Chakra Meditation

reply to post by Drakiir

no arguments

Yea this is what I have been trying to avoid, OK I may not have the same beliefs but I never argued to the point where I went onto somebody's profile and posted inappropriate things while they were away from there computer. I just point out facts, facts I can back up again and again.

No arguments is what I want but please don't twist it on me, I will repeat "I have nothing personal against you, Mr Green, Darcon, Paul_Richards. Just TSOL, not so much HCR as it is what it is "use of the "heart chakra" I personally believe we should use all our chakras not just in meditation but also in our day to day tasks. Putting so much focus on just one chakra is unbalance in my eyes and many other peoples too. You say you use all your chakras but this is not the teaching of TSOL. Hence the disagreement, don't blame me though I didn't write the Glossary.

To me being grounded is so important as it's easy to drift away, TSOL does not teach this as well as many other things. What it does teach is to become another person an "Alter Ego" as pointed out by "Yes you got it" Not me!! So yes I have my right to disagree with TSOL and tell people what I experienced with them. I am not telling them what they should believe in, just pointing out things people may of missed, as TSOL can sort of brainwash you into false hope and bring so much confusion. So much it takes over, but hey don't take my word about that just ask any EX-TSOL member.

I don't know how to word that so you understand Drakiir, you still are my friend and I think you are a very talented guy "You were long before TSOL" so I really have nothing personal against you. You painted this picture of me as some manipulator, so much so my own friend MG isn't even talking to me that much anymore. MG has always known what I think of TSOL so nothing has changed that much. Since she rejoined she has drifted further and further away. At one point she told me "Paul said I should not speak with you, but I am" well she did continue for a little while after but it soon stopped, I miss having a good old chat with MG she was so happy back then, now it's like I am stepping on eggshells.

Once again this is not an argument I am just pointing out facts, as I always have been. Sometimes I go a little OTT I admit but all I am doing is trying to help, I am not the monster I have been painted out to be. I spend a lot of my time helping people, not just on ATS but in my day to day life. why? I feel it's what I am here for as I can connect to people in ways I cannot explain. I didn't ask for this, just as shakesbeer never asked to Lucid Dream, However it's a gift and I feel it's only right to share it to make others happy in this madness.

I love all you guys and I am not ashamed to say it, however I will continue to share my side of the story when it comes to TSOL. People can take that for what it is, they have free will.

Double Post

knew something would go wrong

reply to post by psycho81


Great post.

I was surprised to read that PR told MG to stop talking to you though.. He doesn't seem to be as nice as he wants everyone else to be.

reply to post by Kappo


Just being honest, just want to let people know I am not what I am being made out to be. The people close to me know who I am and know I will get along with anyone. They also know I will stand up for my friends, as friends are not there for just the good times. When bad times come I also stand by my friends, through thick and thin.

reply to post by psycho81


What? D: I wasn't being sarcastic :S.

reply to post by Kappo


hehe not in a nasty way, you know I am not a bad person I was more of a reply to Drakiir as he was the one who posted all the insults on my profile.

PS: Back in 1 hour

[edit on 6-10-2008 by psycho81]

Ms Green hasn't been sucked in by these looneys again? On the old thread she said that if it ever happened I should warn her like I did on the old thread.

Ms Green you are independent and beautiful - don't join a cult.

Originally posted by Kappo



Great post.

I was surprised to read that PR told MG to stop talking to you though.. He doesn't seem to be as nice as he wants everyone else to be.

I don't know how true this above statement is, but MG, if it is true that Paul told you to stop talking to Psycho, then surely alarm bells should have been ringing?

Psycho has always been there for you through the good times and the bad, you should never listen to anyone who tells you to turn your back on your friends.

I do not wish to interfere too much because it is none of my business, but i am concerned for you MG.

Stay strong, happy, and positive!

Love and light to you always.

reply to post by Eevee


I apparently was on the "do not talk" list right away after her return to TSOL. For some reason PR doesn't feel I'm good company

reply to post by Shakesbeer


I dunno if you know this but he told everyone that AP was bad unless you were going into 'the light' or whatever, can't remember exact details, so that might've been why.

reply to post by granny smith and eevee


Thank you both, you are very good and wonderful friends. Everyone on this thread is of good heart and I thank you all for being you. I class you all as very good friends and I love each of you very much.

I send out to you love and light from the bottom of my heart. I send it because I want to and expect nothing in return. That is the sign of a true friend, one who sends love but expects nothing in return. You all send such love from your hearts and expect nothing in return. True friendship founded in the heart is of such beauty and purity. Nothing can ever break or change this.

True friendship formed from unconditional love sent from the heart chakra is a very strong friendship and no one alive has the power to break this. I am sorry if it seemed I was not speaking to anyone.


You are right shakesbeer we can not blaim Mercury or any other planet for our life, free will is given to us and we need to realize this.



[edit on 7-10-2008 by Mr Green]

Hi MG

Glad you liked the u2u I sent, it was something I had to do. While I'm out driving on my job I do a lot of thinking, don't worry I got my eyes on the road Anyway the other day I just started thinking about the situation and how much things had changed. Over what though? Nothing but words, opinions, views.

