[HOAX]How Deep Does the Rabbit Hole GO===> Part 1[HOAX]

April fools day is nearly here and I fear, a few threads have been placed here prematurely, look at the join dates and make your own conclusions. I even think that the NASA thread was included in this. I have an open mind, but I also am sceptical of many things that people post, they prove to be either unsubstantial or pulp. I also believe that a few people have started to post here with a number of different tags. I have a few in mind, but perhaps others may verify this, where are the Mods when you need them?

Someone earlier stated something about giving people a deadline to post their "proof".

How about having "those" people stay the hell out of here until they have facts and proof to provide with these stories.

Or just stay away period.

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Would it not be easier if everyone just read the thread in its entirety before they started posting? The guy was proven to be a reincarnation of a previously banned member who was here exacting whatever revenge he thought he was exacting.

People who can smell BS are a good assett to have. It keeps you from walking too far down a wrong path. It is a mindframe thing. If you start thinking in a way that wrong information spurs in you, then you have truly done real damage to your intellect. It is ok to meander occassionally. BUt you must be careful so as to not create a thought process or belief system that cause you to have to take steps to repair your mentality.

Besides, i posted links for you to read that will give you some really, really good information on the real science behind what this guy was talking about. The difference is i got mine through research (much of it other peoples research that I hvae been studying as well). All of it is here on ATS already. Start there, and when someone really does come along with real information, you will be better informed and prepared to deal with them and said information.

Wow you guys are great at spotting hoaxes.

Personally, I couldn't spot the difference between this guys thread and, say, some of the stuff John Lear used to say.

Wow you're darn good.

Edit for darn :initially got too carried away, maybe.

[edit on 30-3-2008 by granny smith]

i dont understand why people scream and cry for evidence all the time... sure evidence would be great id love to see some.. but honestly what are the chances of someone being so deep into some millitary or high tech science experiments actually walking out with evidence good enough to change the minds of millions of people? seriously think about it... wether your the highest in command or top scientist in your experiment. everything is being watched everywhere you all know this... imagine places like hes talking about.

theres so many ppl who come out saying alot of stuff with practicly no evidence sometimes some come out with something so small or so low in quality but yet people come around and believe them. why dont we all just stop n listen to see what people actually have to say and then you can choose for urself wether its real or not, be open minded and after all is said and done then you try to decide if its true or not.. or ask a few more questions and try to find out more about it.

your always going to run into outrageous stories ofcourse, especially on here but throwing away everything you hear because they dont have a pic to prove it.. is rediculous. Everytime people capture something people say oh how come you had a camera on you at the time that seems a bit fishy... then cry when there no pics at all to prove it... just listen to the storys n see if things add up together with others etc. one day someone will come here telling us everything they know truthfully and risk there own lives and who knows maybe even die in the process. you will all laugh at him n scream haoxer because he could not bring up any evidence at the short time he spent online. either way im not saying believe everything just don't try n crucify ppl for speaking.. listen to there story if you don't believe it then just move on.. i know you are all sick of haoxers as well as i em but i do know not everyone probably no one in these highest chains of command can come out with good enough evidence to prove there stories beyond a doubt. i would have liked to atleast have heard the rest of his story.


sorry about the crappy typing and such but you get the idea evidence is not always there for us to hold so dearly to our hearts especially without risking there own lives and families in the process.

How do you guys know it's a hoax? Maybe Admin are denying the truth. Maybe the blog is real and its being covered up.

Originally posted by Reality..
what are the chances of someone being so deep into some millitary or high tech science experiments actually walking out with evidence good enough to change the minds of millions of people? seriously think about it... wether your the highest in command or top scientist in your experiment. everything is being watched everywhere you all know this... imagine places like hes talking about.

This is exactly why these people get shot down! They expect and cry for people to believe them with the evidence to be presented in due time only to string people along for a 6 month ride in a thread of name calling only to fade away.

When threads like this change, then maybe they will get a different response. Most of the people on ATS that have been around for a while have seen this before and could probably finish the fictional stories for them.

I for one am a single father of 2 kids. I'm busy usually all the time.

When I read,I have time for facts. Not fiction. That's what movies are for.

I take it, that the rabbit hole didnt go to deep?

Originally posted by Qwenn
April fools day is nearly here and I fear, a few threads have been placed here prematurely, look at the join dates and make your own conclusions. I even think that the NASA thread was included in this. I have an open mind, but I also am sceptical of many things that people post, they prove to be either unsubstantial or pulp. I also believe that a few people have started to post here with a number of different tags. I have a few in mind, but perhaps others may verify this, where are the Mods when you need them?

haha yeah im pretty sure since april fools day is coming soon we are going to see a mass thread attack of new stuff hapenning all around eh can only help its atleast entertaining.

