand the black hole, just like they don't understand other dimensions or realms.
In fact I was watching horizon last week, a very scientific programme no?, and they concluded that for the Universe to exist it MUST have at least 5 dimensions other wise we could not exist. Imagine it as if you lived in your kitchen, you never ever left it your whole life, this would be all you knew then one day someone opened your kitchen door and you looked around the door into your sitting room, this would appear to you as a whole new dimension . A dimension you never knew was there. This is very much how the Universe is. Take up meditation and you'll soon see, I did.

So there you go. Do not be so narrow minded think of what else there is. Yes alot of what we experience is in the dream state BUT alot of it is not.

Originally posted by dave420
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You're clearly getting confused about the intricate chemical changes that happen naturally in our bodies,

Intricate chemical changes.................. WHY do those chemical changes happen? what is so natural about SP? theres different forms of it we dont all get every detail like someone else.

As a past sleep paralysis experiencer, I know what its like, Ive had it with full blown visuals.. and I can tell the difference between basic dreams and far out visions.

It does my head in when 'some' scientists wana explain everything away with some cold rationalizing, long words about chemicals and brains etc.., it has no relevance at all to the experience.. If the chemical change didnt happen then the experience wouldnt happen.

Listen,..... in SP there is a high frequency sound that almost feels as if its going to shatter my ear drums, its NASTY. Can you tell me what naturally occurring chemical imbalance would cause that?

NO.

We dont need to know about the lack or overdose of certain chemicals and how much or less it was.... We need to know what CAUSED that change... and yknow what I put it down to? SUPER TOYS / COMPUTERS / FREQUENCIES... and whoever the hell is doing it I have no judgement. Ive had a positive experience with SP. . then it practically ended for years.

Gota cut this short and go bed..

[edit on 22-4-2008 by P-a-r-a-d-o-X-2]

Yes that sound what is it? Its so loud and deafening and it seems to come from within but I know of no chemical that can cause a deafening sound. I believe its the vibration of another dimension that we are not fully tunned into, thus it appears as a very loud noise to us. A good friend of mine once said once you understand dimensional astral projection the sound becomes a distant noise to you. Its just the background noise to the Universe and it always there.

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Ok I cant think straight for now so Im going to post some young lads video off youtube, I spoke to him last year and asked if he would mind he said its cool.
I read his youtube profile and note he is autistic and a gadget fan, he collects old cassette recorders and valve amps etc.. so he has some serious talent I believe he should be using.. maybe building things... he describes the noise (VIBRATION) exactly as I know it.

my sleep paralysis experience - youtube user-

Later I will share my own experiences, I have 3 mainly.


Peace

Does sleep paralysis affect only a small percentage ? Cos I don't think its ever happened to me. I used to sleepwalk when I was younger (urinating in closets/cupboards etc). I've also had a few dreams which freaked me out. One of them is hard to explain cos it doesn't sound scary but I had to get out of bed to think about the dream. For some reason i thought of Kurt Cobain all throughout the dream (even though there were no nirvana songs or anything relating to them/Cobain at all. I saw about 5 playing cards in a line floating in mid air (nothing else stuck out apart from the cards. One by one the cards flew towards my eyes and as they got really close I saw what suit they were. But when I noticed which suit they were, that was the scary part. I can't explain why I got scared at that but I did and had to get out of bed for a few minutes as I was sweating profusely. I've never had that dream since. I had the flu at the time so I put it down to delirium. Another dream I used to have was when I was much younger. I would be swimming in the middle of a large body of water like the sea or a lake etc. I could see small islands made of grass spread out, as I tried to grab these islands they would sink. And as I reached for another it would sink also. This would go on until I awoke covered in sweat.

Nowadays I have a fear of swimming in seas, rivers, lakes, etc. However I do not have a fear of playing cards or Kurt Cobain!