This made me realize our friendship means more than any of the above. So while I was out doing my delivery's I stopped off at a post office, bought a journal type thing got back to my van and and put pen to paper. I wanted to explain to you that I really do care about you as a true soul mate. If this sounds like I am flirting on ATS people "I want nothing other than a great friendship to last"

I know how tough life can be, searching for answers can sometimes bring more confusion. I was wrong to add to that confusion so "Big Sorry xxx" follow your heart "You are the answers"

Lots of love to a very good friend

I would also like to thank the great people in this thread, some of the advice in here is very inspiring.

Granny Nice to see you around man, I will never forget the help you gave me back in the ascension thread.

reply to post by Eevee


Thank you so much for the support I really appreciate your words. From what I hear you have been great help to my good friend MG and I thank you personally for that.


Thank you

[edit on 7-10-2008 by psycho81]

Originally posted by headlightone

Your latest battle I see....which one are you? wheel.blogs.com...

[edit on 3-10-2008 by headlightone]

Hello headlightone! I would personally like to thank you for cheering us all up with your image of shakesbeer and his amazing chakra battle. He whont mind he knows its all just good fun. Youve made me and a lot of others smile with this light hearted look at astral projection and the use of chakra energy.

Im not doing meditation for a while as its all gone a little crazy but in a way your pic puts it all into perspective for me!! (Are those hat boxes in the background....? Do chakra supermen use hat boxes...?)

Thanks again its really funny.

reply to post by Mr Green


I think headlightone is genuinely a bit condescending, if not, he might want to change up his delivery a bit as it's hard to tell via written word sometimes. Either way I really don't give a crap what people say about me, I'm just doing my thing & what I feel is right. If anyone wants to tag a long for the ride, then by all means...the more the merrier. I'm not here to dominate or trick anyone.

Either way "astral attacks" or battles are real enough. Why do you think so many people are afraid to sleep because of "nightmares"? If they're "just dreams" then why do they freak everyone out? Why do so many deny the messages within them, even on a psychological level?

I love humor, and I definitely believe no one should take themselves too seriously. But yeah, attacks and even "battles" can be quiet real enough...

Either way I'm still the blue guy and MG is the Red. Headlightone hasn't got his Oneironaut patch yet

reply to post by Shakesbeer


Yes the pic made me laugh too, not as much as your reply though shakes lol anyway hope everyone is happy again

To get the thread back on topic:
Here's a painting I just finished that is a conceptualization of chakra application...



This is a conceptualization of consciousness in the sense of emotional energetic manifestation of thought through the chakras. In essence, all of our chakras are a representations of the dynamic emotional & intellectual energies that our consciousness reacts & and manipulates.

In a way the chakras are a receptor and transmitter in a sense, just as our eyes receive information and give information outwardly as well. So in a sense, the chakras together create one vessel of consciousness that perceives and reacts to it's environment. All of them together create a window of perspective. A unique conscious perspective can also fall into the category of a soul, and the "eyes are a window to the soul" some would say...

Projecting yourself means projecting your astral or etheric body, which is comprised of those same energies. So that collaborative point of consciousness is what "travels" even when you are projected through someone else's memory of you in their mind or "astrally" traveling somewhere. Like the saying goes, where ever you go, there you are...watching you.

Here's a link to a larger version too: HERE

Found this website www.deadlysins.com...

The Seven Deadly Sins

Pride is excessive belief in one's own abilities, that interferes with the individual's recognition of the grace of God. It has been called the sin from which all others arise. Pride is also known as Vanity.

Envy is the desire for others' traits, status, abilities, or situation.

Gluttony is an inordinate desire to consume more than that which one requires.

Lust is an inordinate craving for the pleasures of the body.

Anger is manifested in the individual who spurns love and opts instead for fury. It is also known as Wrath.

Greed is the desire for material wealth or gain, ignoring the realm of the spiritual. It is also called Avarice or Covetousness.

Sloth is the avoidance of physical or spiritual work.

The Seven Contrary Virtues

humility, kindness, abstinence, chastity, patience, liberality, diligence

The Contrary Virtues were derived from the Psychomachia ("Battle for the Soul"), an epic poem written by Prudentius (c. 410). Practicing these virtues is alledged to protect one against temptation toward the Seven Deadly Sins: humility against pride, kindness against envy, abstinence against gluttony, chastity against lust, patience against anger, liberality against greed, and diligence against sloth.

The Seven Heavenly Virtues:

faith, hope, charity, fortitude, justice, temperance, prudence

The relation to 7 would also be symbolic to the the main 7 Chakra System and how the E-motion's etc correlates.

(side note, also i think it is said the body has MANY sub chakras, besides the main 7?)

[edit on 9-10-2008 by Jn]

reply to post by Jn


Lol, nothing to do with anything but I just thought it was funny that all the emotions in the first quote are names of characters in a certain anime .

reply to post by Jn


Hey good timing, this is something I was thinking about the other day. I will make a post in a few hours, have to nip out for a little while. Glad you brought this up though Jn