Folks, April 1 or not, is not relevant.

The OP has been found out, and has been banned. 'Nuf said about that.

If this thread attracts a real 'whistleblower', then it will have served a greater purpose...and there is a thread already, started by NGC2736, to address this very issue.

Hoping someone will read this, and find the other thread, and take heed....it is possible to post, and be safe....


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[edit on 31-3-2008 by weedwhacker]

Originally posted by weedwhacker
Folks, April 1 or not, is not relevant.

The OP has been found out, and has been banned. 'Nuf said about that.

If this thread attracts a real 'whistleblower', then it will have served a greater purpose...and there is a thread already, started by NGC7236, to address this very issue.

Hoping someone will read this, and find the other thread, and take heed....it is possible to post, and be safe....

Awwwww...c'mon WW, aren't you going to post a link to this other thread for us? Geez. LOL

Here you go:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Come on over and add your comments and ideas. We're seeking solutions.

Originally posted by NGC2736
reply to post by elendal

 

But I will not accept fantasy. That would be lying to myself, a low and unworthy trait in man or beast. I have only contempt for those who would use the gullibility of the world to stroke their own egos or to profit with lies, and I refuse to accept the pandering of fiction as virgin truths.

That is one extremely good description of the whole UFO community. My explanation follows...

Some may see me as being too hard line in these matters, but for a half century I have seen whatever pieces of the puzzle really do exist buried by the blizzard of BS that is the stock in trade of the charlatans. From the days of Project Bluebook to "the Drones", reality has been overshadowed by lies and purposeful misdirection.

Excellent description as well.

There's an old saying, "If you can't blind 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with BS". And the baffling is an ongoing dance practiced by far too many.

And this is the main point.

Unfortunately, when reality is stranger than fiction, there are two main methods to manipulate people:

1. Deny everything, aka "aliens don't exist".

Ah... the good old days of denial, lasting from WW2 up to the beginning of the '90s.

Everything was simple back then (not that I'm that old to know first hand, but I can read ). When some strange stuff would happen, the powers-that-would-be (as I like to call them, because they won't ), would simply say "Nothing strange is happening, move along. It's just a meteorite, or swamp gas, or star, or Venus (my favourite )..." You could rely on their consistency back then. You trully could! But, then everything changed, almost over night. I wonder why...

2. Make up stories so incredible, that when people are finally faced with the truth of Reality they will just take it for another incredible BS story. From what I could gather, this method was being implemented very early on, with some popular "new age" books and beliefs in the '70s, but never on such a gand scale as it is today.

Hmm... Maybe the powers-that-would-be (which instantly reminds me of The Man Who Would Be King movie; great parallels there), thought prior to '90s that they were dealing with simple physical aliens - "They come from another planet, they want something, we can develop our science/weapons enough to fight them off...", and when they finally got some hold of the science... BANG! They found themselves literally "behind the mirror".

What some occult traditions speak of are just distorted beliefs that were once known as altogether different Facts of Reality. They got distorted over time, and ended up being just a shadow of their factual couterparts. Like the (presumable) Illuminati tradition (which is not theirs in the first place, they just took it from some older teachings) of choosing between "vampire and warewolf way".

This does sound like complete BS doesn't it?

That's only because people think of physical vampires and warewolves. There's nothing physical about it. What those ways refer to is development of "energy body", or "astral body", or whatever one wishes to call it. While vampires mostly focus on stealth and draining energy from others, warewolves focus on brute force. Unfortunately for warevolves, when they encounter more powerful entity they tend to rush head on... and lose their heads altogether...

After they lose their head, or their "energy body", or their "soul" (if they had any to begin with), they quickly "fade out of physicality" (either by coma, or by suicude).

Let me quote someone who knew what he was talking about (Lewis Carrol):

'You know,' he added very gravely, 'it's one of the most serious things that can possibly happen to one in a battle -- to get one's head cut off.'

My 2c.

Originally posted by messiah4hire
It's odd when you get one of those "feelings" but I think that's the scenario that is playing out here and that someone somewhere is trying to inform others in the know that either something is happening or about to happen...

Do I know anything? No, absolutely not, but I was oddly inspired to offer such a possibility.

And some would call your feeling a True Providence. I kid you not.

But, to quote Matrix...

Oracle: I'd ask you to sit down, but, you're not going to anyway. And don't worry about the vase.
Neo: What vase?
[Neo turns to look for a vase, and as he does, he knocks over a vase of flowers, which shatters on the floor.]
Oracle: That vase.
Neo: I'm sorry--
Oracle: I said don't worry about it. I'll get one of my kids to fix it.
Neo: How did you know?
Oracle: Ohh, what's really going to bake your noodle later on is, would you still have broken it if I hadn't said anything?

(www.neoandtrinity.net...)

... what is "really going to bake your noodle" is this - without OP's posts NGC2736 wouldn't have posted his "hogwash" remarks, and without NGC2736's remarks I couldn't have posted what I knew on the subject, and so on and so on... the list certainly goes well beyond me, but I have no direct knowledge of that.

Does that show that we are all part of the same "consipracy"?

Maybe, maybe not. If we are, then we are certainly not aware of it. And the purpose of this "conspiracy" is to teach and liberate, instead of to control and abuse. It would still be a conspiracy mind you, only with a completely different goal from other conspiracies (the secret societies/bankers/elite ones).

What this does show is that sincere group effort leads to unexpected results - unraveling the truth (under the conditions on this planet, with so tight control over people, I'd say unraveling the truth is definitely an unexpected result ).

How does that saying go...?

"You can fool some people sometime, but you can't fool all the people all the time."

Even as a hoax, this thread has some very valuable lessons to teach.

[edit on 31-3-2008 by elendal]

Originally posted by SECRET_007
Admin message:

The post(s) you are about to read is the fruit of a person who needs attention desperately and has the low mental bandwidth necessary to attempt to hoax the ATS Community. Read it as an example of what a classic HOAX looks like or for pure entertainment.

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Personally, I reject your (Secret Agent 007) attempt to undermine this person having their say. Fruitloop or not, there are many well educated and respected grown men and women with more life experience than a potted plant who also say 1) There are UFOs, 2)Their are ETs and 3) Many appear to have some method of appearing and disappearing through what some term a "Portal". Call it what you like, Wormhole, Diminsional Doorway or whatever you like, these too are real.

I suspect many don't believed it unless its on CNN News, so I expect many are a lot less doubtful after watching Larry King last night. I can't get last night's program yet but here is a YouTube of the previous L K programs on this subject:
www.youtube.com...

There is also today's posting of the
Bizarre Alien Autopsy WARNING Graphic Content
www.youtube.com...
and
Russian Officials get serious on U.F.O.s part 1
www.youtube.com...

In recent weeks I have gotten past any great need to convince anyone of anything, as me and mine are sitting very well, whatever comes down. I, like others, have done my part at trying to warn and educated those who apparently the truth is more than they can or want to deal with. It is okay; I understand how many are stuck, dependent and vulnerable, and how if any of this "Craziness" is true, they will be trapped like many. Well...okay, it's not my fault; you were warned.

As for attempts in this forum to develop some form of censorship (they don't use that word) or means to prevent people having their say *Crazy or No", I have noted the threads and am not concerned about this either, as this is not the world, the authority..it's a website housed in some servers.

Good luck S/

Originally posted by calibanvov
I take it, that the rabbit hole didnt go to deep?

So short - and yet so elegant. Kudos calibanov!

reply to post by InfaRedMan


Oh no, make no mistake.

The saga continues.

reply to post by redmage

Not any more, it has all been wiped, what a waste of typing. I was only half way through reading it and I had to go out, then poof, up in a puff of smoke. I wish I had printed it out, it must have taken ages to make up and would have been amusing. I got as far as Huge Dragons living underground though! A lesson to be learned by all, Don`t mess with ATS.

Originally posted by Qwenn
Not any more, it has all been wiped, what a waste of typing. I was only half way through reading it and I had to go out, then poof, up in a puff of smoke. I wish I had printed it out, it must have taken ages to make up and would have been amusing. I got as far as Huge Dragons living underground though! A lesson to be learned by all, Don`t mess with ATS.

Yeah to bad.
Perhaps they could have moved it to R.A.T.s or to a creative story telling forum, or added to here. (Unless its repeated, the story in here, havent read the whole thread.)

So I suppose this was the same guy...I looked through this thread and saw where Springer asked if this should be voted as a hoax...but I missed the part where people said he made it all up. Was he just being sarcastic to pressure from people saying he was fake?

Anyway...maybe they will add his stories to this thread -

Peace

dAlen

reply to post by dAlen


No, it was about a whole page long and gave explanations on probably 60 or so subjects, some covered in great detail, however they were starting to get more outlandish as it went on. I still would have liked to have read it all, I had decided not to post on it untill I had read it all, but that never happened. I do think that it should have been moved to this thread, as the Mods said that they had left this whole thread up here so that we could learn a lesson from it, we would have at least had more to go on.